irockhoes for president of the world

I have a better solution to the no fun for fish problem than anything mentioned in this thread.

1. Make all games ante games.
2. 20bb MAX buyin.
3. 24 hour rathole time.

Hey, I'd be willing to organize a prop-bet based on this. Come up with terms etc. etc. Also I'd be willing to entertain a prop bet of you making money playing short at 25/50, pending terms.

Well obviously the reaction was as expected from the 2+2 crowd. I love you guys too

I guess I just wonder if this post were written by poster xyz, and not by me, what you guys would be saying. I thought about just creating an account to post this under, but decided not to. Because in reality I was looking to see what people thought about this and in the event people didn't like the short stackers, maybe something could be done.

But as is typical of every single thread involving me, the vocal minority of idiots who hate me and perpetuate the lies about me wind up ruining the thread. It certainly is not surprising as every single thread becomes that way on this website. But it will be to everyone's loss if shortstacking is perpetuated.

This site is like foxnews and I'm Obama...lol. You guys should work for them. You have the strategy nailed. Just lie, lie, and lie again. If you do it enough, it must be true! Throw out random hateful catch words and toss in some ******ed analogies for good measure. You guys really have it down. Congrats!

If u aint part of the solution ure part of the problem

grow a pair and start 50bb tbls.

Don't flatter yourself, you are nothing like your hero Obama. For one thing he is the President and you are a guy that pees in a cup so you don't have to get off your computer. The other is that he would be in favor of shortstacking because it levels the playing field and helps redistribute the wealth.

call me stupid, but what is it that short stackers do that ruins poker so much?

can't you wait for AA or some other good pair and shove back?

Mr. Leatherass I don't know why there is so much hate for you. I heard an interview with you on pokerroad and you seemed like a good guy. But I have to say you should not try to pretend as though you are advocating for the rec players when you are only advocating for yourself.

I guess it depends on how you define rec player but I would think most of them don't understand shortstack advantage enough to be really put off by it. Like most players I am no fan of shortstackers but in truth I can't justify changing the rules of a game to suit a particular style of play. And when it comes to no limit poker I would think that the rec players would fare better in a shorter stacked game which makes it all the better for everyone in the long run. Ask yourself if you have a valid beef or if you are just being greedy and shortsighted.

Kalypso is interesting on PS, 7 players a 1/2 all below 65 dollars

Doesnt seem like a minority to me.

It isnt a lie you have shortstacked before. Its a verifiable fact, unlike many of the outrageous claims you have made in this thread.

Name calling? Really?

ok here you go

This isnt actually interesting at all.

Isn't this essentially 'they're not good enough to fold', which is a subset of 'they won't respect my raises'?

So, play where they'll respect your raises!

shortstackers dont ruin the game, they 'ruin' the game by hurting the regs winrates.

If anything I bet fish prefer them... they can gambooool with them and are less intimidated/scared because they dont have huge stacks.

If you want to argue and hate sser's because they hurt your bottom line, fine. But i really doubt they affect the fish at all.

He was never arguing this.

They would say the same things about your post. Most people agree with the overall jist of your OP and even say so.

It becomes a leatherass free for all because you put yourself out there and do the dumbest **** ever like

a) complain about this stuff when you still shortstack to this day (lol hypocrite)
b) proactively make whiny threads about no 50bb games running when you could easily be proactively starting a new 50bb table (lol hypocrite)
c) keep alluding to your world class game that nobody else understands (lol delusional) and
d) imply that anyone who has made less money than you at poker can't have an opinion worth more than yours on any poker matter. Yaaa nice choice to single out irock on that one. Dude sucks. LOL douchebag.

Just because you don't like a rule doesn't mean you can't take advantage of it. I mostly play hu but that doesn't mean I think hu tables are good for the games.

You can still put me in the hating "minority" camp though, leatherass comes across as the biggest tool ever with every post he makes on these forums.

"As much as I can't stand George Bush, I'm not going to pick on him when he makes a good point." leatherass


When did George Bush ever make a good point? Most confusing part of this thread.

This is a pretty absurd statement. You used to shortstack regularly. You still do occasionally.



Read ZeeJustin's post, he said what everyone is thinking, but he said it much more clearly and politely.

Who here is lying? You say stuff that is stupid and hypocritical, people call you out on it, and you call them liars.

LA - I very much believe you bring much of this upon yourself with some of your comments. It isn't lying to point out that you too have played with less than a full buy-in for example. And if you can't understand why the bit about, "I make more money than you" and some of your other defenses brings about a negative reaction then I'm not sure what to say. It's pretty obvious to me what the reaction to your defenses are going to be before I've even read the first reply.

Your original points about the SS stuff, etc I think would be accepted better and agreed upon by more if you admitted that you too do occasionally play with a shorter stack for example.

I considered your idea that the shortstackers prevent the rec players from sitting at the tables and I disagreed with it. Obviously I don't really care who would have that opinion. I would still disagree with it.

Fish don't care about short stacks.

Fish don't care about LA type game selectors.

It's sad that University Of Oregon will only hire left wing professors.

the funny part about all this is that LA's OP is pretty accurate and most of us agree w/ it. if he wasnt such a self absorbed, hypocritical, douchebag...everyone might be more focused on it and take him a bit more seriously.

the even funnier part is that LA doesnt see these traits in himself when the evidence is right there in front of him. i mean he made a $1m golf/poker challenge set in a way that it would be insanely +ev for him and that nearly 100% of ppl wouldnt accept it. he knew this when he offered it but it made him feel good about himself to offer it and sit back and watch no one step forward to accept. then the greatest irony of all time occurred when the USGA revokes his amateur status and he is SHOCKED and APPALLED because he knows how ridiculous the challenge was and that it basically wasnt even a real challenge since no one would accept. and even after this he remains oblivious to his own self absorbed stupidty. i mean can he even be a real person or just the worlds biggest level?

Agree that the OP should be helping to start 50bb/deep tables. Don't think people should dismiss the fact about trying to get rid of the SS problem just because they don't like the OP.

Something needs to be done about the SS invasion on the normal tables. For me it doesn't matter if they are winning or losing short stackers. It's the fact they spoil the game that deep stack players like myself want to play.


FTP has CAP (30bb), 20bb-100bb and 50bb-200bb games. Why not get rid of the normal 20bb-100bb games and only offer CAP (30bb) and 50bb-200bb games. That way those that want to buyin short can, which also allows them to stay at the tables after doubling up.

come on micro bob, LA is just being hypocrital on a very high level... you should ban LA instead