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06-19-2015 , 02:42 AM

doublejoker

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Kudos to jack effel. He listened to our complaints regarding wsop limit event structures, and got the changes suggested in a recent pokernews article implemented an hour before today's $1500 10 game.

It's rare you see a tournament director be so proactive and actually make changes midway through an event.

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2015/0...ures-21963.htm

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06-19-2015 , 02:53 AM

C Bids

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In after structure guru

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06-19-2015 , 03:31 AM

sqwerty12

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You really do come up with the daggiest threads on 2+2

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06-19-2015 , 03:41 AM

doublejoker

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Do you realize something like this is unprecedented in 45 years of wsop.

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06-19-2015 , 03:43 AM

David Lyons

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Changing the structure after most people have bought in seems a little odd.

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06-19-2015 , 04:21 AM

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

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So if somebody signed up for the tournament, and doesn't realise it's been changed before taking their seat, they can get their money back right?

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06-19-2015 , 04:21 AM

doublejoker

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Yes they made several announcements.

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06-19-2015 , 04:26 AM

Mattraq1

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Originally Posted by ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

So if somebody signed up for the tournament, and doesn't realise it's been changed before taking their seat, they can get their money back right?

My roommate actually showed up an hour late because of the old structure. Unaware of the changes he was blinded 20% of his stack and forced to get refund and not play (he isn't going to play losing 20% of his stack. Not a degen like some)

Kudos to the changes. Pretty meh for them to come out 1 hour before tourney starts tho... I guess it was short term problem for long term fix....

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06-19-2015 , 04:44 AM

doublejoker

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They actually changed all four remaining limit events at once. Amazing they got this done thru gaming so quickly.

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06-19-2015 , 07:22 AM

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PTLou

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

They actually changed all four remaining limit events at once. Amazing they got this done thru gaming so quickly.

You sir are the Ralph Nader of Tournament Poker.

Although the fodder for some needling... in all seriousness, I for one appreciate your efforts and impact it has on keeping MTT organizers in check.

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06-19-2015 , 09:01 AM

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sqwerty12

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

Do you realize something like this is unprecedented in 45 years of wsop.

Doesn't change my opinion

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06-19-2015 , 09:12 AM

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restorativejustice

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Originally Posted by Mattraq1

80% of any job is showing up on time. Your friend still sounds like a "degen"

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06-19-2015 , 01:24 PM

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ScotchOnDaRocks

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I kind of liked it better the other way. Adding two 250/500 levels would have made me preferred the new one better. Hoping to be around to reap the extra 10,000/20,000 though.

But if it brings in more of the whiners and crybabies I'm definitely cool with that. I'm undefeated against whiners and crybabies imo

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06-19-2015 , 03:01 PM

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Kevmath

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They once added a bracelet event in the middle of the WSOP, that seems more unprecedented than changing structures.

Not a surprise OP gives himself a huge pat on the back though.

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06-19-2015 , 03:21 PM

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PTLou

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Originally Posted by Kevmath

They once added a bracelet event in the middle of the WSOP, that seems more unprecedented than changing structures.

Not a surprise OP gives himself a huge pat on the back though.

Hello Kevin

Low Blow. IMO you owe Mr. Chainsaw an apology

Best Wishes

Lou

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06-19-2015 , 03:30 PM

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Stu Ungar

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Originally Posted by Kevmath

They once added a bracelet event in the middle of the WSOP, that seems more unprecedented than changing structures.

Not a surprise OP gives himself a huge pat on the back though.

Sharp post..

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06-19-2015 , 04:15 PM

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Kevmath

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Should have added: Event 26 of the 2006 WSOP was a PLO event. Apparently there was confusion/a request by players to have a PLO w/ Rebuys event, so a new bracelet event was added that day.

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06-19-2015 , 04:18 PM

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R*R

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Originally Posted by restorativejustice

80% of any job is showing up on time. Your friend still sounds like a "degen"

Really? You put a % on that. I didn't know showing up to work on time was mathematical and, say it was, that it represents 80% of one's work effort.

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06-19-2015 , 04:25 PM

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kevmode

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Originally Posted by Kevmath

They once added a bracelet event in the middle of the WSOP, that seems more unprecedented than changing structures.

Not a surprise OP gives himself a huge pat on the back though.

A big swing and a big miss. At least the op cares about improving the structures which is a lot better then most of the loser degens on this forum.

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06-19-2015 , 04:55 PM

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BraveJayhawk

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

It wasn't 2 weeks ago long ago you were complaining about those that were complaining about the very structures that were changed that ironically were influenced by suggestions you made

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06-19-2015 , 05:05 PM

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doublejoker

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I said they were better this year than prior to the complainers.

The only events that needed adjusting were ones that contain split pot games or limit events only.

Those are the only events that were modified.

The new pot limit and no limit structures worked fine.

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06-19-2015 , 05:16 PM

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BraveJayhawk

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

You also said that you had talked to entrants and everyone of them said they loved the new Day 1 structure.

Then a few like Glantz express dislike. You change your mind and propose a revised structure. More support follows. And it's changed. Thanks for your help with the latter part, but the way you high-horsed it in the beginning was pathetic

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06-19-2015 , 05:48 PM

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doublejoker

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They way preferred this years prior changes over 2014 format. Ill stand by that statement.

Only the high end pros preferred last years setup.

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06-19-2015 , 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by R*R

Really? You put a % on that. I didn't know showing up to work on time was mathematical and, say it was, that it represents 80% of one's work effort.

It's a variant of a famous Woody Allen quote so often repeated that it has gained widespread acceptance as part of the recipe for success. But I digress.