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01-16-2020 , 06:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pastis
PokerStars - Hold'em Cash Games - $50/100 Blinds - 4 Players
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pokerkluka (BB): $11,377
Stefan11222 (CO): $13,397.35
Iimitless (BTN): $13,630.06
BigBlindBets (SB): $27,198.78

Pre-flop:
Stefan11222 raises to $350, Iimitless raises to $1,150, (2 folds), Stefan11222 calls $800

Flop: ($2,530) 6 6 3 (2 Players)
Stefan11222 checks, Iimitless bets $708.10, Stefan11222 raises to $2,066.20, Iimitless calls $1,358.10

Turn: ($6,662.40) 7 (2 Players)
Stefan11222 bets $3,329.70, Iimitless calls $3,329.70

River: ($13,321.80) 2 (2 Players)
Stefan11222 bets $6,831.45 and is all-in, Iimitless calls $6,831.45
Stefan11222 Showed Q A
Iimitless Showed A Q
Stefan11222 wins $13,490.85 with a pair of Sixes
Iimitless wins $13,490.85 with a pair of Sixes
01-16-2020 , 06:42 AM
lol this hand
01-16-2020 , 06:42 AM
I love kanu
01-16-2020 , 06:44 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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ActionFreak (SB): $11,295.00 (113 bb)
LLinusLLove (BB): $19,643.08 (196 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
ActionFreak (SB) raises to $300, LLinusLLove (BB) calls $200

Flop: ($600) 5 T 8 (2 players)
LLinusLLove (BB) checks, ActionFreak (SB) checks

Turn: ($600) 2 (2 players)
LLinusLLove (BB) bets $597.50, ActionFreak (SB) raises to $2,031.50, LLinusLLove (BB) raises to $6,692, ActionFreak (SB) raises to $10,995 (all-in), LLinusLLove (BB) calls $4,303

First River: ($22,590) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Second River: ($22,590) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $22,590 (Rake: $2.50)

First Showdown: Board: 5 T 8 2 9

ActionFreak (SB) shows 2 2 5 J (three of a kind, Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 31%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%)

LLinusLLove (BB) shows 5 K 5 8 (three of a kind, Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 69%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%)

LLinusLLove (BB) wins $11,293.75

Second Showdown: Board: 5 T 8 2 3

ActionFreak (SB) shows 2 2 5 J (three of a kind, Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 31%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%)

LLinusLLove (BB) shows 5 K 5 8 (three of a kind, Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 69%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%)

LLinusLLove (BB) wins $11,293.75
01-16-2020 , 07:05 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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ActionFreak (SB): $16,663.84 (167 bb)
LLinusLLove (BB): $37,777.92 (378 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
ActionFreak (SB) raises to $300, LLinusLLove (BB) 3-bets to $900, ActionFreak (SB) calls $600

Flop: ($1,800) 7 A 3 (2 players)
LLinusLLove (BB) bets $716.73, ActionFreak (SB) calls $716.73

Turn: ($3,233.46) 9 (2 players)
LLinusLLove (BB) checks, ActionFreak (SB) checks

River: ($3,233.46) 2 (2 players)
LLinusLLove (BB) checks, ActionFreak (SB) bets $3,230.96, LLinusLLove (BB) calls $3,230.96

Total pot: $9,695.38 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
ActionFreak (SB) shows Q 3 6 5 (a pair of Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 42%, Flop: 54%, Turn: 43%, River: 0%)

LLinusLLove (BB) shows J 9 J 7 (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 58%, Flop: 46%, Turn: 58%, River: 100%)

LLinusLLove (BB) wins $9,692.88
01-16-2020 , 07:07 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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LLinusLLove (SB): $16,080.12 (161 bb)
ActionFreak (BB): $10,756.42 (108 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $300, ActionFreak (BB) 3-bets to $900, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $600

Flop: ($1,800) 3 K 4 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) bets $593.18, LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $1,518.18, ActionFreak (BB) raises to $6,352.04, LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $15,180.12 (all-in), ActionFreak (BB) calls $3,504.38 (all-in)

First Turn: ($21,512.84) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

First River: ($21,512.84) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Second Turn: ($21,512.84) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Second River: ($21,512.84) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $21,512.84 (Rake: $2.50)

First Showdown: Board: 3 K 4 8 7

LLinusLLove (SB) shows K 2 4 5 (two pair, Kings and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 28%, Turn: 18%, River: 0%)

ActionFreak (BB) shows A 9 K K (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 72%, Turn: 83%, River: 100%)

ActionFreak (BB) wins $10,755.17

Second Showdown: Board: 3 K 4 6 Q

LLinusLLove (SB) shows K 2 4 5 (a straight, Two to Six)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 28%, Turn: 80%, River: 100%)

ActionFreak (BB) shows A 9 K K (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 72%, Turn: 20%, River: 0%)

LLinusLLove (SB) wins $10,755.17
01-16-2020 , 07:10 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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EzPaTuLa (SB): $15,139.01 (151 bb)
ActionFreak (BB): $8,715.03 (87 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
EzPaTuLa (SB) raises to $300, ActionFreak (BB) 3-bets to $900, EzPaTuLa (SB) calls $600

Flop: ($1,800) 4 9 3 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) bets $1,797.50, EzPaTuLa (SB) calls $1,797.50

Turn: ($5,395) K (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) bets $5,392.50, EzPaTuLa (SB) raises to $10,785, ActionFreak (BB) calls $625.03 (all-in)

First River: ($17,430.06) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Second River: ($17,430.06) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $17,430.06 (Rake: $2.50)

First Showdown: Board: 4 9 3 K 5

EzPaTuLa (SB) shows T 8 7 9 (a pair of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

ActionFreak (BB) shows K 9 T Q (two pair, Kings and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

ActionFreak (BB) wins $8,713.78

Second Showdown: Board: 4 9 3 K J

EzPaTuLa (SB) shows T 8 7 9 (a pair of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

ActionFreak (BB) shows K 9 T Q (a straight, Nine to King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

ActionFreak (BB) wins $8,713.78
01-16-2020 , 07:22 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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EzPaTuLa (SB): $10,050.60 (101 bb)
ActionFreak (BB): $15,373.22 (154 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
EzPaTuLa (SB) raises to $300, ActionFreak (BB) 3-bets to $900, EzPaTuLa (SB) calls $600

Flop: ($1,800) 3 6 3 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) checks, EzPaTuLa (SB) bets $898.75, ActionFreak (BB) calls $898.75

Turn: ($3,597.50) 5 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) checks, EzPaTuLa (SB) bets $1,797.50, ActionFreak (BB) calls $1,797.50

River: ($7,192.50) 8 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) checks, EzPaTuLa (SB) bets $6,454.35 (all-in), ActionFreak (BB) calls $6,454.35

Total pot: $20,101.20 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
EzPaTuLa (SB) shows 3 5 6 A (a full house, Threes full of Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

ActionFreak (BB) shows K 9 A 9 (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

EzPaTuLa (SB) wins $20,098.70
01-16-2020 , 07:24 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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LLinusLLove (SB): $18,359.11 (184 bb)
ActionFreak (BB): $12,778.21 (128 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $300, ActionFreak (BB) 3-bets to $900, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $600

Flop: ($1,800) 2 6 8 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) bets $1,000, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $1,000

Turn: ($3,800) T (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) checks, LLinusLLove (SB) bets $2,582.30, ActionFreak (BB) raises to $10,878.21 (all-in), LLinusLLove (SB) calls $8,295.91

First River: ($25,556.42) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Second River: ($25,556.42) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $25,556.42 (Rake: $2.50)

First Showdown: Board: 2 6 8 T 4

ActionFreak (BB) shows 6 Q 5 6 (three of a kind, Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 58%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%)

LLinusLLove (SB) shows 9 3 7 J (a straight, Six to Ten)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 42%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%)

LLinusLLove (SB) wins $12,776.96

Second Showdown: Board: 2 6 8 T 5

ActionFreak (BB) shows 6 Q 5 6 (three of a kind, Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 58%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%)

LLinusLLove (SB) shows 9 3 7 J (a straight, Six to Ten)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 42%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%)

LLinusLLove (SB) wins $12,776.96
01-16-2020 , 07:38 AM
Looks like llinus moved fulltime plo bc of teh course
01-16-2020 , 07:44 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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LLinusLLove (SB): $48,826.89 (488 bb)
EzPaTuLa (BB): $8,531.52 (85 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $300, EzPaTuLa (BB) 3-bets to $900, LLinusLLove (SB) 4-bets to $2,700, EzPaTuLa (BB) calls $1,800

Flop: ($5,400) 6 2 K (2 players)
EzPaTuLa (BB) checks, LLinusLLove (SB) bets $5,397.50, EzPaTuLa (BB) raises to $5,831.52 (all-in), LLinusLLove (SB) calls $434.02

First Turn: ($17,063.04) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

First River: ($17,063.04) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Second Turn: ($17,063.04) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Second River: ($17,063.04) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $17,063.04 (Rake: $2.50)

First Showdown: Board: 6 2 K 4 3

EzPaTuLa (BB) shows 9 8 2 A (a pair of Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 41%, Turn: 38%, River: 0%)

LLinusLLove (SB) shows 4 J A A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 59%, Turn: 63%, River: 100%)

LLinusLLove (SB) wins $8,530.27

Second Showdown: Board: 6 2 K 3 7

EzPaTuLa (BB) shows 9 8 2 A (a pair of Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 41%, Turn: 38%, River: 0%)

LLinusLLove (SB) shows 4 J A A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 59%, Turn: 63%, River: 100%)

LLinusLLove (SB) wins $8,530.27
01-16-2020 , 07:44 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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LLinusLLove (SB): $16,187.18 (162 bb)
EzPaTuLa (BB): $7,718.53 (77 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $300, EzPaTuLa (BB) calls $200

Flop: ($600) T Q 2 (2 players)
EzPaTuLa (BB) checks, LLinusLLove (SB) checks

Turn: ($600) 3 (2 players)
EzPaTuLa (BB) bets $597.50, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $597.50

River: ($1,795) 6 (2 players)
EzPaTuLa (BB) bets $1,792.50, LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $7,170, EzPaTuLa (BB) calls $5,028.53 (all-in)

Total pot: $15,437.06 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
LLinusLLove (SB) shows 5 3 A 8 (a pair of Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: 31%, Turn: 73%, River: 0%)

EzPaTuLa (BB) shows 9 4 5 A (a straight, Two to Six)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 69%, Turn: 28%, River: 100%)

EzPaTuLa (BB) wins $15,434.56
01-16-2020 , 07:49 AM
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $100/$200 - 2 players
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buttonclickr (SB): $37,439.52 (187 bb)
Iimitless (BB): $20,435.75 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($300)
buttonclickr (SB) raises to $500, Iimitless (BB) 3-bets to $2,000, buttonclickr (SB) calls $1,500

Flop: ($4,000) 6 2 A (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $1,159.10, buttonclickr (SB) calls $1,159.10

Turn: ($6,318.20) 5 (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $2,102.96, buttonclickr (SB) calls $2,102.96

River: ($10,524.12) A (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $3,036.34, buttonclickr (SB) raises to $32,177.46 (all-in), Iimitless (BB) calls $12,137.35 (all-in)

Total pot: $40,871.50 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
buttonclickr (SB) shows 7 A (three of a kind, Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Iimitless (BB) shows 9 9 (two pair, Aces and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 67%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

buttonclickr (SB) wins $40,868.50
01-16-2020 , 07:51 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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LLinusLLove (SB): $12,284.78 (123 bb)
ActionFreak (BB): $10,834.57 (108 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $300, ActionFreak (BB) calls $200

Flop: ($600) J A 3 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) checks, LLinusLLove (SB) bets $406.30, ActionFreak (BB) calls $406.30

Turn: ($1,412.60) 9 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) checks, LLinusLLove (SB) bets $1,410.10, ActionFreak (BB) calls $1,410.10

River: ($4,232.80) 2 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) checks, LLinusLLove (SB) bets $4,230.30, ActionFreak (BB) calls $4,230.30

Total pot: $12,693.40 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
LLinusLLove (SB) shows 4 4 Q 3 (a pair of Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 43%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)

ActionFreak (BB) shows J Q A 5 (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 57%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 90%, River: 100%)

ActionFreak (BB) wins $12,690.90
01-16-2020 , 07:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon93PCTSure
Are this young rascal's first thoughts really
HELL YEAH I GET TO ENJOY EXPLOITING PEOPLE THAT KNOW HOW TO EXPLOIT ME WITHOUT PLAYING ME OR PUTTING IN THE WORK IN MORE!
Oh goodie, a CHALLENGE!
Haha I like your whole post and am aware how what I said sounds. Top regs are used to most of their opponents having HHs on them and not knowing what work exactly they have done with those HHs though. Obviously it's not ideal if someone publicly reveals ways that you've been exploiting the games but at least you can know what has been discovered rather than have a top reg discover it and then use it against you subtly over a long time period. It's also a hell of a lot better than someone privately selling your opponents the information without your knowledge for example.

I should stress again as well that this course is not going to make average regs be able to beat LLinus, it will just teach people how to analyse and exploit the games in a positional matchup. I only cover IP vs BB play so I don't release LLinus' strategies across the whole game. LLinus may just need to tone down some of the exploits I found, but that may also be true for other regs who do similar things. Some of the exploits have been pretty powerful for quite some time though so I wouldn't be surprised if they continue to work when things settle down a bit and it's not the in thing to be thinking about.
01-16-2020 , 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnFiieLd.
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $100/$200 - 2 players
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buttonclickr (SB): $37,439.52 (187 bb)
Iimitless (BB): $20,435.75 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($300)
buttonclickr (SB) raises to $500, Iimitless (BB) 3-bets to $2,000, buttonclickr (SB) calls $1,500

Flop: ($4,000) 6 2 A (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $1,159.10, buttonclickr (SB) calls $1,159.10

Turn: ($6,318.20) 5 (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $2,102.96, buttonclickr (SB) calls $2,102.96

River: ($10,524.12) A (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $3,036.34, buttonclickr (SB) raises to $32,177.46 (all-in), Iimitless (BB) calls $12,137.35 (all-in)

Total pot: $40,871.50 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
buttonclickr (SB) shows 7 A (three of a kind, Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Iimitless (BB) shows 9 9 (two pair, Aces and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 67%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

buttonclickr (SB) wins $40,868.50
interesting hand
01-16-2020 , 08:07 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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LLinusLLove (SB): $21,940.32 (219 bb)
ActionFreak (BB): $19,762.32 (198 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $300, ActionFreak (BB) calls $200

Flop: ($600) 8 T 6 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) checks, LLinusLLove (SB) bets $304.73, ActionFreak (BB) raises to $1,101.32, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $796.59

Turn: ($2,802.64) J (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) bets $2,800.14, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $2,800.14

River: ($8,402.92) 4 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) bets $8,400.42, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $8,400.42

Total pot: $25,203.76 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
ActionFreak (BB) shows Q A 9 8 (a straight, Eight to Queen)
LLinusLLove (SB) mucks
ActionFreak (BB) wins $25,201.26
01-16-2020 , 08:08 AM
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $100/$200 - 2 players
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buttonclickr (SB): $71,296.27 (356 bb)
Iimitless (BB): $19,900.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($300)
buttonclickr (SB) raises to $500, Iimitless (BB) calls $300

Flop: ($1,000) 9 4 Q (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) checks, buttonclickr (SB) bets $299.10, Iimitless (BB) calls $299.10

Turn: ($1,598.20) 5 (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) checks, buttonclickr (SB) checks

River: ($1,598.20) 8 (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $1,196.40, buttonclickr (SB) raises to $4,187.40, Iimitless (BB) calls $2,991

Total pot: $9,973 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
buttonclickr (SB) shows 5 T (a pair of Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 7%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

Iimitless (BB) shows Q 9 (two pair, Queens and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 93%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Iimitless (BB) wins $9,970
01-16-2020 , 08:17 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
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LLinusLLove (SB): $13,576.03 (136 bb)
ActionFreak (BB): $29,065.67 (291 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $300, ActionFreak (BB) 3-bets to $900, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $600

Flop: ($1,800) 6 K A (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) bets $898.75, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $898.75

Turn: ($3,597.50) T (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) bets $1,186.35, LLinusLLove (SB) calls $1,186.35

River: ($5,970.20) 4 (2 players)
ActionFreak (BB) bets $1,969.34, LLinusLLove (SB) raises to $10,590.93 (all-in), ActionFreak (BB) calls $8,621.59

Total pot: $27,152.06 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
LLinusLLove (SB) shows 7 J 9 Q (a straight, Ten to Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 40%, Turn: 90%, River: 100%)

ActionFreak (BB) shows A 7 K 8 (two pair, Aces and Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 60%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)

LLinusLLove (SB) wins $27,149.56
01-16-2020 , 08:34 AM
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $100/$200 - 2 players
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buttonclickr (SB): $69,741.02 (349 bb)
Iimitless (BB): $21,437.25 (107 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($300)
buttonclickr (SB) raises to $500, Iimitless (BB) 3-bets to $2,000, buttonclickr (SB) calls $1,500

Flop: ($4,000) 6 J 2 (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $1,199.10, buttonclickr (SB) calls $1,199.10

Turn: ($6,398.20) A (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $1,918.56, buttonclickr (SB) calls $1,918.56

River: ($10,235.32) Q (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) bets $16,319.59 (all-in), buttonclickr (SB) calls $16,319.59

Total pot: $42,874.50 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
Iimitless (BB) shows A A (three of a kind, Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 85%, Flop: 82%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

buttonclickr (SB) shows J Q (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 15%, Flop: 18%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

Iimitless (BB) wins $42,871.50
01-16-2020 , 08:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanu
On the LLinus course, I do have mixed feelings about that because I've always steered clear of anything that's even vaguely grey area as to whether it's acceptable. It's important to bear in mind though that there's nothing inherently evil about studying databases, it's just site rules put in place mostly to protect recreational players from losing even more quickly. In most serious games/sports it's completely standard to take as much information as possible from other competitors games played against other people in order to prepare to play against them yourself or to learn from if you're not at that level. Any high level sports team will do video analysis of their next opponent's strengths and weaknesses before they play. It's completely standard for people to watch Tiger Woods golf swing, or Roger Federer's forehand in order to improve their own games.

In poker, because stars bans it (although completely ineffectively, probably 80-90% of my opponents when I played had mined hands on me, even though I didn't on them), it is rightly considered unfair on people who break the rules to play with HHs on people who don't break the rules. However, it's so widespread at higher stakes that the rule becomes a total joke and I have no problem at all with any of the hundreds of people who used them against me because it becomes a big ask for people to not do it when so many others are and the rule is not enforced.

In this particular case I've not even played against LLinus using the hands Upswing provided, and the course is publicly available for LLinus as well as everyone else. It is also of course not designed with the idea of making people beat LLinus as he can just adjust his play. The idea is to teach people how to exploit the games they play in by showing how LLinus has done it in the toughest games in the world.

I respect the opinion of anyone who still thinks it's not ok, because I know that for someone watching from the outside it comes from a place of wanting fairness and feeling it's harsh to LLinus. I suspect though that even the most staunch critic would probably not be so bothered if they were fully aware of the extent of mined hand usage at high stakes (I have no clue whether LLinus himself has used mined hands but given the widespread usage and the fact he's doing so well, you'd have to assign a very high probability that he does) as well as the general approach that I think most top players have to things like this. Obviously it depends what else he has going on atm but in general if I were in LLinus' shoes I would find this to be a bit of a challenge and would enjoy thinking about how to exploit people who are trying to exploit him after watching the course.
This post is a joke, you've just written a load of words which can be summarised to "it's ok for me to datamine hands of one specific player and release a video on it going into exact details on how this player plays because lots of people datamine hands. by the way linus is probably datamining hands"

If you are going to make questionable ethical decisions to help sell a course don't try and cover it up with this garbage
01-16-2020 , 08:43 AM
PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit (8-Game) - $250/$500 - 2 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

BERRI SWEET (SB): $94,499.50 (189 bb)
Trueteller (BB): $138,677.96 (277 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($750)
BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $250, Trueteller (BB) raises to $1,500, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $1,000

Flop: ($3,000) 9 J 2 (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) bets $989.01, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $989.01

Turn: ($4,978.02) 6 (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) checks, BERRI SWEET (SB) bets $4,975.02, Trueteller (BB) calls $4,975.02

River: ($14,928.06) 2 (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) checks, BERRI SWEET (SB) bets $12,535.97, Trueteller (BB) calls $12,535.97

Total pot: $40,000 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
BERRI SWEET (SB) shows 6 2 7 A (a full house, Twos full of Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 43%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 48%, River: 100%)

Trueteller (BB) shows 8 7 J T (two pair, Jacks and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 57%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 53%, River: 0%)

BERRI SWEET (SB) wins $39,997
01-16-2020 , 08:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayox
PLS ask him about epic KJ hand vs otb, and what he thinks about that spot now? how/if he would play it differently
which hand is this? anyone has a link?
01-16-2020 , 08:49 AM
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $100/$200 - 2 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

buttonclickr (SB): $40,492.92 (202 bb)
Iimitless (BB): $50,577.35 (253 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($300)
buttonclickr (SB) raises to $500, Iimitless (BB) calls $300

Flop: ($1,000) 8 2 2 (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) checks, buttonclickr (SB) bets $299.10, Iimitless (BB) calls $299.10

Turn: ($1,598.20) J (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) checks, buttonclickr (SB) bets $1,063.47, Iimitless (BB) calls $1,063.47

River: ($3,725.14) 7 (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) checks, buttonclickr (SB) bets $5,583.21, Iimitless (BB) calls $5,583.21

Total pot: $14,891.56 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
buttonclickr (SB) shows 5 4 (a pair of Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 38%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

Iimitless (BB) shows 8 K (two pair, Eights and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 62%, Flop: 95%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

Iimitless (BB) wins $14,888.56
01-16-2020 , 09:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dg4
This post is a joke, you've just written a load of words which can be summarised to "it's ok for me to datamine hands of one specific player and release a video on it going into exact details on how this player plays because lots of people datamine hands. by the way linus is probably datamining hands"

If you are going to make questionable ethical decisions to help sell a course don't try and cover it up with this garbage
I've said it's an ethically grey area and I'm not 100% comfortable with it but have given the reasons that I decided to go ahead. You're free to disagree but it doesn't sound like you are taking a very balanced view on the topic. For example, it's buying and using mined hands while you play that is what the rules are mostly designed to prevent. If you accept that this behaviour is widespread at high stakes and have very little to say about it but are railing really hard on me for analysing one positional matchup for 1 player, in a sample of hands that I've been given, while not using them to play, then something seems a little off on your priorities. If you think that's not going on at high stakes then fair enough but I'm afraid you're a little naive.

If it's the harshness on LLinus that bothers you then I'd spare your moral outrage on his behalf for someone who needs it more. The guy is a millionaire and will continue to crush long after I release this course. At the very least I'd wait to see if he actually cares. If he comes out and says he's really upset about it then the only reasonable side to give sympathy to is his. I've produced something to my benefit which could be to his potential detriment. I imagine he'll be fairly cool with it though.

      
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