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02-21-2015 , 12:42 PM
By the time anyone gets around to banning individual players poker will have long since died. Time for all "pros" to find a new profession.
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02-21-2015 , 12:46 PM
Daniel only calls for the ban of two players: Russ Hamilton and Mansour Matloubi. Somehow, I can't imagine these two are heading to the rio his summer.
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02-21-2015 , 01:07 PM
Do others here agree with that assessment or should others be banned as well?
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02-21-2015 , 01:11 PM
i don't really care about what daniel thinks
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02-21-2015 , 01:12 PM
Is there even a ban list for known cheaters?
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02-21-2015 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pflwardog
Do others here agree with that assessment or should others be banned as well?
I imagine it would be difficult for Daniel to demand a ban for Anni Duke, while backing Eric Lindgren.
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02-21-2015 , 01:19 PM
I'm indifferent about DN, but something bugs me about his post on this, It's like he feels he is the moral compass for all of poker. What a great guy DN is for throwing a bone Howard's way.

It kinda reminds me of Helmuth, completely lost self awareness and being humble.
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02-21-2015 , 01:29 PM
Isnt Russ Hamilton considered "old school" though?
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02-21-2015 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJacob
Is there even a ban list for known cheaters?
Casino black book or watever it's called is it I suppose.
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02-21-2015 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerFan2008
I'm indifferent about DN, but something bugs me about his post on this, It's like he feels he is the moral compass for all of poker. What a great guy DN is for throwing a bone Howard's way.

It kinda reminds me of Helmuth, completely lost self awareness and being humble.
He's giving his opinion in his blog. What else would you get while visiting his blog?
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02-21-2015 , 01:49 PM
I want Kid Poker banned from Pokerstars emails.
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02-21-2015 , 01:55 PM
DN's post reminds of the episode of south park smug alert. People do make mistakes in life, in poker , in business. The problem with Howard is he along with his sister think they know everything , when in reality they just make up a load of rubbish and try and sound intelligent. Some people have even made a living out of it, i wont say who, as it might get me banned from this forum .

As Doyle said poker players make terrible business people and he is right there.

DN is no more than a poker stars puppet , his antics on screen are put on for television, I don't think he is a bad person but he is very misguided with his views and thinks he's God within poker, along with Hellmuth.

A lot of this was a poker stars promotional speech, 'in come poker stars to save the day', where they have the most reg infested site, with even some of the better players being break even as the variance in there huge field mtts is absurd.

His post also sounds very childish, you can play but you cant play. **** it there all dead money in todays games, so let them on in. Might give some of the ****ing money back they stole
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02-21-2015 , 02:02 PM
To me, this was the most interesting part of the blog:

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Once the news broke that FTP was insolvent, based on sources I've spoken to, Howard spent every day trying to find a way to get the players paid. Many of the owners didn't agree with the direction Howard wanted to take the company, but it seemed to be a consensus that Howard's main purpose and motivation was to get the players paid.
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02-21-2015 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cetacean
To me, this was the most interesting part of the blog:
Wow that does seem to be a complete 180 from all of those Rants he had on youtube where Howard was the main target of DN's verbal wrath.

Is this PS pushing DN to cleanse Howard and others of their crimes?

Is this DN trying to clear the way for Lindgren to be able to compete without getting much flack from others?
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02-21-2015 , 02:22 PM
If yo believe PrivateWorld, Howard has some dirt on Daniel that would be quite damaging if it got out. This is how he explains the long silence about Howard. Makes some sense when followed by this blog.
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02-21-2015 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cetacean
To me, this was the most interesting part of the blog:Quote:

Once the news broke that FTP was insolvent, based on sources I've spoken to, Howard spent every day trying to find a way to get the players paid. Many of the owners didn't agree with the direction Howard wanted to take the company, but it seemed to be a consensus that Howard's main purpose and motivation was to get the players paid.
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The best FTP solution would have been not to divert (steal) the players money in the first place.


Where did hundreds of millions of player money go?

1. The largest amount was paid to the owners as dividends. This went on for years and was not a onetime glitch or mistake.

Dividends are never supposed to be paid from money a business is trusted to hold and keep safe for other people.

2. Players money was loaned to friends and allies; very large and imprudent loans at that.

3. Players money was spent on overly lavish business expenses and handed to sponsored pros one way or another.

4. Phantom deposits were allowed for a long period of time. Had FTP taken the honest route and announced to the world that no US citizen would be allowed to deposit via their bank,
there would have been a traffic jam of worried US players trying to cash out. FTP simply did not have enough of the players money left to pay everyone..... panic; run on the bank; exposure, and so on.

"Once the news broke that FTP was insolvent..." Only a totally complete idiot would not have worked very hard to find a buyer for FTP at that point.

Last edited by tuccotrading; 02-21-2015 at 03:00 PM.
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02-21-2015 , 02:40 PM
i for the most part disagree with a lot of stuff daniel has said in the past, that being said, with the amount of overt issues the people he has listed have within the poker world, i personally find it completely reasonable to ban them, as far as im concerned most of them should be in jail right now anyways
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02-21-2015 , 02:48 PM
this guy does an amazing job of always being talked about.
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02-21-2015 , 02:49 PM
When I saw the title of the blog, first thing I think is ... okay well if you're going to write this blog post I don't see how Erick Lindgren isn't at the top of the list...

Then I originally thought it was ironic to see Negreanu condemn 85%!!! of poker players for doing the same thing that Lindgren did and assuming they fall into the same category. (Way to stick up and be a positive voice for the poker community Daniel!)

I suppose it wasn't ironic at all though since the post was >85% self serving.
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02-21-2015 , 02:50 PM
[QUOTE=pflwardog;46175771]Wow that does seem to be a complete 180 from all of those Rants he had on youtube where Howard was the main target of DN's verbal wrath.


Yeah, something has DN changing course on Howard, The fact is, Howard was at the helm of FT when the decision was made not to keep player funds segregated. Let's not attempt to rewrite history DN
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02-21-2015 , 03:10 PM
I would have been impressed had any Board member:

Asked for a vote on a resolution stating that no one get paid "dividends" while the players money was not 100% in the company coffers.

That no unnecessary expenses (like loaning money to degenerate gamblers) be made.

And that they were calling for future segregation of funds.

or

Gone public saying that the company had just gone slightly negative on players money and that they would voluntarily not take dividends or salary until this situation was remedied...

further saying they could not get others to vote for a dividend suspension, expense cutback, and future segregation of funds- if that was the case.
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02-21-2015 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by maverick6972
DN's post reminds of the episode of south park smug alert.
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02-21-2015 , 05:50 PM
I was made whole by Full Tilt? That's news to me.
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02-21-2015 , 06:01 PM
Nice of DN to take yet another shot at Duke and Lederer under the guise of absolving them, while completely leaving scumbags like Lindgren out of his list.
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