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Originally Posted by Maxeth
This is what playing street poker and running like god looks like. Nobody would care or dare to accuse if this was garret instead of mike. Kinda reminds me of brad booth too. Maybe you should shut up and be thankful this guy is driving the action for all the generic nit pros to profit off of. It seems the average no limit nit cant even do that these days...
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If this was Garrett instead of mike Joey would be worshiping his sweaty nuts and getting him on the pod ASAP (wait he’s already done that). Nit pros are mad at a lag action player because he’s running hot at the moment.
Breaking down his game publicly and accusing him of seeing hole cards in a live game is 1. Unprofessional and 2. Ruining the much needed and missed action no limit has been missing for years and years.
This is why games have gone to ****. This is why no limit is basically dead. This is why most action poker players avoid casinos and play in private games instead.
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How many hours of footage do we have on mike vs garret? And how many total hands is that? Sample sizes are incredibly small and fortunately for mike it’s been great so far.
The nits and colluding pros ran off most of the action players in no limit, and for that I haven’t played a single hand of no limit in 2+ years. If the average poker game had at least 1 mike in them, the no limit boom would still be going strong.
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The action and positions are different. You cannot directly compare them together (and I hope whoever investigates realizes this.). Seems he understands ranges and his opponents love polarizing in spots where they never have it. Combine the live reads/ aspect it’s almost free money. Games at the stone look amazing.
Don’t bluff in spots where you have air 90% of the time against someone who knows what ranges and polarizing is and is clearly not intimidated by the money being played for
The most suspect hand is 45 vs ak ak
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If you win a bunch of money over a short amount of time in a small venue (like stones) people will accuse you of cheating or worse like physically threaten you/ try to follow you home/ run you out of game etc. He’s won too much money, too fast and now the pitch forks and conspiracy theorists have started the witch hunt
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NL games are fragile and if I was a reg at stones I would be pissed that a bunch of guys are scaring an action player off before the inevitable implosion that is waiting. Watching 15 hours of video and making wild speculations that is sure to ruin someone’s action is OOL. If there was undeniable proof that he is cheating then sure fire away. But all I see is a couple dozen hands of donk on donk aggression that doesn’t deserve nvg exposure.
I think we can all agree on one thing tho, cocaine and adderall is one helluva drug ain’t it
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It’s clear mike doesnt know exact hand holdings or he would be playing differently. Which means if he is cheating, it probably uses a binary value system (for speed and simplicity). But the live stream has a delay which prevents someone on the outside (or in the commentary booth) from attempting simple texts or the like.
He could be capturing the raw data and importing it into a simple program but that would depend on how the rfid information is transmitted, and how tech savvy he is. Sensitive data that transmits across casinos networks is not done on the free hotel lobby WiFi. There are laws in place that obligate companies to protect their network from the outside and enforce how the sensitive data is handled across the network. Mike better be a pentester or better if he chose this route. And if he did, he would be prosecuted under the full extent of the law.
So how exactly could he be cheating?
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So the theory that your basing these accusations and shaming is: a film/ production crew member (an employee of the casino and or licensed to work by the commission) has chosen to risk guaranteed, long jail sentences when caught, to split the profits of a small cash game?
You factor in the jail time and they probably won’t even average out more than minimum wage and a felony following you around for life lol. And that’s only factoring if it’s a 2 man job!
Or maybe the guy understands live poker very well and runs hotter than the sun (no different than the current pros you see at high stakes televised games)
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Matt Berkey is a sensitive douche who most likely started the rumors. If he’s invested in RFID then he must know how that data is transmitted from the sensors through the casinos protected network. This isn’t James Bond, hacking this especially in a 24x7 monitored environment is unlikely.
Stones investigated and found nothing... so it’s not faulty hardware or hacking. So you guys are basically accusing the stones live stream owner for being in on it. Again, unlikely considering what they have to lose.
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Depending on the range, most likely the data is transmitted through WiFi. An unsecured AP in a casino environment is extremely unlikely. And the network and network security team have to be involved in order for the data to get from point a to point b.
The point I’m making is it’s next to impossible for a 3rd party to hack into this. Mike is just good at poker at runs hot... or the show creator is in on cheat. If Berkey and co think the the shows creators are in on it they wtf are they playing in the first place?
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I don’t think Joey would take a bunch of adderall and spend 20+ hours of his life “investigating” because some random stones players sent him a pm. Someone he respects (Berkey) told him and that’s when this blew up and turned mikes life into hell.
Being suspicious isn’t enough to dragging this guys name through the mud and ruining all of his future action. You have to how he does it before making accusations and ruining this persons professional and personal life.
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There are a lot of posts implying mike has some sort of backdoor into the technology and im saying as a network security engineer, that it’s highly unlikely. You’re correct that if there is cheating, it has to be a simple relay between someone with access to BOTH the rfid information and the video feed.
According to the stones, they’ve investigated and found no wrong doing. So what is it? Some big conspiracy with multiple people and the casino involved... or some donk on donk violence.
Edit: if the production team investigated themselves then yeah lol that’s a huge red flag
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This guy isn't just running like a god. I've seen players hit the deck hard and run $600 into $25k within 5 hours at 10/20. Their particular playing style perfectly matched the cards being dealt and they could not make a wrong move. Another example, Jamie Gold winning the 2012 WSOP. At best, they run good a couple times a month and run like gods a couple times a year. They don't consistently run like that for long periods. No one expects them of cheating, and cheating allegations aren't taken lightly in the poker community.
It goes without saying, to call someone a cheat, you need serious proof. If multiple people are coming forward calling someone a cheat, isn't that enough reason to begin investigating? Do we need undeniable evidence to accuse someone of cheating? Absolutely not. Multiple allegations are more than enough. If we are wrong, then yes, there will be damage to his credibility etc. But what if he is cheating and we do nothing? What of the tens of thousands of dollars he is robbing from other players? What about the physiological damage he is doing to them and their game? He could end good player's careers like this. If he gets away with it, other players will also find a way to do what he's doing and our systems wont improve. Whether you like it or not, he is now in the court of public opinion, and we are doing the best we can with the evidence at our disposal to investigate the situation.
IMO, he is cheating. Consistently looking at his crotch before and during every hand. Making hero folds with TPTK for small money and always being right, making hero calls and insane bluffs with bottom pair when the opponent is weak, his dumb smirk whenever he's "bluffing" with the best hand knowing the opponent can't call. I could go on and on but I'm sure others, Joe Ingram/Doug Polk, will do a much better job in analyzing his play. Its funny, that he is so bad at poker that he makes it obvious he is cheating. Give this tech to any avg reg and he would never get caught.
Just listen to Postle talk about hands in an interview with the commentator. He sounds like he just started playing yesterday. Matt Berkey makes crazy moves that many poker players don't understand, but listen to him explain the hand and he sounds like a genius. Postle's like, "well I had a feeling, and I drank some wine, and yeah I had a feeling..." There is just no way with his level of thinking, his tendencies, that he is a consistent winner in the game, not just a consistent winner, but NEVER making mistakes, which is ironically, his biggest mistake and will inevitably be his undoing. The stats are something like winning 24/24 sessions, and he's winning HUGE each session at a 5/5 game, 16k+ or that ballpark.
And you being a "network security engineer" and saying something is impossible to hack just sounds wrong to me, I'm sure you've heard of social hacking. There doesn't have to be some huge conspiracy with multiple people at Stone in on it. I understand where you are coming from, but also consider that if there are this many people accusing him of cheating, it is worth an investigation. I mean, people cheat at chess for crying out loud.
Last edited by wiiziwiig; 10-01-2019 at 05:39 PM.