Bingo. Potential authors and potential consumers of their books for the win.

We. never dealt with an agent or attorney relative to getting a book published, and as far as I know, when an author came to us to see if we might publish their book, they had no contact with an agent or attorney.

Mason

We have told inquiring authors that they should look at Amazon KDP because we can’t match what they pay an author. Also, because of the way Amazon KDP is set up with print on demand and no inventory, it would be very easy for you to remove the words I’m objecting to. And for those reading here, it should only take Wallace a few minutes to do this.

Mason

Man I've been out of the loop. Who owns 2p2?

That sounds like a fair assumption.

How would you know? Two Plus Two Publishing LLC started in 1987. I think I know a little more about how it works and operates than you do.

Again, it would take Wallace only a couple of minutes to remove the words I'm objecting to and we would appreciate it very much if he does that.

Mason

You really aren't doing yourself any favours here.

It would have taken you even less time (and generated way less attention to the words in question) for you to never have made this thread in the first place.

Again, you miss the point. Name one author in the history of publishing did not sign with a publisher because of something a competitor wrote in a book forward.

Where did I say that I know?

I said it sounded like a fair assumption, implying that it sounded reasonable to me personally. Maybe I should edit my post to "To me personally (and apparently almost everybody else who posted in this thread) that sounds like a fair assumption". Would that make you a little bit happier? Everything to lighten your day.

And please don't ban me, that would make me very sad.

Are you STILL going on about this? No one even else even knew about whatever the hell this incident is supposed to be until you started the thread, now the entire poker community probably doesn't want to work with 2+2 because their founder is acting obnoxiously petty and entitled over an author who had the audacity of choosing to self-publish instead of groveling at your feet. Your constant complaining over nothing is doing much more damage to your brand than some vague amazon description that literally no one but you has read.

You want an author of a book you didn’t publish, who wrote a paragraph that has nothing to with your company and didn’t mention your company at all, to change a line in his book because… Why again?

You obviously have no understanding of how we run our company, and we have a long history of shots taken at us for which we have little toleration.

I don't care whether it was intentional or not, and if the author says he never even thought about us when he wrote this, I'll take his word for it. But we have pointed it out, and since the book is self-published through KDP Amazon, it should take the author about three minutes to make the change that we request.

Mason

Well, you have little understanding of how we run our publishing company. And Two Plus Two Publishing LLC is run and always has been run, much different from other more standard publishing companies.

As for banning, my policy has and was always to leave the banning up to the moderators and have as little to do with it as possible. I have experience doing statistical quality control work, and in that format it's important for quality control and production to be as independent of each other as possible.

Since I felt I was, so to speak, the head of production when I was majority site owner, I wanted the quality control, which I viewed as the moderation, to be as independent of me as possible. But with that being said, I don't take kindly to anyone who makes direct insults towards me.

Mason

This is one of the most arrogant things I've ever seen posted on this site and that's frankly saying a lot.

Between few people defending negreanu’s and polk’s recent antics and one person calling matusow’s day 4 shove into a fairly strong range “next level”, it takes some effort to come up with a view point that nobody agrees with

Perhap's you're right. You are too sensitive.

Do you really think that you are the only publisher of poker books, or that someone reading the above comment would immediately think of you?

Not many people would think it was 2+2, because, as Mason indicated, it is unlikely 2+2 would publish an "Introduction to HORSE" book today.

Hi Jay:

As far as I can tell, only us and D&B Poker are still willing to publish poker books. And, anyone who knows anything about poker books should immediately think of us. I don't see it any other way.

Mason

Hi deuce:

For us to publish a book like this, especially since we already have books that cover all of these poker games, it would have to have some unique material in it. However, if we were to turn a book like this down, and we have already done this with other authors, it doesn't mean that it's not a good book.

Also, and I might as well mention it here, our limit hold 'em book Hold 'em Poker for Advanced Players is currently undergoing a major rewrite and expansion. I'll have more information on this in the near future. It's new title will be Hold 'em Poker for Advanced Players - 2023 Edition.

Mason

Wow I am looking forward to that book. Good stuff.

I don't think sensitive is the word.

So if they had shopped the book to you, then the sentence in the forward would still be appropriate because they wouldn't have been happy with your terms compared to Amazon?

You seem to be upset because you believe an aspiring author might read that sentence and be influenced to self publish rather than use tpt but you state that if an author does come to you, you tell them to look at Amazon because they will probably be happier.

Except we tell them this before we even look at their book.

Because we happen to be honest with authors you think that’s a problem. You have very little understanding how we conduct our business.

Mason

Can I also make requests that you change various 2+2 books because I have a vague and unsubstantiated feeling that they refer to me in some way? You've written lots of books about bad plays and mistakes players make that I myself have made and I would like an apology because I'm pretty sure you meant me specifically.