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07-15-2014 , 04:50 PM
probably the most incredible tourney accomplishment any of us will ever see in our lifetimes (if you're 9 years old on here you'll still never see this again)

Even shipping the Main AND the Europe Main the same year isn't as impressive (it is superficially but not really). The only thing more impressive would be someone winning three bracelets in three straight NLH events against large 2500+ fields. Super luckbox but also super skills.

Think about what happened here. 2 FT against a combined 13,000 players.
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07-15-2014 , 04:52 PM
if anyone can find the thread about the rich degen kid / blackjack counter turned limit holdem beast that staked newhouse it's a pretty cool read
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07-15-2014 , 05:00 PM
Hate this guy, they way he behaves at the table is so annoying. But great achievement nevertheless. Nice run.
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07-15-2014 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
Same for 2011 and 2012. Hienz and Duhammel.... 4th from the left.

newhizzle is a lock



Confirmed betting rollz
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07-15-2014 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Wennersten
Hate this guy, they way he behaves at the table is so annoying. But great achievement nevertheless. Nice run.
I know little to nothing about him, but remember being decently impressed with his game in last year's telecast... and I don't remember ever being annoyed by him in the slightest. Does anyone have solid evidence he acts like a jackass or are you all just 40 year old jealous nerds who live at home and play 1/2 on weekends?
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07-15-2014 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sbarnhouse
I know little to nothing about him, but remember being decently impressed with his game in last year's telecast... and I don't remember ever being annoyed by him in the slightest. Does anyone have solid evidence he acts like a jackass or are you all just 40 year old jealous nerds who live at home and play 1/2 on weekends?
You are putting him up on a pedestal when he is just on a good run and has variance on his side. You created this thread and think he is some kind of legend just because he has had a great run these past two years and played well. There is a lot of luck in tournaments and I don't think you understand how variance works. I am not really a fan of this guy and I might not even watch that much of the final table because Dan Smith and Scott Palmer didn't make it to the final table. This is a solid accomplishment for Mark but lets not make it more then what it is.
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07-15-2014 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kevmode
You are putting him up on a pedestal when he is just on a good run and has variance on his side. You created this thread and think he is some kind of legend just because he has had a great run these past two years and played well. There is a lot of luck in tournaments and I don't think you understand how variance works. I am not really a fan of this guy and I might not even watch that much of the final table because Dan Smith and Scott Palmer didn't make it to the final table. This is a solid accomplishment for Mark but lets not make it more then what it is.
So at what point do you give anyone credit?
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07-15-2014 , 05:32 PM
dont know him and dont know how good he is but doesnt even matter i love this
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07-15-2014 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by unta8
if anyone can find the thread about the rich degen kid / blackjack counter turned limit holdem beast that staked newhouse it's a pretty cool read
Anyone? I'd love to read that.
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07-15-2014 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kevmode
He is just on a good run, I have friends that are better at poker then this guy. Not sure why everyone is on his nuts because he ran well and made two final tables in a row. I also read into the Brandi thread and this guy seems to lack common sense. Brandi was a terrible human being and he was with her so that goes to show you what this guy is about.
A lot of people obsess over bracelets, especially guys with 5+ bracelets but with the small fields in some of the bracelet events, i'd say it's much tougher to final table the main back to back than win 5+ bracelets.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 07-15-2014 at 06:22 PM. Reason: Removing all the Brandi stuff as I don't think we need that in here.
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07-15-2014 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by iPUTnutsONtheTABLE
A lot of people obsess over bracelets, especially guys with 5+ bracelets but with the small fields in some of the bracelet events, i'd say it's much tougher to final table the main back to back than win 5+ bracelets.
I feel like there is a lot more luck that is involved in final tabling the main event back to back then winning 5+ bracelets. You are entitled your opinion that is fine but I don't agree with you. Mark final tabling the main back to back is a great achievement but he had variance on his side and ran well.
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07-15-2014 , 06:08 PM
I'll play DS for a day and point out that trying to calculate the long odds of someone making the ME-N9 2 years in a row to try and evaluate just how remarkable it actually is (or is not) has two potential traps:

1) the first of which is pretty obvious and has already been identified ITT > we're not talking about the odds of one given person making two-straight ME-N9's before the first year's ME has even begun, but rather the odds that any one of the previous year's N9 makes the ME-N9 the following year as well.

2) the second is a little more subtle, but assessing just how unique this result was, we should really be taking into account all poker-related events that have similar odds to {a modestly-above-average poker player making the N9}. By restricting the inquiry to the binary ME-N9:yes/no, we're really committing a different version of the fallacy in #1 above.
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07-15-2014 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Awnline
Mark deserves this back to back FT.. he used to drive an M5 then had to drive a pos old school honda civic with no driver side window cuz someone broke into his car (so effed up). I hope he takes this down.
Rofl, post of the thread. Moar stories of newhizzzzzle'ness plz!

Knew this guy was a degen when he shipped that WPT for 1.5milly. Then saw him for years on the tour, grinding, without a ton of success, but stayed with it and he has the degen heart of a Lion!

Saw some quick video with Micon in it, where newhizzzzzle was smokin a cig outside a random liveament and insta solidified my read that he was a degen to the Maximus
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07-15-2014 , 06:25 PM
It's an injustice of the achievement to calculate the odds based on someone who has already made it. The true weight of his accomplishment is based on the odds of a player making the final table in consecutive years.

As far as Mark's rep...He is not the same dude. He has definitely changed. There are lots of scumbags in poker, but he is not one of them. He made a lot of dumb mistakes years ago. We all did.
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07-15-2014 , 06:28 PM
Also, just want to note how tough it is to play his style when things haven't gone well for a while. It takes confidence and lack of concern for the repercussions. Many, myself included, would tone it down, question our actions, etc. He just goes with it weather he's rolled or doesn't have gas money home.

That's where a degen's heart is a huge advantage, when the pressure is on. Good luck Mark
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07-15-2014 , 07:10 PM
Excellent accomplishment. Can't believe it won't be decided for another 4 months
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07-15-2014 , 07:32 PM
he obviously didnt run bad but you have to give him credit. That is a very unlikely outcome that he achieved. pretty impressive.
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07-15-2014 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
Same for 2011 and 2012. Hienz and Duhammel.... 4th from the left.

newhizzle is a lock



If anything this goes against him winning this year.

I mean the odds of the 4th person from the left in the November 9 photographs winning it 4 consecutive years is 1400/1 approximately.

The 2nd from the right has the best chance given nobody has won from that position ever therefore there is 76.5% chance of doing so this year.
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07-15-2014 , 08:43 PM
FWIW, Newhouse will have direct position on the two larger stacks, so that must help his chances on the FT.

I think Jacobson is the best player at the table though.
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07-15-2014 , 08:51 PM
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There are 6683 entries this year. If all players are of equal skill, then there's a 9/6683 chance of any one player getting to the final table of the ME.

If every November 9er of last year entered the WSOPME this year, the chance of none of them reaching the final table this year is ((6683-9)/6683)^9 = 98.79%.

The chance of at least one November 9er from last year getting to the final table this year, assuming a field of equal skill and all 9 enter, is therefore about 1.2%.
I'm a mathematician and Hood is correct. I worked it out as 1 in 86 myself (using 7000 entrants) and was about to post but he's beaten me to it.
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07-15-2014 , 09:12 PM
If you were a half decent mathematician you would realise even trying to calculate such a thing is ridiculous with so many variables.
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07-15-2014 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kevmode
I feel like there is a lot more luck that is involved in final tabling the main event back to back then winning 5+ bracelets. You are entitled your opinion that is fine but I don't agree with you. Mark final tabling the main back to back is a great achievement but he had variance on his side and ran well.
I think it would be much easier to bink a few 100 entrant bracelet tournaments, especially if you played back in the 80's and 90's when the level of play probably wasn't as good as it is now, than beat out 6800 people to make a final table, especially twice in a row.

Think about it, if you are a good player and played 50 bracelet tournaments with only around 100 entrants each, you'd be even money to win 1 bracelet and if you ran well over some of those tournaments, you could easily win a few bracelets.
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07-15-2014 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sbarnhouse
I know little to nothing about him, but remember being decently impressed with his game in last year's telecast... and I don't remember ever being annoyed by him in the slightest. Does anyone have solid evidence he acts like a jackass or are you all just 40 year old jealous nerds who live at home and play 1/2 on weekends?
Mark def stepped in it when the multi accounting came to light but be honest. It wasn't like Stars made it hard not to do it and as much money was flowing back in those days, it was a common thing for A LOT of regs to have more than one account. I can name multiple pros still playing today that had more than one account. **** I had more than one account.

That is his blight on the community. Having more than one account. All the regs he played knew this.


All of the old school grinders that are considered to be good people also call him a good person.

he is an absolute sicko and I have nothing but respect for him . He came back from a VERY dark road full of the worst POS's this community has ever seen put a world of hurt on him and hes back. hes back.

so sick last 4 me's , 4-hole in pick wins....
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07-16-2014 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sbarnhouse
I know little to nothing about him, but remember being decently impressed with his game in last year's telecast... and I don't remember ever being annoyed by him in the slightest. Does anyone have solid evidence he acts like a jackass or are you all just 40 year old jealous nerds who live at home and play 1/2 on weekends?

I don't remember being impressed by his play honestly, of course he is great player making this run twice but its not like he is ****ing god either. Honestly just remember one hand from the ft where he got it in QQ vs KK and flopped a set to double up. He still managed to go home in 9th tho.
When it comes to his behavior I've seen multiple things that makes him a jackass, but probably the one thing that stands out for me was the way he behaved against Anton Morgenstern at ME 2013. He downtalked his play in front of the whole feature table and with the entire poker community watching back home. I think if he means he has such an enormous edge over him he should keep his mouth shut and take advantage of that by outplaying him instead imo.

But as I said, great accomplishment and if he manages to take the bracelet home this time its one of the sickest achievements of all time.

And I'm 22 y old btw.


Have a great day!
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07-16-2014 , 02:36 AM
I was sweating his progress while following the wsop.com updates. Really wanted him to make it, just a historic and amazing achievement to go back-to-back in such huge fields. There seems to always be one or two november niners running deep the next year, but they always fall short. Quite a historic main event this year, first there was the most consecutive cashes record broken and now a repeat November Niner.

Best of luck to Newhouse in November, any place but 9th again will be fantastic.
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