about $60 and 48247523 FPPs I think.

Best month was like 6-7K. Worst like 2K. Time for another shot at 100NL soon

And maybe 1400 was a bit too high to be true. 12tabling ya can avg a bit over 1K/hr. I'm sure 12/10 nits like Soldatti and piscogay could easily do 16+ tables.

and how many hours have you put in? at 5 ptbb/100 that's about 500k hands... which is certainly possible but there are VERY FEW players that can maintain 5 ptbb/100... especially when considering that to play that many hands you will be multitabling during off-peak hours etc

Anyone who makes 10€/hr?

yea, plz post some stats w/ that rika if you dont mind. hands, ptbb/100, hours, mt ratio would be the interesting ones.

I was friends with a guy who worked for Bodog and could see player statistics. He said basicly noone made >$250K per year on that site.

I think a good midstakes grinder can run at 5PTB/100 with almost no table selection at 2/4 and probably 4/100 at 3/6.

1000-2000 sounds about right to me. I think lots of the $25/50+ guys play on multiple sites so there are probably less of them then we think but they are making more like $1M+ per year. Count tourney donks too... just winning the Sunday Million is like $250K right? probably a lot of people made +$250K this year that are -EV at 1/2NL.

Even a 12 tabling 1/2nl player with a weak winrate could clear 250k.

If he plays just 5 hours a day (3 when waking up, 2 before bed, not that hard....still leaves him like 10 hours in the day to do whatever). That's 180k hands a month.

180k hands a month with a winrate of even 2ptbb/100 = $14,400 in profit at the tables. Rakeback on FTP for example would be 27%, making his rakeback per month $7k for net profit per month of $21,400.

Comes out to $256k a year. Might seem far fetched on the surface but playing 5 hours a day on avg if you're serious about the game isn't all that far fetched.

So someoen 6 tabling at 2/4 nl with a decent winrate shouldn't be having a hard time clearing 250k. Guess the question though is how common is it to have a decent winrate at 2/4nl.

lol, there isnt a single 1/2 player who has made $250k in a year

I even doubt if there is a single player who plays 180k hands a month and wins.

Wana bet?

I'm pretty sure that no-one has made more than $250k from just pokerstars 6max 2/4 nl this year for example. A handful might be close, especially if you include rakeback. There will be a few who play 2/4 nl who have made $250k but not just from 2/4 nl.

I think there is a difference between what's possible and what people actually do.

Earlier in this thread I claimed that some 2/4 NLHE HU players could clear 250K this year and someone else replied that players who are capable of doing that would move up, which I think is a valid point.

Certainly, it is possible to win 250K at 2/4 nl and some sick human being could possibly do it at 1/2 nl but anyone who is capable of doing it, will NOT do it, because they will move up and win more there.

And to add to that, most players don't stick to one limit for a whole year, especially winning players move up a couple of times and most players mix up their limits, for instance playing a variety of 2/4, 3/6 and 5/10 tables over the month.

Net or gross earnings? A few players with over $500,000 official earnings may in fact be net losers. Partners are getting a cut of their action.

wait...what? link?

Running at 5 PTBB, that's 2.5 Mil hands this year, so i'm gonna go ahead and call shenanigans.

That is only 4.8 hands a minute for every minute of the entire year.

and a lot of those winning players also get killed when they move up (just runing bad, tougher games, etc) and people under estimate how much this happens. there are WAY more players who would make $250k this if they hadn't taken a shot here and there, etc.

and as for people who are "crushing" but aren't apart of 2p2 or any online community... i just dont believe the majority of them.

show me datamines.

25 in a canadian city translates to 23-24 in an american city right?

My guess was 100-1,000 and I'm pissed to not be one of them.

one of them <-

Safe bet I will not make $250k

bump. Any more guesses now that the year is up?


Where are the datamines, results from cardplayer live tournies, online player of the year stuff, or thehighstakesdb. Where are all the 2/4 and 3/6nl players making 250k a year? How many people are really beating 5/10nl? Live donks can't make that much, right? etc

I think its probably around 1000

It is a surprisingly high 79201 people. 2% of those are female. 39% of them are under the age of 30.

where is this data from?

how the **** are 61% of these 30+??? sounds too unlikely