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02-23-2015 , 02:26 AM
I really feel like this blog post main goal was helping Howard lederer to get back into the poker world.He just wrote a long blog not saying much beside that theres good chance Howard plays next wsop and that he should be allowed to.

Im really aint sure about what happened behind the scene for daniel to do this but something has happened imo.hes also backing Chris ferguson.
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02-23-2015 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by heat555
I want Kid Poker banned from Pokerstars emails.
this
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02-23-2015 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by efra
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Within 1 year he'll be dropped from Stars imo. He's no longer worth his salary compared to what others could provide considering the revenue he does draw for Stars.

On a personal note I'd be glad to see him gone so he can truly speak his mind and express himself the way he truly wants to.
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02-23-2015 , 03:18 AM
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In come PokerStars to save the day, and [FTP] players have been made whole as far as I'm aware.
I guess he isn't paying very close attention. I know I'm not the only one who still hasn't seen a dime of their FTP funds. Without getting into the issues of why or who is at fault for the years of delays and still no resolution, it is surprising that Danial can be unaware of this fact and think that players have been "made whole."
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02-23-2015 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmr
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I guess he isn't paying very close attention. I know I'm not the only one who still hasn't seen a dime of their FTP funds. Without getting into the issues of why or who is at fault for the years of delays and still no resolution, it is surprising that Danial can be unaware of this fact and think that players have been "made whole."
Furthermore the "purchase" was part of a fine to the DOJ for operating in the States during at best "questionable" years. It wasn't done out of charity to players.
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02-23-2015 , 04:41 AM
Daniel has made it expressly clear that facts don't matter when it comes to forming an opinion and making brash statements.
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02-23-2015 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
daniel's point is mainly, we can't get rid of every scumbag, it's impossible to enforce b/c there's more of them than everyone else.
multiaccounting in the same tournament is basically men the master if he went online.

I think he's wrong though regarding the site people; the full tilt group cheated at poker worse than anyone else ever has, they claimed there was money on the table! (when there wasn't). I don't understand the distinction between someone cheating with respect to the card and with respect to the chips.

(I do agree that borrowing disputes or most other stuff is not poker's problem, that's between what they owe and who they owe but if we're basing it off integrity of the game I don't see a difference)

It is absolutely insulting when daniel says the FT main guys never cheated anyone at the poker table when we were all cheated at the poker table on that site.
Well i think people that are waiting for their money from lock-poker do not agree with you.
And that site is still on-line, and some people are waiting up to 2 year for their withdrawal.

And the owner[s] are nowhere to be found, i think that jennifer larson is going to be a big contender[aldo the amount is not near to full-tilt]

All you need to read is the first post and the last 15 pages.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../index222.html
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02-23-2015 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Cliffs?
If yo believe PrivateWorld, Howard has some dirt on Daniel that would be quite damaging if it got out.
This.

I don't even know who PrivateWorld is and I know he is right.



Any decent poker player should be able to easily tell that negreanu is a shady dude. It is so blatantly obvious that his good personality at the poker table and during interviews is nothing more than an act. And there is clearly an undercurrent of him being shady. Very easy to spot IMO.

Last edited by AZcats; 02-23-2015 at 10:11 AM.
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02-23-2015 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by maverick6972
DN's post reminds of the episode of south park smug alert.
Wrong episode to compare Daniel too. The right episode to compare him too is when their was a lice outbreak but nobody knew who had lice. And cartman goes hard at Kenny about having lice to keep any heat off himself about actually having lice.

But then they all have lice... Which is probably the reality with all the name pros.

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02-23-2015 , 10:14 AM
This isn't the 1890's , people don't die when they are 31. He should have dropped the name "kid" years ago. A "kid" with hair plugs is just awkward.

I was at the Rio riding down in an elevator with him. He wouldn't stfu talking to this little kid thinking the kid was all awstruck at Daniel's fame.... little kid had no clue who he was.
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02-23-2015 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
What the WSOP needs is some kind of 'ethics committee', made up of lovely, well trusted poker players.
That would be epic.
It's gonna be a REALLY small committee.
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02-23-2015 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall28
It just was a way different game back then. Multi-accounting was just way less of a big deal because people weren't so good that many would dodge action from others. Everyone was playing everyone and most people didn't really have much of a clue what they were doing. Obviously multiple entrants into the same tournament was always considered bad, but playing multiple accounts just was only frowned upon. It wasn't such an advantage back then because like I said, people weren't that good anyways (and everyone was winning so much that no one really cared a whole lot).

I don't condone multi accounting at all and think it's definitely cheating today though. Wanted to make that clear.
What Justin Bonomo did was 100% cold blooded cheating and he was banned from Stars for awhile over it. I think less of Stars for letting him back on the site.

When a player constantly plays many accounts in tournaments, eventually he will end up with two or three or more of his accounts at the same table. How much better will the player play looking at the hole cards of multiple accounts in the same game?

if he had been playing multiple accounts in the same cash game more people would immediately see the problem... similar to two players in a cash game skyping their hole cards back and forth to each other and playing the same money to boot.

This was not a case of a player having multiple accounts that never played in the same game with each other as some seem to think.

It is not like a young man one time ended up with his accounts in the same game and said all on his own... "gee, I never really thought about this happening before, I will not do it again."

While Justin (after being caught) did make public appolgies, he never to my knowledge asked if there was any way to make some sort of restitution to his victims- tho i can not think how it would be possible as this racquet went on for a long time and affected many players in many tournaments.

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02-23-2015 , 02:29 PM
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What Justin Bonomo did was 100% cold blooded cheating and he was banned from Stars for awhile over it. I think less of Stars for letting him back on the site.

When a player constantly plays many accounts in tournaments, eventually he will end up with two or three or more of his accounts at the same table. How much better will the player play looking at the hole cards of multiple accounts in the same game?

if he had been playing multiple accounts in the same cash game more people would immediately see the problem... similar to two accounts in a cash game skyping their hole cards back and forth to each other and playing the same money to boot.

This was not a case of a player having multiple accounts that never played in the same game witH each other as some seem to think.
yeah but when he found himself at the same table as himself he added more tables to distract himself...






...so it's cool.

Last edited by KillTheCheaters; 02-23-2015 at 02:31 PM. Reason: I think Tico would agree
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02-23-2015 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AZcats
Any decent poker player should be able to easily tell that negreanu is a shady dude. It is so blatantly obvious that his good personality at the poker table and during interviews is nothing more than an act. And there is clearly an undercurrent of him being shady. Very easy to spot IMO.
I've never thought of him as being shady so much as just being wildly insecure.
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02-23-2015 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sthief09
I've never thought of him as being shady so much as just being wildly insecure.
+1
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02-23-2015 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wormmis11
This isn't the 1890's , people don't die when they are 31. He should have dropped the name "kid" years ago. A "kid" with hair plugs is just awkward.

I was at the Rio riding down in an elevator with him. He wouldn't stfu talking to this little kid thinking the kid was all awstruck at Daniel's fame.... little kid had no clue who he was.
Look at this kid.
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02-23-2015 , 04:02 PM
As we are talking about the WORLD series of poker, the RIO should be turning ppl away if he/she has a felony conviction, that would be a start like most sports bodies do, but also i believe that the same rules should apply to all players, hence if Mr overseas can't get a visa to enter the USA/ wsop then those same rules should apply to players from the USA too. i.e if ure conviction would not let u get a visa to enter the states then u should be banned from THE WORLD SERIES OFF POKER.

MAC
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02-23-2015 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
What the WSOP needs is some kind of 'ethics committee', made up of lovely, well trusted poker players.
That would be epic.
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02-23-2015 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tuccotrading
This was not a case of a player having multiple accounts that never played in the same game with each other as some seem to think.

It is not like a young man one time ended up with his accounts in the same game and said all on his own... "gee, I never really thought about this happening before, I will not do it again."
Wasn't aware of that. I don't actually know him personally or anything. Thx for the info though.
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02-23-2015 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
As we are talking about the WORLD series of poker, the RIO should be turning ppl away if he/she has a felony conviction, that would be a start like most sports bodies do, but also i believe that the same rules should apply to all players, hence if Mr overseas can't get a visa to enter the USA/ wsop then those same rules should apply to players from the USA too. i.e if ure conviction would not let u get a visa to enter the states then u should be banned from THE WORLD SERIES OFF POKER.

MAC
Got a conviction by any chance?
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02-23-2015 , 11:52 PM
I disagree with much of the Daniel hate being spewed by randoms here. I've known DN off and on for 20 years. He isn't shady at all. I first ran across him back in RGP days when he was calling Annie out for her bad behavior, and he cited specific examples that were entirely consistent with behavior I saw from her. He doesn't like her one bit, but his professional judgment is that she shouldn't be banned. Like him personally or not, he's willing to call it like he sees it. BTW, his personality isn't an act -- in direct contrast to Hellmuth. Danny is largely genuine, IMO. He's opinionated and not always consistent, but he's willing to change his views if you give him facts he doesn't know. And he's approachable and above-the-board. What's not to like?
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02-24-2015 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by heat555
I want Kid Poker banned from Pokerstars emails.
This
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02-24-2015 , 07:29 AM
Anyone with half a brain cell knows the whole gambling industry is corrupt.
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02-24-2015 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall28
I don't condone multi accounting at all and think it's definitely cheating today though. Wanted to make that clear.


So wait, using a different account for the purpose of hiding your identity is cheating but using a computer to calculate odds and act as your memory is totally legit?
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02-24-2015 , 12:08 PM
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Wasn't aware of that. I don't actually know him personally or anything. Thx for the info though.
Bonomo is also a world-class asshat prone to blow up over super stupid things.
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