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10-02-2017 , 05:30 PM
I know a lot of people here are from Las Vegas. Any reports from anyone present at the shooting?
10-02-2017 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
^^^^^
Online sources which can be on the scene and immediate and give you streaming visuals unedited are completely displacing MSMedia. Saw that with Catalan referendum and now this 50+ dead tragedy.
You mean the online sources that named and identified some poor smuck named Geary Danley as the shooter and then plastered it all over the Internet?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2eb070a1a5a1
10-02-2017 , 05:41 PM
Maybe I'm totally overreacting but I read way too many posts itt talking about how this might negatively affect poker if the media zooms too much on that aspect of the story and posts trying to argument why it would be impossible that his motivation had anything to do with gambling. This is a huge tragedy and whatever the truth is, it should come out. If gambling/poker is a part of it, the media & investigation should clearly go there and find out what went wrong and how we can prevent it in the future. Something like this will not result in gambling being outlawed or whatever, look at what happend to video games in the past couple of decades and where that industry is now. It had no effect.



Anyway, LV hotels have lots of cameras right? If he was at the hotel for a week there's probably tons of footage of what he was up to, and we should find out eventually.
10-02-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
You mean the online sources that named and identified some poor smuck named Geary Danley as the shooter and then plastered it all over the Internet?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2eb070a1a5a1
Don't get your news from 4chan, kids.
10-02-2017 , 05:52 PM
I have seen a couple of times that ISIS claimed this but not on TV. Is TV news instructed to not mention this or is this not true? Or they have to confirm 100% before mentioning it?
10-02-2017 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
I have seen a couple of times that ISIS claimed this but not on TV. Is TV news instructed to not mention this or is this not true? Or they have to confirm 100% before mentioning it?
The AP reported ISIS claiming responsibility and the FBI quickly refuted the ISIS claims.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/914856906346377216
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The FBI says the shooter who killed 58 people and injured more than 500 others at a Las Vegas concert had no connection to an international terrorist group.

The announcement from Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse at a news conference Monday comes after the Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the attack without providing evidence.

The extremist group claimed that the shooter was “a soldier” who had converted to Islam months ago. It has made exaggerated or false claims in the past.
10-02-2017 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
lol im not going to argue with delusion
You're an abject moron.

The RKBA has nothing to do with fighting drones and tanks with rifles. I suppose if the US military really wanted to commit mass genocide, then civilian gun ownership wouldn't make a difference, but *that* scenario is delusional.

Rather an armed citizenry is an ongoing and vital check on government power, especially as it relates to domestic law enforcement. Much like free speech. If the government attempted to enforce an immoral & unconstitutional law (perhaps aided by a sympathetic court), it would need to be enforced somehow. There is a line in the sand they know they can't cross without incurring both massive civil protests, and if it came to it, determined armed resistance.

These civil rights are not only symbiotic, but are what fundamentally define a free society in the first place.
10-02-2017 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
no they wouldnt.
seriously tho how? were they under a bed, btwn mattresses, in a closet, taken apart and pieces stored in a dufle bag? not like he can cut a hole in the wall and hide em n there or put em n the attic or a shed out back, or garage etc..
10-02-2017 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
I have seen a couple of times that ISIS claimed this but not on TV. Is TV news instructed to not mention this or is this not true? Or they have to confirm 100% before mentioning it?
isis also claims responsibility for the blister i just gave myself walking to and from my local liquor store. They legit claim responsibility for everything, its part of their business model.
10-02-2017 , 06:07 PM
Sheriff press conference just changed the deceased count to 59
10-02-2017 , 06:09 PM
and injured is up from 515 to 529. God help us.
10-02-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
I've seen two reports about ISIS-literature found in the hotel room. I hope that becomes the focus of MSMedia rather than his video-poker playing.
Seriously. A deluded nutjob commits a heinous act with his own deluded justifications, which we may or may not eventually find out. Whether or not he played video poker or had ISIS leaflets or Breitbart leaflets in his room, the point is he did this because he is nuts
10-02-2017 , 06:11 PM
Anyone here trying to have gun control debates just do us a favor and burn your keyboard no one wants to here that bs right now people are hurting.
10-02-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Stupor
Seriously. A deluded nutjob commits a heinous act with his own deluded justifications, which we may or may not eventually find out. Whether or not he played video poker or had ISIS leaflets or Breitbart leaflets in his room, the point is he did this because he is nuts
ya but thgere's different kinds of "nuts" there's isis nuts and "where are my pants" nuts". I dont think it was isis, if it was it sure was a drastic improvement for them relative to their sloppy ass failures in the past, this was stealth and quite effective, not their mode of operation imo.
10-02-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Drrr.Gonzo
Anyone here trying to have gun control debates just do us a favor and burn your keyboard no one wants to here that bs right now people are hurting.
+1, just awful. Condolences to anyone involved.
10-02-2017 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Drrr.Gonzo
Anyone here trying to have gun control debates just do us a favor and burn your keyboard no one wants to here that bs right now people are hurting.
But people typing in a forum about how people are injured is somehow going to help those people or the situation. Got it.

It's never the time to talk about sensible gun regulation. Shut all discussion down always.
10-02-2017 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
ya but thgere's different kinds of "nuts" there's isis nuts and "where are my pants" nuts". I dont think it was isis, if it was it sure was a drastic improvement for them relative to their sloppy ass failures in the past, this was stealth and quite effective, not their mode of operation imo.
So a 66 year old lone wolf white male american millionaire commits this act and the reason you cleverly deduct it wasn't committed by ISIS is the fact that it was done so "stealthily"
10-02-2017 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy
But people typing in a forum about how people are injured is somehow going to help those people or the situation. Got it.

It's never the time to talk about sensible gun regulation. Shut all discussion down always.
i kinda agree with this but i dont wanna be viewed as heartless. I guess lets maybe change the thread title to RIp or MB massacre mourning thread and when enough time has passed let us know or open a new one where discussion can be had about pat events and how to prevent them from happening in he future.
10-02-2017 , 06:23 PM
The balcony video shows what looks like a laser pointer moving through the crowd right before the gunfire.
10-02-2017 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Stupor
So a 66 year old lone wolf white male american millionaire commits this act and the reason you cleverly deduct it wasn't committed by ISIS is the fact that it was done so "stealthily"
i didnt cleverly deduct anything smart ass, i was supporting what everyone else said, that it's not isis and i elaborated provided a reason in my opinion supporting that viewpoint.

Dont be an ******* and hijack, condolences to all. I cant imagine how those living in vegas are feeling or how their plans for the day and their overall lives have changed, its fn terrible. Prayers to those wounded and the families of those who have been lost.
10-02-2017 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by faxanadu
The balcony video shows what looks like a laser pointer moving through the crowd right before the gunfire.
Most likely part of the show or video tricks (glare, etc). A laser from a firearm sight from that distance wouldn't reach that far.
10-02-2017 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GentlemanJack
Most likely part of the show or video tricks (glare, etc). A laser from a firearm sight from that distance wouldn't reach that far.
300 yards? Gun mounted ones easily do 1000+ yards.
10-02-2017 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
i kinda agree with this but i dont wanna be viewed as heartless. I guess lets maybe change the thread title to RIp or MB massacre mourning thread and when enough time has passed let us know or open a new one where discussion can be had about pat events and how to prevent them from happening in he future.
Heartless are the people who profit off of mass shootings - while purposely shutting discussions down. The people buying stock because they know guns sales will temporarily spike. The NRA and others shutting down discussion because it's never the time. It is beyond time.

I have lots of family in Vegas (some of which go to this festival), but were not there fortunately. But whether my family is in Vegas or anywhere in the US, none of us are safe because we've allowed the lunatics in our society to control this discussion.

If anything is going to help, it's continued adult discussion on this important topic, and open mindedness. Clearly something needs to change. And that something is the adults in the room standing up and making their voices heard, and common sense regulation.
10-02-2017 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GentlemanJack
Most likely part of the show or video tricks (glare, etc). A laser from a firearm sight from that distance wouldn't reach that far.
are u sure? how do they hit helicopters then? People get arrested where I live on the reg for pointing laser pointers at police choppers, last one was just a few months ago. Assassin laser i think its called, google it?
10-02-2017 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
i think he was younger than 66, and ya to answer your q, pretty much. At least thats the easiest and most obv conclusion.
oh i think there are easier and more obvious ways to reach that conclusion.

certain people do love to run around the room screaming "ISIS" whenever anything bad happens though

Edit: you ninja edited your post and called me names. whatever, yes focus should be on the victims, is terrible tragedy

Last edited by Stupor; 10-02-2017 at 06:36 PM. Reason: bigbwalz ninja edit

      
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