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08-17-2011 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LT22
Polov,

This has nothing to do with the fact Samo is an online player.

Please explain why Samo needs to grow balls. He is the one who wanted to play the match. Gabe is the one who backed out.
No problem:

When i tell samoleus to grow some balls, I mean stop acting like some ****ing child posting 30 times the same thing on some forum, and start acting like a normal grown human being functioning in society. Get a ticket, fly to Biloxi or wherever, call Gabe, tell him Im here, and proceed to play. Now i will be bombarded by all the guardian nerds 'but how can he go without escrow, it will waste his time, Gabe will back out when he gets there' and all the other ****. Well my response to that is if samoleus goes down, and Gabe does that, then samoleus wins even grander than if he just beat him playing. He can then proceed to the Beau, which as someone mentioned is one of the best poker rooms apparently, play a bit, explain to everyone how Gabe pussied out, further winning, make a little poker vacation out of it and then head back home. If i recall correctly samoleus and his nerd followers specifically repeated another fact 356 times, and that is that 40k is peanuts to an epic grinder like samoleus, therefore there isnt even the issue of spending a couple hundred bucks for a hotel for one night and plane tickets to have the pleasure of having Gabe back out and proving once and for all that he is wrong.
It is very simple, this is how it works in the real world, if samo wants to play, he knows where gabe is, its up to him. One does not whine on a forum for weeks on end if one truly wants to play and has financial freedom, that is the action of someone that wants to appear he wants to play and gain cred in amongst his fellow losers, i.e someone without balls.
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08-17-2011 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
No problem:

When i tell samoleus to grow some balls, I mean stop acting like some ****ing child posting 30 times the same thing on some forum, and start acting like a normal grown human being functioning in society. Get a ticket, fly to Biloxi or wherever, call Gabe, tell him Im here, and proceed to play. Now i will be bombarded by all the guardian nerds 'but how can he go without escrow, it will waste his time, Gabe will back out when he gets there' and all the other ****. Well my response to that is if samoleus goes down, and Gabe does that, then samoleus wins even grander than if he just beat him playing. He can then proceed to the Beau, which as someone mentioned is one of the best poker rooms apparently, play a bit, explain to everyone how Gabe pussied out, further winning, make a little poker vacation out of it and then head back home. If i recall correctly samoleus and his nerd followers specifically repeated another fact 356 times, and that is that 40k is peanuts to an epic grinder like samoleus, therefore there isnt even the issue of spending a couple hundred bucks for a hotel for one night and plane tickets to have the pleasure of having Gabe back out and proving once and for all that he is wrong.
It is very simple, this is how it works in the real world, if samo wants to play, he knows where gabe is, its up to him. One does not whine on a forum for weeks on end if one truly wants to play and has financial freedom, that is the action of someone that wants to appear he wants to play and gain cred in amongst his fellow losers, i.e someone without balls.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
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08-17-2011 , 04:26 PM
How can you be so naive to say that Samo should have flown to Mississippi with 40k but no guarantee of a match?

If Gabe backs out Samo doesn't "win even grander." He wasn't here (meaning this thread) to prove Gabe would back out, he was here to make money. If Gabe backs out Samo loses his flight/hotel stay and the opportunity cost of his time. You don't start playing matches like this without confirmation of ALL details. You also don't take weeks to confirm details. It takes 20 mins. Pick location, escrow funds, play poker. What's the song, "2 out of 3 Ain't Bad." Gabe only managed to come up with a half assed solution to 1 of the 3 conditions that needed to be met.

For somebody who is so paranoid (Gabe) it is amazing he wouldn't want to ensure the security/integrity of the match by following through with an escrow.
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08-17-2011 , 04:27 PM
Polov's analogy about cars and girls make no sense. Gabe is posting into a forum bashing the skill of online players vs top live players, and said forum is full of online players that obvsly disagree. He was bound to get flamed at least a little bit, but the fact that his arguments and speech seem like they are formulated by a 5 year old increase the flamage. Even worse, he has had very good success in poker (relative to norm), so people are going to hold him to a higher standard, and the fact they he sounds like an idiot when he's arguing inclines people to chime in. It's the WAY he argues that pisses people off, he just makes wild claims with no substance, constantly contradicts himself, and never addresses anybody's logical responses. This isn't NITPICKING, what he says is legitimately crap. It doesn't make sense, yet he's extreeeeeemely cocky: 80% fav over jungleman lol

If anyone is socially awkward, that is irrelevant to Gabe's ludicrous, laughable claims. It's not nitpicking.

And you going after Samo like he was harrassing him? 40K is a lot of money man, if you're going to agree to do this you don't wanna buy a plane ticket/hotel and then have him just bail on you (given Gabe's evasive actions, this was very likely). You have to work out the details.
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08-17-2011 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
When i tell samoleus to grow some balls, I mean stop acting like some ****ing child posting 30 times the same thing on some forum, and start acting like a normal grown human being functioning in society. Get a ticket, fly to Biloxi or wherever, call Gabe, tell him Im here, and proceed to play. Now i will be bombarded by all the guardian nerds 'but how can he go without escrow, it will waste his time, Gabe will back out when he gets there' and all the other ****. Well my response to that is if samoleus goes down, and Gabe does that, then samoleus wins even grander than if he just beat him playing.
That is just nonsensical. Who the hell flies somewhere to meet up with some guy who may or may not show? We are talking about samo's job here, this is his work time. Your line is effectively: 'Who cares about the $40K, he will have the satisfaction of proving Gabe to be All Talk'.

No need to hop on a plane to do that, mission already accomplished.
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08-17-2011 , 04:31 PM
also Polov, maybe if you go into an MMA forum claiming you will fight anyone anytime, and some beast guy challenges you , you can be like but but but but it was hypothetical!!!!

LT22: good point, Samo's goal is not to make Gabe look bad, he just wants to make $, so getting to tell stories about Gabe in Mississippi is useless to him I'm sure. Dumb reasoning
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08-17-2011 , 04:34 PM
Gabe, while you're here, you have another challenge to back out on.
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08-17-2011 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Beer
That is just nonsensical. Who the hell flies somewhere to meet up with some guy who may or may not show? We are talking about samo's job here, this is his work time. Your line is effectively: 'Who cares about the $40K, he will have the satisfaction of proving Gabe to be All Talk'.

No need to hop on a plane to do that, mission already accomplished.
Indeed! Somehow this fact escaped poor polov.
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08-17-2011 , 04:47 PM
So first its

"Gabe offered to play for 40k because he knew samo would not accept as it was soooooooooo little for him and it wouldnt be worth his time"

and now

"And you going after Samo like he was harrassing him? 40K is a lot of money man"

"That is just nonsensical. Who the hell flies somewhere to meet up with some guy who may or may not show? We are talking about samo's job here, this is his work time. "

"He wasn't here (meaning this thread) to prove Gabe would back out, he was here to make money."

Do you see how idiotic this is? Earlier in the thread it was implied by samos pack of nerds and samo himself that samo is so COOL that hell even accept a match of ONLY 40k, way below his level, so he can put EDD in his place and defend the glory of the nerds. So instead of doing what i suggested, have gabe back out, accomplish the mission and treat yourself to one two days of vacation like the baller that he is saying he is, he is whining and pestering for 3 weeks about a ****ing escrow. If you guys cant see the utter stupidity here then what can i tell you.

Ill spell it out, if samo wanted to put EDD in his place as he said he did and viewed 40k as too low a game for him as he once again said he did, the logical human would have just went to Biloxi and put EDD in his place by playing him or having him back out. You cant pretend one step that it was about the principle and then in the other that it was about money. Trying to secure an escrow by reposting the same message 30 times followed by a bitchy post which can only be forgiven if it was written by a woman on the rag, well thats once again a person with no balls, hence, samoleus grow some balls you c.u.n.t

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08-17-2011 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
If you guys cant see the utter stupidity here then what can i tell you
I can see the stupidity.
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08-17-2011 , 04:57 PM
40K can still be a lot of money, yet Samo would prefer to play higher and Gabe KNOWS that. It's not black and white you know, it's not like the only 2 choices are "**** ton of money, thus must plan it out" and "not much money at all so might as well fly out and not give a ****". there is an in between, where it's a lot of money, so you're going to make sure its done right, yet you would still play higher if given the opportunity.

It only took 3 weeks because CLEARLY Gabe was dodging him. If Gabe had actually tried to make the match happen, the "details" could have been sorted out in less than a day. I think a few hours of work are worth insuring you're not wasting your time.
logic fail on your part.

Also, how do you know Samo would even want to go to fricken Mississippi (when Gabe bails on him) where he maybe knows no one, doesn't care to play in the casino or stay at a hotel.....why are you assuming he even wants to do that? Pretty sure he is just in this to make money and take on Gabe cuz he thinks its ++++++EV
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08-17-2011 , 05:08 PM
So I'm guessing Polov is Gabe...
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08-17-2011 , 05:08 PM
another thing Polov fails to grasp: Samo was always in this for the money. It may be principle for us railers, who want Samo to prove to Gabe he's wrong etc etc. but given the way Samo babied Gabe for the longest time, I'm sure he just wanted some $. And if that's the case, then your entire " GO TO MISSISSIPPI AND BE A BALLER" argument is completely moot and pointless

and the "bitchy" post was just a culmination of Gabe ignoring him forever. At that point I'm sure Samo knew Gabe wasn't going to play anyway, so he was just going to tell him what he (and a lot of other people on here) really thought.
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08-17-2011 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I know I said that I wouldn't post here anymore, but I had respond to this since as far as I'm concerned is one of the very few intelligent objective thinkers on the entire thread. Most of what you said about Samo is exactly true & almost took the words from my mouth. The whole thing was very annoying in the way that he kept badgering the small details, I just wanted to say come down here when you get ready & lets play if were going to play or *** off if your going to be weird about it.

Anyway, I glad there are a couple of posters with some common sense to reason objectively & can see the mob mentality. It actually goes much deeper as I've posted & read this forum on & off for 8 or 9 years. What I've figured out is that anyone with a halfway sense of reasoning pretty leaves after making a few post because of the cult like illogical mentality of the NVGtards. That's why you will get swamped here by the sheeple.

Anyway I'm taking no offense to the other part about the online poker or my edge against top players because I completely understand that you don't believe that. However all I can say is both are true. I don't really expect anyone else to understand it without proof though. Thanks for having a voice of reason among a mound of idiots.

BTW, I can confirm Daliman is also a bit socially challenged & nerdy & I'm pretty sure there was a thread here discussing Samo playing professional soccer & several guys investigated it & it seemed that afterward, the majority of posters in the thread thought he made it up & was lying, so as weird as he is, who knows. I also responded to the poster who wanted to play & he if wants to without being weird or insulting, We will play.

GL
From our interaction, you certainly had no basis to say that, other than the fact that I'm not some rugged he-man specimen. A bit nerdy, I'll take, but actually quite socially adept, which I can't say quite applies to you although at least your GF handles herself somewhat better socially. Her hand analysis starting at 4:05 is priceless, btw. Just as her limp mid position/3bet/5bet allin move with ATo is underrated and underused, so is the limp/call out of position, lead/3bet/5bet bluff wet flop line. She is truly blazing new trails in poker.
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08-17-2011 , 05:20 PM
HOLY AWKWARDNESS
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08-17-2011 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Daliman
From our interaction, you certainly had no basis to say that, other than the fact that I'm not some rugged he-man specimen. A bit nerdy, I'll take, but actually quite socially adept, which I can't say quite applies to you although at least your GF handles herself somewhat better socially. Her hand analysis starting at 4:05 is priceless, btw. Just as her limp mid position/3bet/5bet allin move with ATo is underrated and underused, so is the limp/call out of position, lead/3bet/5bet bluff wet flop line. She is truly blazing new trails in poker.
that Costner interview clip is priceless. Putting his speech along side his posts makes them even that much more lol worthy.
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08-17-2011 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I also responded to the poster who wanted to play & he if wants to without being weird or insulting, We will play.

GL
so you will play him, as long as he doesn't ask you about the details or escrow or how it is going to be orchestrated. And you can ignore him for weeks and weeks while he tries to get it going. But yeah, you'll play him. he just can't talk to you to organize it otherwise he's being "Weird"
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08-17-2011 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
There is one thing to consider though. The problems in this thread stem from EDD backing out of his 'open challenge' of "I would play an online player any time in any setting". Now OP has been ridiculed for many things, most of what he deserves but I can see one very specific dynamic here: the internet forum socially awkward ******s nitpicking and breaking apart the statements of a random guy.

Let me elaborate;

I start a new thread about blonde girls with the following OP:
"Man I love blonde girls the most they are the dirtiest and they're willing to do anything blah blah blah....... I would **** a blonde girl anytime in any setting..."

Or perhaps a thread about steaks:
"Man i love steaks they are the juiciest meals available especially ones from Argentina blah blah blah........ i would eat a steak anytime in any setting"

Cars?:
"Man i love the new BMW 7 series they are the perfect combination of luxury and power blah blah blah...... i would drive a 7 series anytime in any setting"




My only question is after reading such a hypothetical thread would your first response be to accept my 'open challenge' and bet me that i cant **** a blonde girl after 5 bottles of vodka, or that i cant eat a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, or that i cant drive a 7 series and beat the record in Nurgburgring etc etc etc.

Now I know EDD has said some absurd things (80% favourite, online is rigged....) and he does deserve some **** for some of the things he says (my other post in this thread is actually asking for a fist fight with him ) but I can safely say as an objective observer of this thread, the scale of which Gabe appears 'delusional' is directly proportionate to the scale that the rest of the posters appear as pathetic nitpicking socially awkward nerds.

And btw I googled a picture of samoleus and if I was Gabe I wouldnt want to have anything to do with that guy either hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah. I mean think about it, some guy (looking like that to top it all off) constantly whining and whining 'whats the timeframe, whats the logistics, tell me the logistics, the logistics, im polite, when should i come, im very polite, what about escrow, what about this, what about that please respond respond respond please respond ive been nothing but polite" etc etc etc repeat to infinity. My reaction, as any normal person who doesnt give a flying **** who is who on some stupid forum, would be to say listen, if YOU want to play ME then ****ing come, if not then **** off and stop bothering me and talking ****. And if some guy looking like samoleus ever mouthed off to me, the guy would just be finished, simple as that.

This thread is just a nice piece of evidence of how much people can lose communication skills and common sense in the virtual world.

BTW, i would kick the **** out of any of you in any setting anytime, I really hope this is taken as an open challenge by you ******s as well

*waiting for request for logistics of the fight*



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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I know I said that I wouldn't post here anymore, but I had respond to this since as far as I'm concerned is one of the very few intelligent objective thinkers on the entire thread. Most of what you said about Samo is exactly true & almost took the words from my mouth. The whole thing was very annoying in the way that he kept badgering the small details, I just wanted to say come down here when you get ready & lets play if were going to play or *** off if your going to be weird about it.

Anyway, I glad there are a couple of posters with some common sense to reason objectively & can see the mob mentality. It actually goes much deeper as I've posted & read this forum on & off for 8 or 9 years. What I've figured out is that anyone with a halfway sense of reasoning pretty leaves after making a few post because of the cult like illogical mentality of the NVGtards. That's why you will get swamped here by the sheeple.

Anyway I'm taking no offense to the other part about the online poker or my edge against top players because I completely understand that you don't believe that. However all I can say is both are true. I don't really expect anyone else to understand it without proof though. Thanks for having a voice of reason among a mound of idiots.

BTW, I can confirm Daliman is also a bit socially challenged & nerdy & I'm pretty sure there was a thread here discussing Samo playing professional soccer & several guys investigated it & it seemed that afterward, the majority of posters in the thread thought he made it up & was lying, so as weird as he is, who knows. I also responded to the poster who wanted to play & he if wants to without being weird or insulting, We will play.

GL

way too good.


also, i'm leaning towards this thread being a level again.









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Originally Posted by Polov
I also responded to the poster who wanted to play & he if wants to without being weird or insulting, We will play.

i can safely say the match will never happen regardless of how hard Asa Akira tries to pander to 'All Talk'

seriously though, even though dfish and daliman (both of whom I believe everything they've posted) know the man, i have to believe this thread is now a level.



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Originally Posted by Ziplok
that Costner interview clip is priceless. Putting his speech along side his posts makes them even that much more lol worthy.

also this, which now that i just viewed the interview, puts me back at 50/50 whether or not this is the best level i've ever seen.
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08-17-2011 , 05:36 PM
holy potatoes that girls awkwardness is on the level of tom dwans awkwardness circa ~2007/08 combined with jungleman today * 10 and minus 100 iq points.
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08-17-2011 , 05:40 PM
Gabe coming back to respond that he was finally glad one person -- the guy with 15 posts -- had some sense and ability to reason in this thread, is gold as well.



officially the 3rd time Gabe has come back after declaring he will never post ITT again.
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08-17-2011 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziplok
that Costner interview clip is priceless. Putting his speech along side his posts makes them even that much more lol worthy.


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Originally Posted by exoendo
holy potatoes that girls awkwardness is on the level of tom dwans awkwardness circa ~2007/08 combined with jungleman today * 10 and minus 100 iq points.


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Taken from the site that someone posted earlier:

A person with narcissistic personality disorder may:

[x] React to criticism with rage, shame, or humiliation

[?] Take advantage of other people to achieve his or her own goals

[xxxxxxx] Have excessive feelings of self-importance

[xxxxxxx] Exaggerate achievements and talents

[x] Be preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence, or ideal love

[x] Have unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment

[x] Need constant attention and admiration

[?] Disregard the feelings of others, and have little ability to feel empathy

[x] Have obsessive self-interest

[?] Pursue mainly selfish goals
7/7 with 3/3 unsure.


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08-17-2011 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov

Ill spell it out, if samo wanted to put EDD in his place as he said he did and viewed 40k as too low a game for him as he once again said he did, the logical human would have just went to Biloxi and put EDD in his place by playing him or having him back out. You cant pretend one step that it was about the principle and then in the other that it was about money. Trying to secure an escrow by reposting the same message 30 times followed by a bitchy post which can only be forgiven if it was written by a woman on the rag, well thats once again a person with no balls, hence, samoleus grow some balls you c.u.n.t
The logical thing for samo to do would be to ensure the arrangements before flying halfway across the country to play some guy who is obviously a flake. (or a genius if this whole thing is a level) As it turned out, samo put EDD in his place and it cost him nothing but his time, since anybody can clearly see that EDD didn't want to play him and was looking for any excuse to back out.
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08-17-2011 , 06:03 PM
This one time at band camp I limp-called A5s.
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08-17-2011 , 06:07 PM
At least with Gabe, a mental disorder might excuse his ridiculous opinions....polov on the other hand, who can participate in arguing back and forth (although getting ridiculously owned by many), most likely doesn't have any actual disorder, so that means there's just no excuse for his stupidity.
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08-17-2011 , 06:16 PM
'Flying halfway across the country' hahaahahah you guys are so cute, how often do you leave your neighbourhoods? your homes? Let me explain, for people living normal lives being on a plane for a couple of hours and getting out in the same country IS NOT A BIG DEAL, you guys are acting like travelling from one state to another is some kind of serious trip needing massive organisation and 'details' 'details' 'details', further showing how much you guys are disconnected from reality. My only point is that samoleus went about this a very weird way and everyone just jumped on his dick as its easiest to do. I live in Europe and when I feel like it I **** off to another COUNTRY to just **** around for a bit if Im bored, in fact Im leaving for America tomorrow and I planned it less than how much samo tried to plan this whole scenario, it just goes to show how the intranet fools feel that what happens on here is important when people living in the real world know its actually a very simple process. I also love the excuses like 'maybe samo doesnt WANT to go to a place he doesnt know people, to play in a casino he doesnt know and stay at a nice hotel' well geuss what, these qualities you're describing that you also agree with and relate, its called being antisocial.


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I can see the stupidity.
Quick derail for some time while I read your posts, I think in the Girah thread, I was tilting like an ass, i couldnt believe there was such a guy who thought that his opinions were important, starting posts with "I disagree there, here I agree" as if anyone gives two ****s. But then I saw that you're a woman and it all made insta sense So you're cool in mah book

EDIT: Oh yeah and the whole disorder thing that welke mentions above me, yet another nice example of really weird antisocial people trying to figure out situations with no knowledge about people whatsoever, its things like this and calling Haseeb a 'sociopath' (HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA) that further shows how awkward you nerds are with dealing with others.

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