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Landon Tice lays 9bb to Perkins: HU challenge Landon Tice lays 9bb to Perkins: HU challenge

07-06-2021 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LoadingitUP
No.... ACR wanted to put a bet up and the S4Y dolts took a ladies broken English as they were trying to bet on it. Most likely was just Berkey trying to make excuses from jump because he knew Langdon was drawing dead at 9bbs/100 handicap.
He was prob trying to sabotage the match so it wouldn’t start, Berkey claimed he wasn’t backing him and just bet him in side bets, not sure who exactly was backing him but I feel if Landon only has 5/10% of himself then it was reckless to even start, Berkey tweeted that he will be in Tahoe for week and mostly offline, how convenient.
07-06-2021 , 01:06 AM
At least get his name right guys. There's no G in it, it's Lindon
07-06-2021 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by snowie963
I'm not here to discuss to unimportant things like how to spell a kids name. For all we know Langdon is his real name. What's more important is the kid gave up on the challenge and will probably slowly fade away from poker all together. I don't feel bad talking about him as he doesn't look at social media or let any negative posts from strangers online get to him.
Can we just ban this guy and be done with it? His last 3 posts ITT have confirmed he's a clown.
07-06-2021 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDanimal
Can we just ban this guy and be done with it? His last 3 posts ITT have confirmed he's a clown.
Pretty sure requesting a ban is more ban worthy than his posts.
07-06-2021 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by snowie963
I don't have anything against the queer community. I have seen queer as folk and Brokeback mountain multiple times. I am only calling him out because he is a disgrace to the community by staying closeted. This is a gossip forum after all. If I was a 20 year old poker prodigy I would be having fun with girls and winning at poker. Not losing at poker and bringing shame to the LGBTQ and poker community.
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Originally Posted by snowie963
I am not homophobic though. As in I enjoy hanging out with the gay people I know and nothing about their lifestyle bothers me. I have a nice young kid who works for me also who is openly gay. I am bothered by people who won't embrace being gay, such an Langdon.

Maybe you should fix your imagination.
these posts are pretty disgustingly insensitive, tbf.
07-06-2021 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SmbSmbSmb
these posts are pretty disgustingly insensitive, tbf.
Yea this guy deff has some issues
07-06-2021 , 01:39 AM
I'd rather not have to delete all the "questionable" recent posts commenting on a certain topic and possibly hand out temp-bans.

How about if we simply no longer post anything on that topic in this thread?

Thanks much.
07-06-2021 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TyroneSlothtrop
Some of you must be bitter as hell to be hating on Landon so hard over a silly match that ended in an equally silly way. I'm all for chirping the guy but this level of anger is some weird ****.
i agree to some extent, but the "tough talk w himself" deserves a lambasting. just a stream of thinly veiled excuses, talking about his "aura of being great" (lmao), saying what he thinks people want to hear; basically just a thirst trap for empaths. he obv loves the attn, everyone's just giving him what he wants. live by it die by it

i also have a feeling that wasn't the first take

edit: also it's lyndon guys
07-06-2021 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RA!Z0R RAM0N
i agree to some extent, but the "tough talk w himself" deserves a lambasting. just a stream of thinly veiled excuses, talking about his "aura of being great" (lmao), saying what he thinks people want to hear; basically just a thirst trap for empaths. he obv loves the attn, everyone's just giving him what he wants. live by it die by it

i also have a feeling that wasn't the first take

edit: also it's lyndon guys
I thought it was London?
07-06-2021 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
When you break down the numbers unless he's getting some insanely good intensive coaching as part of the deal it definitely would be hard to argue that it's a good deal. Higher stakes doesn't always mean higher hourly. He'd probably make significantly more grinding 500nl on a more favorable deal or his own money. It also seems unlikely that your last sentence is true. Highly doubt he's allowed to just blast through the 200k playing anything he wants and if he loses it there's no makeup.
There is no Make-Up, that was the entire point of the deal, I listened to Berkeys explanation of it.

He wasn't entirely specific on the deal mechanics but it sounded like as soon as the fund is over $500k (2.5x growth) then LT was able to cash out at 70/30 his favour. The concept is essentially that he's given the responsibility to run the bankroll as you would we're it your own 200k, when the roll is as its lowest the guys providing the capital take the biggest risks, and get the bigger cut, as the roll grows thevrisks drop and so do the shares.


Very good system imo, not designed for a player to be in yrs of backing, designed to ultimately 1) teach the player how to manage his bankroll properly and 2) retain his capital into his own play essentially building him a bankroll for when he quits.

Make up deals are the worst thing ever, this is smart imo
07-06-2021 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ty4thDime$
There is no Make-Up, that was the entire point of the deal, I listened to Berkeys explanation of it.



He wasn't entirely specific on the deal mechanics but it sounded like as soon as the fund is over $500k (2.5x growth) then LT was able to cash out at 70/30 his favour. The concept is essentially that he's given the responsibility to run the bankroll as you would we're it your own 200k, when the roll is as its lowest the guys providing the capital take the biggest risks, and get the bigger cut, as the roll grows thevrisks drop and so do the shares.





Very good system imo, not designed for a player to be in yrs of backing, designed to ultimately 1) teach the player how to manage his bankroll properly and 2) retain his capital into his own play essentially building him a bankroll for when he quits.



Make up deals are the worst thing ever, this is smart imo
The podcast he had pads on specifically mentions makeup in the deal I'm pretty sure.

Edit

OK so it turns out it's actually only when he withdraws some money as a salary that he would go into the red

Last edited by Tusdar; 07-06-2021 at 03:24 AM.
07-06-2021 , 03:15 AM
for all the fuss about Landon being unprepared and Perkins being much better than expected if you look at the results graph which shows the breakeven line accounting for the 9bb/100, Landon was ahead of pace for the majority of the challenge in both actual results and EV line. Then the last ~700 hands(two sessions?) of the total ~4,900 he drops down underneath and then him and his team give up.

Pretty weak stuff. I doubt Perkins improved immensely between the earlier sessions and the last two. Maybe it wasn't as smooth of a ride as his team had expected but they gave up at the first sign of adversity.
07-06-2021 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cneuy3
for all the fuss about Landon being unprepared and Perkins being much better than expected if you look at the results graph which shows the breakeven line accounting for the 9bb/100, Landon was ahead of pace for the majority of the challenge in both actual results and EV line. Then the last ~700 hands(two sessions?) of the total ~4,900 he drops down underneath and then him and his team give up.

Pretty weak stuff. I doubt Perkins improved immensely between the earlier sessions and the last two. Maybe it wasn't as smooth of a ride as his team had expected but they gave up at the first sign of adversity.
Probably just normal math stuff. Maybe they ran a bunch of math stuff and figured that Landon was running hot and that his true evbb was in fact around 3bb/100 (total baseless speculation).

Well... then they have to run 15k more hands losing 6bb/100 to someone that is "uncoachable" while Perkins continues to close in on a skill gap. Maybe they didn't even like dealing with him as a person and some part of it was out of spite?

If they then figured they were losing the 200k sidebet a large portion of the time anyway, the added evbb/100 loss didn't make any sense to continue operations.

It's also in this case of quitting entirely up to the backers and not up to Landon. It's one of the major drawbacks to getting 97% backed on the challenge. The backers simply won't give a **** about your image / reputation as one of the functions as a consequence of quitting early.
07-06-2021 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TyroneSlothtrop
Some of you must be bitter as hell to be hating on Landon so hard over a silly match that ended in an equally silly way. I'm all for chirping the guy but this level of anger is some weird ****.
People love to see others fail man especially at **** they've never had the chance to do.

Poker world is so ****ing dumb sometimes as if nothing exists outside of it.
07-06-2021 , 04:28 AM


This aged well...
07-06-2021 , 04:29 AM
07-06-2021 , 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LuckyFuc1ker


This aged well...
clickr will be under 21 still next year right?
07-06-2021 , 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
Really looking forward to this pod.
07-06-2021 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Femton
This is more embarrassing to Joey than anyone else imo. Reminds me of that whole Haseeb/jungleman/Macedo disaster.

It's dangerous to start hyping a kid like that. They are usually not ready for whatever comes with it.

Good job Bill Perkins!
I like Joey in general, but he has pumped up more than a few problematic people in different spaces. Sasha is pretty bad at PLO, and played the worst hand of PLO I have ever seen, which I actually to a picture of for posterity. At least one cute girl who was pushing herself as a sports betting expert that was trying to hustle for tips for her tips, (and likely succeeding), and some cringey self-help dudebro that parrots standard self help crap with a large portion of misogyny and bible thumping, and now Landon. These are only the ones I am familiar with, I'm sure there's others problematic disciples/etc.
07-06-2021 , 04:59 AM
Joey is similar to crypto pumpers.

Seems Langdons coach talking back some of the stuff he said.
07-06-2021 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tusdar
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Please do not ever compare Landon Tice to Tom Dwan. Tom was owning the best HU players in the world at 19, put in the best session performance in televised poker history on his first HSP appearance, and has done it at the highest stakes ever played. Yes, Tom didn't finish a challenge vs Jungleman, but that was a Full Tilt promotion, so I'm fine with it dying when FT died.
07-06-2021 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Daliman
Please do not ever compare Landon Tice to Tom Dwan. Tom was owning the best HU players in the world at 19, put in the best session performance in televised poker history on his first HSP appearance, and has done it at the highest stakes ever played. Yes, Tom didn't finish a challenge vs Jungleman, but that was a Full Tilt promotion, so I'm fine with it dying when FT died.
Bro that's was a reply to another comment saying we'll even see if labdon is around in 5 years which is what hellmith said to dwan in that pic. Obv landon doesn't == dwan.
07-06-2021 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Daliman
Please do not ever compare Landon Tice to Tom Dwan. Tom was owning the best HU players in the world at 19, put in the best session performance in televised poker history on his first HSP appearance, and has done it at the highest stakes ever played. Yes, Tom didn't finish a challenge vs Jungleman, but that was a Full Tilt promotion, so I'm fine with it dying when FT died.
Hi Tom!
07-06-2021 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by theskillzdatklls
Really looking forward to this pod.
07-06-2021 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Tusdar
Bro that's was a reply to another comment saying we'll even see if labdon is around in 5 years which is what hellmith said to dwan in that pic. Obv landon doesn't == dwan.
Alright fair point. Post intent withdrawn and props given for an excellent reference I had forgotten about.

      
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