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Iowa troopers steal 0K  from two players driving through state (12/6 update: state settles) Iowa troopers steal 0K  from two players driving through state (12/6 update: state settles)

10-07-2014 , 10:07 AM
TENNY MUCHO MUCHO DENIRO IN SU TRUCKY TRAILER?
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10-07-2014 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by IMANINJA
TENNY MUCHO MUCHO DENIRO IN SU TRUCKY TRAILER?
Yeah holy ****. That cop knew he was being filmed too.

Stossel did a whole asset forfeiture show a while back and I think I saw that same clip and I was surprised he didn't address that part specifically. The cops in Tenn say they specifically target the people they think have already brought drugs into the state and are leaving with cash by only patrolling on the side of the road that leads toward Mexico.
They have no interest in actually curbing the supply of the drugs they claim are so detrimental to society because it's more profitable to rob the dealer (or any person they decide to accuse of being a dealer because they happen to have money the police want to use for margarita machines) than it is to interdict the contraband before it is sold.
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10-07-2014 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dogmoon
They got what they deserved for being reckless. Driving around with drug paraphernalia and 85,000 cash, and being evasive, while denying the cash to officers, is enough for them to forfeit the cash.

When you do dumb things you get dumb results. If all drug dealers had to do is say they were coming from a poker tournament, then nobody would ever be stopped. I don't care if it is verifiable or not. This is what you get when you are poker players, who are 99 percent to be tax evaders/ money launderers, and possibly involved in other nefarious activities.

You cannot expect law enforcement to be mind-readers. Not many young guys with 85,000 in cash in a locked briefcase and items associated with drug uses/sales are legit. If you are going to be carrying 85,000 in cash, leave the marijuana at home, fools. This reminds me of the professional athletes who just cannot wait to throw away multi-million dollar paydays by continuing to use marijuana. It doesn't matter if the tide is turning and it is not longer a moral crime to be a recreational user.

Do dumb stuff. Get dumb results. Pay attorneys and dig a deeper hole. Whine to friends and family about your new "victim status" and get laughed at by me.
you're a complete ****ing moron
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10-07-2014 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TAFFYMAN
I'm just wondering if there was no weed or paraphernalia in the car would it have turned out differently. The article seems to be written from the poker players point of view and I'm not sure the whole story is being told story
the drugs didnt matter at all. just having a large sum of money is enough for them to "suspect" the money is tied to something illicit. even as little as 2400 in nevada was confiscated when the person had done nothing wrong and had no drugs.

i saw some article saying a sheriff in florida said anyone obeying the speed limit was suspicious enough to confiscate money because they are obviously trying to not get pulled over.
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10-07-2014 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
you're a complete ****ing moron
He also started an anti-semitic thread in Politics claiming Hitler did good things if you discount the Final Solution.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41...ended-1480106/

What is crazy is how when people talk about Hitler's legitimate accomplishments unrelated to the Final Solution, they are run out of town and accused of being anti-semite,
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10-08-2014 , 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by IMANINJA
TENNY MUCHO MUCHO DENIRO IN SU TRUCKY TRAILER?
funny Michelle Beadle from ESPN just tweeted this lol. https://twitter.com/MichelleDBeadle/...11806549585920
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10-31-2014 , 01:12 PM
Washington Post Article detailing massive nationwide coordination of these efforts at both federal and state levels:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/inv...l_icymi&wpmm=1

It seems highly likely to me that the "tip" came to stop these guys came across this "Black Asphalt Network"
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11-12-2014 , 01:28 PM
Don't **** with Bart and John, they **** back:

http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...re-lawsuit.txt

Cliffs: Bart and John are suing Iowa troopers and the company that trained them on forfeiture in federal court.
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11-12-2014 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NineNatural
Steal or confiscated? If steal wow, if confiscated there are a bunch of stories like that.
of course it stealing, and you are part of the problem with a thought process like that
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11-12-2014 , 02:46 PM
I can't believe that a traffic stop in Iowa could justify a search of a home in California. Especially if these guys had proof they were in Iowa for the tournament.
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11-12-2014 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by crashjr

Cliffs: Bart and John are suing Iowa troopers and the company that trained them on forfeiture in federal court.

I hope they get some measure of justice.
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11-12-2014 , 03:22 PM
I find it interesting that this forum is so quick to stand up for drug dealers. It is pretty clear from the facts revealed that the two are using the cover of 'professional poker player' to launder their drug money. The only reason the felony drug charges against them were dropped, was because the tip came from an illegal stop.
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11-12-2014 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Humboldt
I find it interesting that this forum is so quick to stand up for drug dealers. It is pretty clear from the facts revealed that the two are using the cover of 'professional poker player' to launder their drug money. The only reason the felony drug charges against them were dropped, was because the tip came from an illegal stop.
wat
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11-12-2014 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Humboldt
I find it interesting that this forum is so quick to stand up for drug dealers. It is pretty clear from the facts revealed that the two are using the cover of 'professional poker player' to launder their drug money. The only reason the felony drug charges against them were dropped, was because the tip came from an illegal stop.
Dude…
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11-12-2014 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
wat

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Originally Posted by crashjr
Dude…
If you have a rebuttal that is more than one word I would love to hear it.
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11-12-2014 , 05:07 PM
cops are trash. wat is needed is all cops be fired and we would live in a most peaceful nation.
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11-12-2014 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Humboldt
If you have a rebuttal that is more than one word I would love to hear it.
Why would someone that owns a cash based small business need to claim he won at poker in order to launder money? Your **** came straight out of left field, and it doesn't make any sense.
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11-12-2014 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Humboldt
If you have a rebuttal that is more than one word I would love to hear it.
http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...re-lawsuit.txt
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95. After their seized items were returned in Iowa and despite the fact that the search had occurred over six months ago, officials in California brought criminal charges against both Newmerzhycky and Davis for allegedly growing illegal marijuana even though both possessed the necessary permits allowing them to grow marijuana in California in the amounts they did for medical purposes.
They claim to have permits for the drugs that they produced.

Because of numerous recent stories about the lawsuit against the Iowa cops, its hard now to google to find the "facts" of the California criminal charges, but if you know what they are I'd love to hear them.
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11-12-2014 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by obviously.bogus
http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...re-lawsuit.txt


They claim to have permits for the drugs that they produced.

Because of numerous recent stories about the lawsuit against the Iowa cops, its hard now to google to find the "facts" of the California criminal charges, but if you know what they are I'd love to hear them.
Whoa. Humboldt might be onto something at least where the drug dealing is concerned. Just found this and it looks kinda bad:

http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2014/nov...il-forfeiture/
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11-12-2014 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by obviously.bogus
http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...re-lawsuit.txt


They claim to have permits for the drugs that they produced.

Because of numerous recent stories about the lawsuit against the Iowa cops, its hard now to google to find the "facts" of the California criminal charges, but if you know what they are I'd love to hear them.
Prop 215 permits you to grow up to X number of plants in X amount of space (the X varies from county to county, but it is generally a 99 plant limit). These two would not have been arrested if it wasn't for the fact they were outside the limits of what was allowable under prop 215 guidelines.

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The day of the traffic stop, one of the state investigators had called authorities in Humboldt County, Calif., who raided the men’s homes the next day. They found that each was growing marijuana.

California authorities brought criminal charges against them for unlawful cultivation of marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to sell, and providing a place for the use, storage, manufacturing of a controlled substance.

But the California prosecutor dropped the charges in April after learning more about the circumstances of the traffic stop.

“We’re moving to dismiss in the interest of justice because the officers that conducted the search warrants here in California were given information from an officer who was out of state,” the prosecutor told a judge in Humboldt County. “The officer who was out of state got it from a traffic stop, but the traffic stop was done without probable cause.”

The prosecutor added: “The People realize that everything else would be fruit of the poisonous tree.”
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11-12-2014 , 06:51 PM
Interesting. So now I'm just curious, did they win money in the tournament?
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11-12-2014 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Humboldt
Prop 215 permits you to grow up to X number of plants in X amount of space (the X varies from county to county, but it is generally a 99 plant limit). These two would not have been arrested if it wasn't for the fact they were outside the limits of what was allowable under prop 215 guidelines.
On my 5 minute research of California medical marijuana laws, it appears they could have been running a collective. If they had more than 20 members they could be legally holding the amounts that were found and have the necessary permits. (Unless I'm missing something which is quite possible)
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11-12-2014 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by crashjr
Whoa. Humboldt might be onto something at least where the drug dealing is concerned. Just found this and it looks kinda bad:

http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2014/nov...il-forfeiture/
If that's the money that was seized in the Iowa car stop then I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not money from poker.
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11-12-2014 , 10:21 PM
Well it's hard to argue that they weren't in fact delivering weed to Iowa. A 100k in vacuum sealed bags with a massive weed operation back in California?

Regardless, fact that a cop can just lie to randomly pull over an out of state car, and then justify a possible illegal search based on the driver's "nervousness" is the real crime.
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11-12-2014 , 10:55 PM
sounds like knockaround guys
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