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07-13-2011 , 04:32 PM
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07-13-2011 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by breadandbutter
Wow, you've got a lot of negativity and hate inside you sir. Is there anything you get positive feelings about(without hating it later!)? What caused you to feel so bad? Is it your life? Oh I know, it's that "everything was so much better in the past" cynical thing right? I wish you the best of luck with your problems.
What the hell are you even talking about?

I think the pharmacist is ready with your prescriptions.
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07-13-2011 , 04:50 PM
I think a lot of people here are just disappointed to see Jared playing horrendously. We obviously all wanted him to do well but I think it's pretty fair and objective to say that he is simply playing awful poker.

The concept of the show is such a brilliant idea though, I don't think enough LCs to this point realized that they can make certain plays based on the advantage they have by everybody knowing that they only keep what's above 100k and they only have 150 hands to do it. You can really mess with the pros mind sometimes and get them to make plays they normally wouldn't. I don't even understand what Jared is waiting for though...
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07-13-2011 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Big80s Hair

Bring back Rick Salomon.... Would of loved to have Salomon & Nano in this week booting Prahlad and Selbst.

holy ****. How the hell do I essentially live poker for two years, 2+2 is bound to be my most visited site and I just found out that rick salomon is actually serious poker player.
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07-13-2011 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Misohoni
People with balls dont sell water on the street
and Amanda looked much better than before dunno what happened to her
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07-13-2011 , 04:58 PM
ok so i think i think it is understandable that someone who comes from having pretty much nothing would find it somewhat overwelming to be sat in the big game.

also nerves can get the better of anyone in that situation - no matter who you are. that being said he does seem to be playing somewhat weak tight poker. 99 fold was bad as was the 54 fold IMHO. that being said i hope he can turn it around and make a profit before the end of the show.

but it is hard to get action if you play that tight (as barry g's top pair fold shows..)

i'd do vanessa any way even if she is gay. she'd prolly try and beat me up though but i might like that

lol. gl jared man - played against you a few times on bodog back in the day (inhale slow right??) dont take it too bad if it doesnt work out though

gl
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07-13-2011 , 05:04 PM
He doesn't look overly nervous to me tbh. Perhaps a little but not more than anyone would be. The hands I have seen him play he seems composed, takes his time, and decides what he is doing.
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07-13-2011 , 05:05 PM
Maybe he thinks he gets to keep whatever money is left after the 150 hands?
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07-13-2011 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Krax
holy ****. How the hell do I essentially live poker for two years, 2+2 is bound to be my most visited site and I just found out that rick salomon is actually serious poker player.
Foe a serious poker player, he sure giggles alot....
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07-13-2011 , 05:06 PM
I'd probably giggle a lot if I had done some of the stuff I heard he has.
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07-13-2011 , 05:09 PM
2+2 was bwhi d
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07-13-2011 , 05:12 PM
Jared is a drooler...awkward personality and creepy look too.
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07-13-2011 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Micro Rec Player
Seems pretty clear him and Antonio Esfandiari made a few quid from the watch manufacturer also!
Exactly how do you come to this conclusion?

Antonio is definitely a watch-enthusiast, he clearly made a friendly jokingly remark about his watch when he first saw Jared's. Im quite the enthusiast myself when it comes to watches, and I dont mind commenting other peoples watches if I find them interesting.

That said, Jared isn't wearing the same watch, its just of similar shape, im sure Antonios watch is in the 20k+ range, where as Jareds probably something of icedoutgear dot com
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07-13-2011 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Robusto
Exactly how do you come to this conclusion?
Pure speculation mainly, piqued by the random way they are bought up at various points through out the show by one or the other of them. The fact JH randomly mentions they are made by the guy who does wsop bracelets. How else would JH have one to wear? Really? Figure it out it isn't difficult. I don't have a problem with it if he did by the way.
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07-13-2011 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Micro Rec Player
Pure speculation mainly, piqued by the random way they are bought up at various points through out the show by one or the other of them. The fact JH randomly mentions they are made by the guy who does wsop bracelets. How else would JH have one to wear? Really? Figure it out it isn't difficult. I don't have a problem with it if he did by the way.
Pretty sure it was only Antonio, who said his watch was made by that guy.
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07-13-2011 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Micro Rec Player
He doesn't look overly nervous to me tbh. Perhaps a little but not more than anyone would be. The hands I have seen him play he seems composed, takes his time, and decides what he is doing.

Yeah, he takes an awful long time to come to the wrong conclusion. Maybe I'm giving people too much credit, but it's hard to believe that any semi serious poker player wouldn't bet 99 on 783 (or whatever it was) flop.

He's done nothing but call/fold with the exception KK when Barry laid down top pair.

Jarred would honestly have a better chance going all in blind until a bust or a double up.
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07-13-2011 , 05:44 PM
Well I thought they said they were both made by the same person. If I misheard that then of course I stand corrected. Like I said, I didn't have a problem with it anyway...
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07-13-2011 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by butterfly pony
agree with rushmore^

despite the theory being the show, it rarely seems like the loose cannon ever generates the excitement which everyone was going on about

3 things need to happen before the loose cannon at hand 125+ go crazy:

1. they dont bust
2. they're not on some big profit they're looking to protect
3. they're smart enough to realise how the format should change their strategy

why in 2 seasons has this never happened
Pot-limit preflop limits any wild craziness. The main gamble spot in poker is preflop, but the cannon can't just go "weee all-in" with any 2 preflop, he can just build a moderate pot, then hope he flops SOMETHING to get it in with, which isn't going to happen much at all.
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07-13-2011 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WutRUTryin2Hit
Pot-limit preflop limits any wild craziness. The main gamble spot in poker is preflop, but the cannon can't just go "weee all-in" with any 2 preflop, he can just build a moderate pot, then hope he flops SOMETHING to get it in with, which isn't going to happen much at all.
Yah, but, postflop if you're drawing to the nuts why not just move all in instead of calling? It's such a ridiculously +EV play and it never happens.
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07-13-2011 , 05:59 PM
he should tell the table his masturbation story from when he was living out of his car
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07-13-2011 , 06:09 PM
Okay, so as someone who paid almost no attention to the previous Huggins threads, I will tell you people who are like "what is with 90% of you??" and "everyone here is jealous" why people like me think this is dumb.

First, this guy is a fish. It doesn't make him a bad person, but he is bad at poker. You can say "but he's sitting in front of 100k", but his mind just obviously doesn't work like a winning poker player's would, he doesn't see a +EV spot and go "ok, I will do [+EV ACTION] now", he just thinks in some weird non-poker-player fish way that I can't even comprehend. The fact that he supposedly got free coaching from great players and still is THIS bad is telling: the guy just was not cut out for poker and should not be considered antyhing close to a good poker player.

Have you ever sat at some soft online table on a friday night and there are 3 huge fish limping J8, but they chat as if they're good, use terms like equity and variance, etc? I used to be like "who are these guys, does not compute!". Well, it's guys like him, and just by the fact he comes on 2p2 and says "lost my roll vs a drooler", people go "oh he talks our language, he's a reg/pro!".

ANYHOW. I am assuming that everyone here saying "this guy didn't hustle anyone, read the thread!" is just young and/or naive, or are there INSANELY DRAMATIC parts of this guy's story I don't get??? I mean, seriously, he was homeless for a while, that's his story right? I am not missing some interesting part of it? And he went and begged with a FREE HUGS sign? That is it right, I'm not missing anything?

When I was 17 I may have thought this was interesting or impressive. Maybe. But guys, there are literally MILLIONS of people who have had it worse than him, for reasons even farther out of their control. I am pretty surprised that the normal jaded 2p2 crowd especially fell for the "oh wow he's just a genuinely positive, nice person" thing... do you guys watch Oprah all the time or something? Do you read new age self-help books? His schtick is SO standard.. in fact it's way substandard for people doing the whole "life is great, things might get hard but life is good!" thing.

Honestly, I am probably missing something where he pulled someone out of a fire, or did some good deeds, or did anything remotely interesting other than becoming homeless, begging with a sign, publicizing this all on the internet, then reaping the rewards.

Now don't get me wrong, I am NOT saying he's a bad guy, I just think all the people defending him SO MUCH in here and giving him so much money, it is just weird, you guys are so naive. I don't think he's a scammer or anything, but he has definitely hustled you all, no matter how nice he is.
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07-13-2011 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by slicktorine
Yah, but, postflop if you're drawing to the nuts why not just move all in instead of calling? It's such a ridiculously +EV play and it never happens.
I agree, I am just saying it's way harder to find spots to get huge money in postflop with 20 hands to go. You just aren't drawing the nuts very often in holdem. Plus, if you are, you still have to find someone who will call your shove.. if you have a 60k stack, someone cbets 2k, and you shove with a flush draw, if the other guy folds, you just win a 2k pot and are still under 100k, so this accomplishes nothing. That's why there's no action.

The last cannon I remember who was under 100k near the end, he kept raising, and all the pros just kept flatting him. Noone 3bet cause they knew he'd 4bet, and then he had to see every flop ~5 ways. Not much the guy do if he has 78s and whiffs completely, he can MAAAAYBE steal a small pot, but he can never win a big one.

They could help by changing the preflop betting limit on the last x hands to be no-limit or double pot limit or something.
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07-13-2011 , 06:14 PM
^^ Awesome rant
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07-13-2011 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WutRUTryin2Hit
I agree, I am just saying it's way harder to find spots to get huge money in postflop with 20 hands to go. You just aren't drawing the nuts very often in holdem. Plus, if you are, you still have to find someone who will call your shove.. if you have a 60k stack, someone cbets 2k, and you shove with a flush draw, if the other guy folds, you just win a 2k pot and are still under 100k, so this accomplishes nothing. That's why there's no action.

The last cannon I remember who was under 100k near the end, he kept raising, and all the pros just kept flatting him. Noone 3bet cause they knew he'd 4bet, and then he had to see every flop ~5 ways. Not much the guy do if he has 78s and whiffs completely, he can MAAAAYBE steal a small pot, but he can never win a big one.

They could help by changing the preflop betting limit on the last x hands to be no-limit or double pot limit or something.
There are plenty of time when the LC is drawing to what might not be the nuts, but would surely be the best hand. The way the format is the loose cannon should almost NEVER be calling, raise or fold. Busting is no worse than losing a dollar, the play should reflect that and it doesn't.

It's like these guys don't want to look "bad" in front of the pros. The chances of you outplaying the table over 150 hands for a significant profit is pretty close to zero. The chances of you making a significant amount of money over 150 hands by playing loose and aggressive is much higher.

Besides it's not like you can't just fold your way to glory after doubling up through one of the pros.
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07-13-2011 , 06:27 PM
Also, it seems that he is having a lot of trouble adjusting the strength of his starting hand to the 6 max format.
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