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How goes Sebok's hunt for the real (UB) killers? How goes Sebok's hunt for the real (UB) killers?

01-12-2010 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by barryg1
So who didn't get their hand histories? Of course, I assume no one, but you guys want to pretend he didn't get them out.

Where is there UB advertising on pokerroad, except on his page? Of course, nowhere because they still haven't delivered on the third step Joe talked about: delivering us other real names besides Russ.

Even when Joe went on Pokercast after criticizing the way Ub handled things, unlike their other spokespeople, Mike painted him as a sellout saying that he said things supporting how Ub was handling things. Why, because it's more popular to bash Joe than tell the truth, as you guys are doing here. (I bash him and keep Ub stuff off pokerroad also.) In other words, Mike sold out to you guys, because it makes his clientele happier than if he would have told the boring truth.

http://www.pokerroad.com/news/posts/...w-on-the-score


Poker2Nite Now On The Score

2010 January, 11
Poker2Nite, the poker news and entertainment show helmed by PokerRoad’s Joe Sebok and Scott Huff, is once again expanding its domain, this time providing Canadian viewers access to the show via Canada’s popular 24-hour English-language sports television network, The Score.

The Score, along with its regular featured programming which reaches over 6.6 million Canadian households, began airing weekly episodes of Poker2Nite last Sunday (1/10) and appears to have made room on their weekly schedule for the show, on that day, for the foreseeable future, making access to Poker2Nite easier than ever before.

Now viewers anxious to see what happens when a mainstream television program is handed off to the like of Seebs, Huff and Joe Stapleton- the Head Writer of the show- can find out, either by tuning into FSN if in America (Wed. 23:00 ET), The Score if in Canada (Sun. 15:00 and 17:30 ET), the Poker Channel if in Europe (Wed. and Sat. 20:00 CET) or anytime online at UB.net- the Title Sponsor of the show- basically if anywhere else in the World.

For more information, or to find out about UB’s Poker2Nite Pro Challenge, which awards players free prize packages to next year’s World Series of Poker, visit UB.net.


Story by Mark Anderson

"To sign up to UB through PokerRoad click here. And use referral code "SEBOK" to receive an 111% first-time deposit bonus (up to $1,100).





" News article " found on Pokerroad
http://www.pokerroad.com/news/posts/...st-of-the-year



UB Christmas Bad Beat Jackpot, One Of The Biggest Of The Year

2010 January, 08
Some cash game players who chose to play at UB on Christmas day received a pretty nice unexpected present, according to a recent press release from UB.com, when a player who lost with quad tens set off a Bad Beat Jackpot worth $377,770.05.

The player, “ROSCOE1206,” of course earned the largest chunk of that prize worth $123,097.66, with the second largest piece going to “ZMANJ,” who made an impressive Ten-high Straight Flush to trump the quads.

“ZMANJ” earned $62,032.43 from inflicting that bad beat, leaving the rest of the prize pool to be distributed around to the other players at that table ($1,322.40 each) and to the other 131 players at all the other Bad Beat Jackpot Tables as well ($322.40 each).

With the addition of that final major Bad Beat Jackpot, the CEREUS Poker Network was able to boast giving away over $17,000,000 during 2009 alone, and over $48,000,000 since the Bad Beat Jackpot’s conception.

For more information, or to get into the action visit UB.com.


Story by Mark Anderson

"To sign up to UB through PokerRoad click here. And use referral code "SEBOK" to receive an 111% first-time deposit bonus (up to $1,100).




Care to comment Barry?

Last edited by leplusbeau; 01-12-2010 at 02:41 PM.
01-12-2010 , 02:53 PM
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anytime online at UB.net- the Title Sponsor of the show
Title Sponsor UB.net, I won't be watching. It is a pokernews show though huh? Wonder what kind of representation UB will get. Do they still makes jokes about seeing hole-crads? Maybe they can get Paul Leggett on TV, it is better than radion, and all those Canadian views would be right at hom for Paul and Tokwiro.

Hope Joe can get those names out. I do not forsee UB or the KGC coming out with anymore press releases on the scandal. EVER. So if the names come out, hopefully it is due to people talking to Joe or somene.
01-12-2010 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvester
I got my shirt I am wearing to the LAPC.

http://www.printfection.com/stopthecheating

I also found this gem in the mix....this shirt if the absolute nuts.

http://www.printfection.com/shop/abs...sideid.7864380

You should wear that t-shirt at ante up for africa charity tournament during WSOP.
01-12-2010 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ringo
Has there been any more information released about why the initial investigator was threatened and had to stop? I forget his name - he has a blog though.
I think you mean Nat Arem. I don't think he's talked about the threats further.


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Originally Posted by Ringo
Also - what happened to brainwashdoddo?
IIRC, UB or someone threatened him. He disappeared for a while, and made a three posts in this thread around the time the 60 minutes story came out.
01-12-2010 , 11:51 PM
several 2+2 posters that helped break and continue to investigate the AP and UB scandals have been threatened
if AP/UB were honest Companies those individuals should be given AWARDS for exposing the fraud in their Companies instead of worrying about a knock on their door
01-13-2010 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wiggum
I think you mean Nat Arem. I don't think he's talked about the threats further.




IIRC, UB or someone threatened him. He disappeared for a while, and made a three posts in this thread around the time the 60 minutes story came out.
Yes, I too have always been curious about the nature of the threats to Nat...I think I remember him saying that he had been threatened, and people assumed that it was some big burly dude threatening violence, and later he said that it had not necessarily been a physical threat; I'm not exactly sure what else would constitute a threat -- perhaps to his professional or financial interests (??). But I was always hopeful that that might come out. Then - and correct me if I'm wrong - didn't Nat actually go work for AP in some capacity...?

Also had hoped that brainwashdodo would eventually return or let his identity be known, but that too has not happened.
01-13-2010 , 11:09 PM
So great to have you around BOB.

You where the reason PokerRoad was great. oh an Cash Plays too

THx again for all those hours of truth entertainment.

Hope ur coving all ur spreads
01-14-2010 , 12:56 AM
I wonder how Joe feels about working for people that allegedly, during the WSOP, solicited donations for a charity via popcorn sales in the halls of the Rio and then put that money in their pocket.

He is doing one thing right: he pretty much ignores all this nonsense we talk about, pretends he doesn't work for scumbags and just busies himself with collecting his paycheck. Smart move there.

Last edited by OnWithTheShow; 01-14-2010 at 01:03 AM.
01-14-2010 , 01:00 AM
Wasn't that allegedly Absolute Poker several years ago?
01-14-2010 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevmath
Wasn't that allegedly Absolute Poker several years ago?
It was.
01-14-2010 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by OnWithTheShow
I wonder how Joe feels about working for people that allegedly, during the WSOP, solicited donations for a charity via popcorn sales in the halls of the Rio and then put that money in their pocket.

He is doing one thing right: he pretty much ignores all this nonsense we talk about, pretends he doesn't work for scumbags and just busies himself with collecting his paycheck. Smart move there.
actually UB sponsored Ante Up for Africa was more disappointing when it was discovered thanks to Admo that instead of the money going to Africans for food and shelter it went to the Center for American Progress run by John Podesta progressive socialists leading the charge on the Government take over of heath care and many other socialist agendas
01-14-2010 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
actually UB sponsored Ante Up for Africa was more disappointing when it was discovered thanks to Admo that instead of the money going to Africans for food and shelter it went to the Center for American Progress run by John Podesta progressive socialists leading the charge on the Government take over of heath care and many other socialist agendas
lol
01-14-2010 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
actually UB sponsored Ante Up for Africa was more disappointing when it was discovered thanks to Admo that instead of the money going to Africans for food and shelter it went to the Center for American Progress run by John Podesta progressive socialists leading the charge on the Government take over of heath care and many other socialist agendas
Is this confirmed? If it is, death to that phoney poker event!
01-14-2010 , 07:00 PM
Unless you buy the Indians bought AP/UB story (lol), the popcorngate culprits are probably still in charge.
01-14-2010 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by teddyFBI
Yes, I too have always been curious about the nature of the threats to Nat...I think I remember him saying that he had been threatened, and people assumed that it was some big burly dude threatening violence, and later he said that it had not necessarily been a physical threat; I'm not exactly sure what else would constitute a threat -- perhaps to his professional or financial interests (??). But I was always hopeful that that might come out. Then - and correct me if I'm wrong - didn't Nat actually go work for AP in some capacity...?.
The threats were general in nature. Not physical, not professional, not financial, etc. As in "he will regret it if he keeps this up"-sort of threats. No way to know what that means.

I have never worked for AP (or any company owned or controlled by AP) unless you count owning equity in (and working for) companies that receive money from AP/UB for ads and referrals. For instance, I own a small chunk of Bluff Media and they get money from AP/UB for ads. However, that condition was present even before the AP scandal cheating even happened.
01-14-2010 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by N 82 50 24
The threats were general in nature. Not physical, not professional, not financial, etc. As in "he will regret it if he keeps this up"-sort of threats. No way to know what that means.

I have never worked for AP (or any company owned or controlled by AP) unless you count owning equity in (and working for) companies that receive money from AP/UB for ads and referrals. For instance, I own a small chunk of Bluff Media and they get money from AP/UB for ads. However, that condition was present even before the AP scandal cheating even happened.
(just wondering and figured I'd ask you since you seem to be in the know) What affiliation, if you know of any, does P5s have with UB?
01-14-2010 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TookURCookie
(just wondering and figured I'd ask you since you seem to be in the know) What affiliation, if you know of any, does P5s have with UB?
I definitely know about P5s... P5s promotes UB. I won't go into detail because talking about things like rakeback might be against the rules but basically P5s is a Cereus affiliate.
01-14-2010 , 11:59 PM
Saw poker2nite today they showed Joe getting KO in the PCA. The guy that KO him didn't even get up to shake his hand. LOL
01-15-2010 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Yomama
Saw poker2nite today they showed Joe getting KO in the PCA.
Hasn't Sebok busted very early from pretty much every big tourney he's played since signing with ub? Not that I really believe in karma, but...
01-15-2010 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MinusEV
Doesn't Sebok bust very early from pretty much every big tourney he plays since/before signing with ub?
FYP
01-15-2010 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by N 82 50 24
The threats were general in nature. Not physical, not professional, not financial, etc. As in "he will regret it if he keeps this up"-sort of threats. No way to know what that means.

I have never worked for AP (or any company owned or controlled by AP) unless you count owning equity in (and working for) companies that receive money from AP/UB for ads and referrals. For instance, I own a small chunk of Bluff Media and they get money from AP/UB for ads. However, that condition was present even before the AP scandal cheating even happened.
hey nat,

as someone instrumental in both the AP and UB cheating scandals, i think it would be really interesting to hear your perspective on the episode looking back now, and everything that has/hasn't happened since.
01-15-2010 , 12:20 PM
i think coltranedog has destroyed this thread and made barry's posts to be at best, irrelevant. a couple points...

what joe seebok has done is immoral. UB was a crooked company and they are a crooked company (they stole millions of dollars!!!) and knowing this, joe seebok takes their money to represent them. contrast this to people who joined UB before the scandal broke, or that other kid who came on here after representing eurolinx(?) who apologized for representing a crooked company who was tricked and didn't know. no matter what he says the facts here are extremely plain.

second... joe seebok is paid by UB. yet his job is to fight UB? this is perverse. the facts here are extremely plain.
01-15-2010 , 12:22 PM
i think the interesting question is, would you accept $1,000,000 cash to tell other people 1) UB is not crooked 2) to play on UB? i'm not sure what i would do.
01-15-2010 , 12:27 PM
In that latest blog post, Joe comes off as smug, arrogant, offensive, and ignorant all at the same time.

This is wildly disgusting. I don't care how many times Joe tells the world he is a nice, honest guy. He is deluded. People who believe him are either stupid or deluded or both.

Enough with the bull****.

Coltranedog is spot on with everything he said. Will it be addressed by Joe? Doubtful. How often do lying, guilty, stupid parties respond to relevant facts about a situation? Close to never. They focus on meaningless bull**** and go about their business kicking and screaming about how good of a job they are doing and how good of a person they are.

Edit: Honestly, I think a lot of things about Joe Sebok, but I had never quite been ready to think that he is unintelligent. Does he really not understand how counterproductive his blog posts are? Sure, a few really stupid people will be appeased. What about the rest of the readers? Does he not even consider the reaction of intelligent people to his conjecture? Does he not care?

Last edited by ASPoker8; 01-15-2010 at 12:33 PM.
01-15-2010 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by theBruiser500
i think coltranedog has destroyed this thread and made barry's posts to be at best, irrelevant. a couple points...

what joe seebok has done is immoral. UB was a crooked company and they are a crooked company (they stole millions of dollars!!!) and knowing this, joe seebok takes their money to represent them. contrast this to people who joined UB before the scandal broke, or that other kid who came on here after representing eurolinx(?) who apologized for representing a crooked company who was tricked and didn't know. no matter what he says the facts here are extremely plain.

second... joe seebok is paid by UB. yet his job is to fight UB? this is perverse. the facts here are extremely plain.
+1. **** Joe Sebok and the Cereus horse he rode in on...

      
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