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Old 10-05-2019, 10:13 PM   #4326
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Does this link work for anyone?
https://www.facebook.com/StonesGambl...2290814797517/

It used to be a lengthy facebook post from (I believe) 2018, written by JFK, where he went through an event the casino had held together with pokerstars, and with livestreams and stuff. It contained all the names of the tech staff. This is where I first found Taylor Smith's name, btw, and started cross-referencing the employees with Postle's friend list (which he has made private since then).

Unless that page is bugging out just for me, someone with access to the facebook page (probably JFK) has read this thread, found the one time that I previously posted that link, and deleted that post.
It's gone.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:13 PM   #4327
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https://twitter.com/berkey11/status/1180664699253182464

"Thank you everyone from the Stones area who have experience working or playing there that have reached out. I think I have a very accurate understanding of their operation & am going to attempt to recreate it over the next couple days to demonstrate the obvious vulnerabilities. Matt Berkey (@berkey11)"
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:14 PM   #4328
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There's always the possibility that he had one or more sessions in which he experienced some sort of technical issue(s) in receiving the "data". Could explain his weird hat/phone behavior in a session where he isn't able to play in "God mode" but not for lack of preparing/trying too.
Agree 100% I just don’t see it on that stream, but we have plenty of other GOD mode streams to watch. Hopefully, It will all make sense after Joey finishes his investigation. I cant wait to find out how he did it and how many people are in on it. Crazy to cheat in plain sight!
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:17 PM   #4329
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Link doesn't work.



Searching this thread should help you. At least one lawyer has posted at length about this.
THanks I'll check it out. Just getting to the stream.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:17 PM   #4330
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Anyone familiar with California crime have any idea of the actual crime? and appropriate punishment if allegations are true? Wonder what the crime for the colluder would be as well.
"Cheating in card game"?
There is a specific law about using an electronic device to aid in predicting or determining the outcome of a card game in a licensed gaming establishment. It has a maximum sentence of 10k and/or 1 year in county jail per occurrence.

However, there are lot of things he could probably be charged with. Considering the amount of money, Felony Grand Theft for one.

Sentence for what ever could be relatively harsh. For starters, he didn't steal from some individual or small group. Probably hundreds of people were effected. Secondly, this wasn't some spur of the moment thing. This was all carefully planned. Also, he did it repeatedly and regularly over the course of more than a year. Additionally, we are talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars, not grabbing a loose twenty off somebody. All these factors could lead to a pretty stiff penalty.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:18 PM   #4331
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@Loctus. It's "not available at this moment" for me too.
The other stuff on the Stones Gambling Hall page is still there though.

P.S. I presume you saw the video where they list all the staff? (Just in case you're still in need of names).
Yeah, well, screw the Kuraitis potato, here's the cached view of the page since he for whatever reason decided we couldn't see it. I don't think there's any info to take from it anymore really, he probably deleted it because he didn't want staff names being thrown around in this thread

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...2290814797517/
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:19 PM   #4332
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I'm probably really slow to get this but I just realized the reason Mike is laughing all the times in hands is probably because his co-conspirator is saying something funny into his headset. Is JFK very funny? I'd put my money on the man whose name is Taylor. He's not a sailor. He didn't go to Baylor. So here he is. a Stones Live producer and also a poker dae...ler.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:22 PM   #4333
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Wonder if affected victims have legal attack of casino? Stones liable here? Are there any lawyers on this thread?
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:24 PM   #4334
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Mar 30 2019, stream , at 34:30 you can hear someone from production behind the curtain say something about the hand in play. I don't know if anyone has put this on here yet or if it means anything.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:25 PM   #4335
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

@carlmurr posted this on twitter

https://twitter.com/Carlmurr/status/...217047040?s=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=2pjkPCeckuk

at 1.09.00 into vid stream goes down and and they get word in booth. moments later (1.12.00) someone who works on set is seen talking only to Mike.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:25 PM   #4336
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All the commenters are too dumb to be in on it. They are merly dupes and morons.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:29 PM   #4337
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All the commenters are too dumb to be in on it. They are merly dupes and morons.
What commentators if any were hired after August 22nd 2018. Because that was the time when this started we assume. Would make sense to look that up. Was taylor after that time,?
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:29 PM   #4338
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Postle asks the guy next to him to show his cards on the scanner - I don't see the dealer pointing this out - WTF lol

https://youtu.be/O1Z_IvWUCAg?t=1562
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:30 PM   #4339
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Tonights game: Every time Matusow says "uhhh" or slurs a word, do a shot.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:31 PM   #4340
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiXGr92uQGU&t=265m20s

This hand is my favorite one. Watch Postle on the turn. He makes top two and the preflop three-bettor bets into him for the 2nd time. Dream spot to get value from AA/KK, but not for Postle! He has his palms up for the sigh call before he even sees the sizing.
These commentators are absurdly maddening. He faces a bet on the turn with top 2 and they start asking if postle can find a fold...I guess they don't know but it's like they know. They're just use to the impostleable.

The fact that he acts like he KNOWS he's beat and nearly just folds the river is kind of funny. He just KNOWS he's beat.

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Old 10-05-2019, 10:32 PM   #4341
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Postle asks the guy next to him to show his cards on the scanner - I don't see the dealer pointing this out - WTF lol

https://youtu.be/O1Z_IvWUCAg?t=1562
This dude has to be the dumbest/cockiest person ive ever seen. "Hey you mind making sure your cards hit the scanner i need to make sure I know what you have before i make my decisions. Thanks!"
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:34 PM   #4342
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Mar 30 2019, stream , at 34:30 you can hear someone from production behind the curtain say something about the hand in play. I don't know if anyone has put this on here yet or if it means anything.
Here is the link: https://youtu.be/sc6ymH8H0MQ?t=2070

It doesn't seem to be relevant. It sounds like they are saying the other player was putting Postle on 55 which is the exact hand Postle had.

This is another SNG Postle was playing on stream. Not sure how many of these exist or if people have been tracking them all.

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Old 10-05-2019, 10:34 PM   #4343
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The story had made it to the front page of Hacker News yesterday, a pretty hefty achievement:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21161043
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:36 PM   #4344
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Postle asks the guy next to him to show his cards on the scanner - I don't see the dealer pointing this out - WTF lol

https://youtu.be/O1Z_IvWUCAg?t=1562
I went back and looked as thoroughly as I could to see if Mike Pustule was just repeating what the dealer may have already said to that player on his left (ie if the dealer had already told that player that his cards weren't reading) - you guessed it, NOTHING.

HOW ODD that Mike Pustule would somehow know that the cards aren't reading in real time. IMO Mike is so used to being fed information in real time that he sometimes forgets that he's not supposed to be able to do that, and slips up such as in this case.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:37 PM   #4345
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Postle asks the guy next to him to show his cards on the scanner - I don't see the dealer pointing this out - WTF lol

https://youtu.be/O1Z_IvWUCAg?t=1562
Didn't you hear the commentators? He's ahead of the game.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:39 PM   #4346
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I went back and looked as thoroughly as I could to see if Mike Pustule was just repeating what the dealer may have already said to that player on his left (ie if the dealer had already told that player that his cards weren't reading) - you guessed it, NOTHING.

HOW ODD that Mike Pustule would somehow know that the cards aren't reading in real time. IMO Mike is so used to being fed information in real time that he sometimes forgets that he's not supposed to be able to do that, and slips up such as in this case.
Postle also has his head in his phone as the cards are dealt and doesn't pay attention to the other guy so there's no way he knows the guy hasn't put the cards on the scanner. He only says something when he realizes he's taken a flop with him.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:40 PM   #4347
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He adds on $500 during that time period to go from 1.3k to 1.8k
Mikes favorite SEAT 2 position happens to be the best seat if you plan on cheating and want to be off camera as much as possible. When you see the main camera that shows all players you only see the back of the head of seat 2. Remember, other players stated he would be the first person at the table prior to these GOD sessions just to lock in Seat 2, but I’m not sure 100% of his GOD sessions were all in that seat, but makes sense.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:40 PM   #4348
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Not all bad guys are mean. John Wayne Gacy was a beloved member of his community.
Completely agree. Only reason I responded was because I was reading through the thread and someone made mention of UB players from long ago - and he had a screen shot of my online account.

Yep, prob what makes Mike even more dangerous - very likable guy - wolf in sheeps clothing for sure.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:42 PM   #4349
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Mike Pustule
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:42 PM   #4350
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@carlmurr posted this on twitter

https://twitter.com/Carlmurr/status/...217047040?s=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=2pjkPCeckuk

at 1.09.00 into vid stream goes down and and they get word in booth. moments later (1.12.00) someone who works on set is seen talking only to Mike.
got em!
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