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12-07-2023 , 02:13 PM

#151

Mrdegen00

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Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 15

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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen

Probably some truth to the things Wes are saying but the dude seems very low intelligence. Not surprised if he has been involved in pump and dump crypto schemes to boost his wealth either. Feels like a scammer/lowlife who now feels like there is nothing to lose by trying to throw other scammers under the bus.

"The dude seems very low intelligence " -- that verbage speaks volumes for your intelligence level. You're obviously low on the totem pole. Obviously not smart enough to recognize intelligence. Wesley isn't an idi 0t like yourself.

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12-07-2023 , 02:16 PM

#152

Rmbxr9

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,012

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Originally Posted by Noobtard

Yesterday they hosted Adam22 who has had some deplorable accusations against him in the last year.

They’ve made it abundantly clear they’ll allow anyone to play, and exploit any situation to get a click/view

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12-07-2023 , 02:38 PM

#153

checkraisdraw

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Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 5,401

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Originally Posted by lwlee

Apparently Doug spoke to Zeo/Wes. So new info in the video.

If it’s true that no one denies that there were marked cards + mars and the friend he brought made a ton of money that night, the chances that it was someone else that marked the cards is extremely low. It’s not definitive proof but it is enough for me to say Mars probably did cheat.

Not enough for me to say that Sia was involved or anything about mechanics. You wouldn’t need a mechanic if you have marked cards.

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12-07-2023 , 03:26 PM

#154

Mrdegen00

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Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 15

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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw

If you got a mechanic dealing marked cards then you can deal big coolers more efficiently and make money come piling in faster, then have chips dumped to others involved.

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12-07-2023 , 04:26 PM

#155

checkraisdraw

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Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 5,401

Me not wanting to say it’s conclusive is not the same as me saying it didn’t happen. I know in the age of twitter everyone has to have a hot take for everything but I find it’s easier to make a decision when more info comes out.

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12-07-2023 , 04:47 PM

#156

rickroll

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 28,457

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Originally Posted by Floki

Because when you come public at cheaters , they try everything they can to hurt you. It happened to several french people who got ambushed because they reported the infamous 1,6 million € cheating at Partouche Poker Tour Cannes 2009 by Jean-Paul Pasqualini and Cedric Rossi where they signaled to eachother their hands during a final table and finished 1st and 2nd for 1 million € and 600k€ , after this victory Pasqualini won multiple sponsorship for Full Tilt and Unibet.

The cheating in video here: their code is Head = Ace, Front = King, Eye = Queen , Nose = Jack , Mouth = Ten, Neck = Nine Eight, Arm = small pair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Cs...l=NordineBouya

oh got it, other french people have cheated before so clearly this one other french guy is a cheat as well - thanks for this evidence, for a minute i thought you were full of it

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12-07-2023 , 06:05 PM

#157

ILoveThisGame8407

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Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 5

"Arnaud is innocent until proven guilty, we hope he is innocent. But the fact, that he was involved in a similar scandal kept behind closed doors but known by the entire Paris poker sphere, does not help his case. 5 years ago, the poker group "entram's" that gather 100 poker regulars from paris caught him with cards in his sleeves and decided to ban him."

If you don't read nothing but this, This is all you need to know about this dude.

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12-07-2023 , 06:18 PM

#158

ES2

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,220

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Originally Posted by Noobtard

This is true, but as Borg23 said these shady players are bringing in the views.

I guess a boycott may cause them to step up their game on vetting people.

Yesterday they hosted Adam22 who has had some deplorable accusations against him in the last year.

Outside of the rapist, the owner of the show is the biggest scumbag of the lot. So this is kinda like saying you're boycotting a mafia owned business until they hire nicer foot soldiers.

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12-07-2023 , 07:11 PM

#159

Noobtard

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Originally Posted by ES2

Outside of the rapist, the owner of the show is the biggest scumbag of the lot. So this is kinda like saying you're boycotting a mafia owned business until they hire nicer foot soldiers.

Yea good point lol

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12-07-2023 , 08:19 PM

#160

floatingtheriver

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Join Date: Feb 2023 Posts: 229

Heard he was involved with Chad Power's group or something. Was that the guy who Bilzerian accused of cheating?

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12-07-2023 , 08:22 PM

#161

Floki

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Originally Posted by rickroll

oh got it, other french people have cheated before so clearly this one other french guy is a cheat as well - thanks for this evidence, for a minute i thought you were full of it

If this is really what you understood from my 2 answers to you , then you have a very low IQ .

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12-07-2023 , 10:00 PM

#162

lwlee

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Does Audio Reveal that Mars Cheated in Private Poker Game?

Last edited by lwlee; 12-07-2023 at 10:23 PM. Reason: made some glib remarks but after listening to the entire thing, it sounds serious and not a joking matter

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12-07-2023 , 10:40 PM

#163

rickroll

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Originally Posted by ILoveThisGame8407

oh wow another brand new account

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12-07-2023 , 10:49 PM

#164

18000rpm

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Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,448

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Originally Posted by lwlee

Does Audio Reveal that Mars Cheated in Private Poker Game?

Wow this recording is

FYI I'm a Mandarin speaker and the translation is 100% correct.

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12-08-2023 , 03:19 AM

#165

Highroll Poker

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Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 35

Sia Qiu aka "Sia The Bot" released her official statement on Twitter

https://twitter.com/sia_qiu/status/1732958217809150423

https://twitter.com/sia_qiu/status/1732961079544987750

https://twitter.com/sia_qiu/status/1732981404852773278

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12-08-2023 , 04:27 AM

#166

kerr

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,022

Yep, Sia very active in the last few hours. Now I gotta read all the tweets.

Google translate in Twitter is very impressive.

Sounds like she does not have an issue remaining close friends with cheaters, but denies being involved or having any knowledge when it happened.

Last edited by kerr; 12-08-2023 at 04:34 AM.

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12-08-2023 , 05:50 AM

#167

Rmbxr9

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,012

These Spaces are the most excruciating thing anyone can listen to. I clicked and listened for like 20 min in the background, it’s just random people not knowing anything and not listening

So mike the mechanic was at the Vegas game…
…No no no it wasn’t mike, it was mike at La
Ok so Mike was in LA
…well sometimes
And sometimes in Vegas
… Tom?
No mike
… no mike wasn’t at vegas

Holy sh-t, it’s just that over and over and over and translations and people not understanding each other

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12-08-2023 , 06:18 AM

#168

Noobtard

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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9

These Spaces are the most excruciating thing anyone can listen to. I clicked and listened for like 20 min in the background, it’s just random people not knowing anything and not listening

Yea spaces suck, I listened to one from the Doug Polk/Charlie Carrell drama and it was unbearable

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12-08-2023 , 06:34 AM

#169

TucoSalamanca

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 272

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Originally Posted by 18000rpm

Wow this recording is

FYI I'm a Mandarin speaker and the translation is 100% correct.

Mars is using every tool in the book of cheaters ”how to talk to the victim”.

It’s funny when he says they don’t care about the money anymore. Yeah buddy, but I think the people you cheated carw about it.

And for sure these guys are not going to do anything to hurt Wesley physically, I respect Wesley for putting all of this in the public.

Back in the days the Swedish group (Kowassarie + co) who installed Trojan viruses to player’s laptops and won money from them were able to make the victims quiet because of their connections to the Swedish motorcycle clubs.

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12-08-2023 , 08:18 AM

#170

ggyy1414

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Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 22

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Originally Posted by SuperSwag

Seems like Mars is saying Wesley is using RTA and he is denying it

no,he does not deny it,the translation is not quite correct. I am bad at English,I'd try my best to trans the conversation.

P1:
Wesley: everyone can use GTO wizzard now as long as the api opened, but I dont need to use wizzard, I have my own,I spent 1 million for the server, planning to use on GG
Mars: thats too complicated, I rather play live games.
Wesley: There are also many cheats in live games

p2:
Mars: RTA cannot guarantee win，otherwise everyone would use RTA.
Wesley: It guarantees win，HU is solved,hunman can't beat RTA, that's why PS closed all hu table

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12-08-2023 , 08:22 AM

#171

BrickMMA

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Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 726

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Originally Posted by TucoSalamanca

Swedish motorcycle clubs? It's hard to imagine anything less intimidating sounding.

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12-08-2023 , 08:32 AM

#172

MastaAces

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 10,251

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Originally Posted by BrickMMA

Swedish motorcycle clubs? It's hard to imagine anything less intimidating sounding.

if you don't have any clue how Hell's Angels and Bandidos (and a couple others) operate then i suppose it doesn't sound very intimidating.

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12-08-2023 , 08:56 AM

#173

ILoveThisGame8407

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Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 5

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Originally Posted by rickroll

oh wow another brand new account

I'm sorry, were you not a brand new account at one time too??

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12-08-2023 , 09:01 AM

#174

Fat_Vicious

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 313

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Originally Posted by MastaAces

if you don't have any clue how Hell's Angels and Bandidos (and a couple others) operate then i suppose it doesn't sound very intimidating.

Although I know what you mean, you gotta agree how ridiculous it sounds. I mean, imagine some scandi boomers with beards and jail tattoos wearing leather clothes. LEATHER CLOTHES JFC!

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12-08-2023 , 09:07 AM

#175

BrickMMA

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Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 726

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Originally Posted by Fat_Vicious

Although I know what you mean, you gotta agree how ridiculous it sounds. I mean, imagine some scandi boomers with beards and jail tattoos wearing leather clothes. LEATHER CLOTHES JFC!

I know; I mean, I'm being kind of tongue-in-cheek, but I just picture a Swedish motorcycle gang being a bunch of cats like this on Vespa scooters.

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