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Old 10-29-2008, 04:38 PM   #1
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Heart MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

I'd like to say THANK YOU to everyone who has taken the time to write me. I'm absolutely flattered by the love, attention, kind words and support that I've been showed.

Of course there will always be haters and I have been appalled at some of the nasty messages I've received from complete strangers who I've never had a conversation with a day in my life. They somehow feel it is their place to judge me based on four episodes of POKER television. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I truly am sorry if watching me on TV rubbed anyone the wrong way. Unfortunately it's almost impossible to weed through the editing and TV screen and see the real time and real scenarios in which my words and actions occurred. Furthermore, if you don't personally know me and you may not understand my joking and sarcastic personality at the tables where I'm just having some fun and harmless banter with the boys. Before you judge remember that you saw 7 EDITED TV hours of a tournament that I played for an entire week and close to 100 hours of time. I don't think there is a single person who I played with live who would walk away and say anything negative about how I personally treated them at the tables or that I didn't show respect to my fellow table mates.

It's obvious that by being a woman in a male dominated field/sport I will come under ten times more scrutiny than the man sitting next to me. There were so many comments and behaviors by other players that I observed in watching the WSOP coverage that make some of my comments which have received harsh criticism... laughable. It's unfair that I am being held to a different standard than my fellow male players but HEY, life isn't fair, poker sure as hell is not and as the minority in this industry I just have to accept that as status quo.

At the end of the day poker is a competition. Everyone is trying to win. There are bound to be squabbles in the midst of the game but that doesn't mean that off the felt that player isn't a kind and good person. Kobe Bryant is sure to foul someone while running the court trying to make and block a basket. Wayne Gretzky has his share of penalties and body checks. Every word and action is heightened in the midst of an intense competition where the goal is to BEAT the other player. Emotions run high and frustration can inevitably lead to arguments and moments of losing your 'cool' and sanity. Not to mention the huge psychological factor that is present specifically in the game of poker, which induces words and actions that someone would never implement in their daily life.

No, I am not a dainty little girl who is prim and proper. I never have been. I was never the kid who wanted to go play with Barbies with the other girls, you'd more readily find me racing with and playing sports with the boys. I love competition! You won't find me at a poker table batting my lashes and blowing kisses to the other players. I am a young woman with a little spice and attitude who isn't afraid to jump into a male dominated game that involves aggression, psychology, and mathematics (These very charictaristics of the game aren't usually synonomous with being 'lady-like' or a woman) and battle it out with the boys.

I had an amazing time in the WSOP Main Event. I hope that every poker player gets to experience a high in their career like THAT! I have nothing but respect and good will toward each player that I played with and got to know during that week. I feel a special bond with the players who also made it deep in the Main Event and am excited to see them around, give them a hug and hear how their game is going. I know I can't make everyone happy. Not everyone will understand my GAME and if you make a habit of judging people based on what you hear in the media and see on TV then I guess you'll spend most of your life making bad reads. I can assure you that if we ever meet in person I WILL give you the time of day, I WILL be more than happy to talk with you, I WILL bond with you over our love and frustration with the game of poker, I WILL treat you with kindness and respect... and yes, maybe even harass you a little for playing 6-7 to a raise... even if it was SUITED!!
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:40 PM   #2
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:40 PM   #3
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

lol, why post this?


at first i thought this was the overweight black lady that also luckboxed deep one year.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:42 PM   #4
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

well done in the WSOP. not sure what you hope to gain from your post but my advice is to not read any replies (98% will be negative). again, congrats on your finish.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:44 PM   #5
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

tl;dr

nice run in the main event

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:44 PM   #6
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

PICS OR YOU NEVER HAPPENED TBH

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:46 PM   #7
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

You acted like a total ***** to Craig and everyone else and he called you out on it. What do you have to say about you bitching about the clock on crucial hands? It WAS rude.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:47 PM   #8
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

Congrats on a great Main Event. Hopefully, while you were learning alot about tournament poker, you were also learning a bit about personal conduct at the tables. In particular, it's great if this experience taught you to try and be more respectful of other players. Hassling other players for the time they take to make their decisions is disrespectful, and calling a time clock on someone near the end of a tournament, playing for nearly his entire stack and with millions of dollars at stake, and in a hand for which you've already folded, is disrespectful. And make no mistake about it, calling it as such is going very easy on you.

Once again, congrats on the big cash.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:47 PM   #9
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

Well said Tiff! To all the people that are haters on Tiff, trust me if you met and got to know her, you would know that she is an amazing person. She is kind to everyone that she interacts with, takes people at face value and is truly one of the nicest people I know (in and out of poker). She has always had my complete support and love.

Lara
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:47 PM   #10
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

How do you call a clock on someone with 2 tables left in the main event? If its 10 minutes let him take it.

I also lol'ed on the last broadcast when below your name it said "Professional Poker Player".


That being said I would gladly take some heat for your payday. Congrats.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:48 PM   #11
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Why do you represent a site that is known for cheating players out of obscene amounts of money?
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:50 PM   #12
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

you act all cocky and arrogant with your stupid comments like "men are scaredy cats".

seriously give me a break. 99% of the men there would bust you raw at the table. you can't hang with the big boys so you put up a false front.

would you be giving jesus ferguson the same hard time for deliberate methodical play?


and the association with UB is awful.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:50 PM   #13
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

so your thoughts are...

--poker is a game in which you play to win
--I am a nice person, but I play poker to win
--ESPN broadcasts do not represent a person accurately
--Hello, my name is Tiffany.

I mean, I have nothing against you, and congratulations on your success, but I don't see what you're trying to achieve with this post other than baiting your less-than-mature critics. Good luck.

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:50 PM   #14
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

I've played you on UB, you are really good. Play more please!
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:50 PM   #15
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

Tiffany the way the showed you on the coverage you acted like the biggest douche ever and you play was not great at all i think all of the poker community wants you to keep playing in these big events... calling the clock on someone that deep in the main event is ridiculous when you have 50BB not even short as you claim ... and chirpping marquis for playing slow taking like 15 seconds to make a decision sorry that he likes to think through his plays and not just ship it with AJ... i guess thats why they call them donkaments tho
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:51 PM   #16
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!

well this is going to go well.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:52 PM   #17
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Brandi 2.0?

This will end well.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:53 PM   #18
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You acted like a total ***** to Craig and everyone else and he called you out on it. What do you have to say about you bitching about the clock on crucial hands? It WAS rude.
First, the Craig things was terribly edited... I'm pretty sure he'll even tell you that we were having a fun banter back and forth where I was picking on him (in good nature) about how long he took to make decisions every hand. He was laughing about it!

And I'm glad someone brought up the clock things. I'm shocked that none of you have EVER under ANY circumstance called the clock in the middle of a poker game...ever? Trust me, I don't make a habit of calling the clock on people. I think in four years of playing tournaments that was probably the second or third time I've ever done that.

Obviously ESPN doesn't show or tell you how long Paul Snead was taking to make a decision (it was a looooooooooonge time) and if it appeared that he was anywhere close to making a decision I would have stayed silent.... but you weren't there, I was and he wasn't anywhere close to a decision. I had been at the table with him for awhile and this was his typical process to make a bit of a fuss over his hands and his calls. He'd get up, pace around, talk to the audience and his friends on the rail. People forget that we're all on camera, we're at a featured table, player's games change soooooooo much under those settings and it becomes more 'acting' and soaking up your five minutes of fame than actually playing a game of poker. I can guarantee you that if the TV cameras weren't rolling it wouldn't have taken him half as long to make a decision there. So yes, I chose to hold him accountable to the game of POKER even if it made me look less classy than humor another 'Hollywood-er'.

Please don't forget that the two of us were playing the same game for the same stakes. He was taking his time to decide and I was practicing my right (within the rules people) to ask for the clock since I was getting short stacked and the blinds were increasing... MY tournament life was at stake just as much as his.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:56 PM   #19
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First, the Craig things was terribly edited... I'm pretty sure he'll even tell you that we were having a fun banter back and forth where I was picking on him (in good nature) about how long he took to make decisions every hand. He was laughing about it!

And I'm glad someone brought up the clock things. I'm shocked that none of you have EVER under ANY circumstance called the clock in the middle of a poker game...ever? Trust me, I don't make a habit of calling the clock on people. I think in four years of playing tournaments that was probably the second or third time I've ever done that.

Obviously ESPN doesn't show or tell you how long Paul Snead was taking to make a decision (it was a looooooooooonge time) and if it appeared that he was anywhere close to making a decision I would have stayed silent.... but you weren't there, I was and he wasn't anywhere close to a decision. I had been at the table with him for awhile and this was his typical process to make a bit of a fuss over his hands and his calls. He'd get up, pace around, talk to the audience and his friends on the rail. People forget that we're all on camera, we're at a featured table, player's games change soooooooo much under those settings and it becomes more 'acting' and soaking up your five minutes of fame than actually playing a game of poker. I can guarantee you that if the TV cameras weren't rolling it wouldn't have taken him half as long to make a decision there. So yes, I chose to hold him accountable to the game of POKER even if it made me look less classy than humor another 'Hollywood-er'.

Please don't forget that the two of us were playing the same game for the same stakes. He was taking his time to decide and I was practicing my right (within the rules people) to ask for the clock since I was getting short stacked and the blinds were increasing... MY tournament life was at stake just as much as his.
Yeah. This is all well and good after the fact, but you were extremely disrespectful and unbelievably rude while we were playing in just about every situation you could be. I feel like those 7 edited episodes accurately depicted your behavior during the tournament, and you can say it was "your table face" or whatever, but your calling the clock during the Paul Snead and Scott Montgomery hand in what is probably the most stressful situation the man has ever been just boggles my mind. Also this is coming from somebody who is judging you entirely on his personal experience with you, not from the any media-skewed perspective.

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:57 PM   #20
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If what Norman said was true and you had 50 BBs at that time, you weren't shortstacked
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:57 PM   #21
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[QUOTE=tiffanymichelle;6853652]
And I'm glad someone brought up the clock things. I'm shocked that none of you have EVER under ANY circumstance called the clock in the middle of a poker game...ever? Trust me, I don't make a habit of calling the clock on second or third time I've ever done that. people. I think in four years of playing tournaments that was probably the



Please don't forget that the two of us were playing the same game for the same stakes. He was taking his time to decide and I was practicing my right (within the rules people) to ask for the clock since I was getting short stacked and the blinds were increasing... MY tournament life was at stake just as much as his.[QUOTE]

Firstly, yes I have called a clock. It was NOT near the end of the biggest tournament in the world. You had 50 big blinds and that is NOT "short." Grow up. Secondly, no, your tournament life was not at stake just as much as his was. If I ever am at your table, I will make a point to clock you. You had a chance to enrich poker as a product for all of us, and you failed horribly. Thanks.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:58 PM   #23
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I don't think there is a single person who I played with live who would walk away and say anything negative about how I personally treated them at the tables or that I didn't show respect to my fellow table mates.
I know first hand that one of the people who played with you (he usually wears a NY Jets jersey) called you a word that rhymes with "punt" due to your disrespectful actions at the table.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:59 PM   #24
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I wish you had been a better representative for women poker players.

Congratulations on your success. I hope you learn something from it.

P.S. The UB affiliation is laughable. I don't care what they promised you; they have no integrity and now neither do you.
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Yeah. This is all well and good after the fact, but you were extremely disrespectful and unbelievably rude while we were playing in just about every situation you could be. I feel like those 7 edited episodes accurately depicted your behavior during the tournament, and you can say it was "your table face" or whatever, but your calling the clock during the Paul Snead and Scott Montgomery hand in what is probably the most stressful situation the man has ever been just boggles my mind. Also this is coming from somebody who is judging you entirely on his personal experience with you, not from the any media-skewed perspective.
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