They also get affiliate codes so they have every incentive to inflate how much they are winning.

And have the ability to sell tournaments at inflated mark-up.

Then again, Stars and Partypoker pros are doing exact same thing.

Also flogging coaching courses is getting abused now as well.

I played some Rush & Cash during the WSOP and won some WSOP Silk Road tickets from the leaderboard races worth 427 dollars. I thought I´d save them because GG Poker said that those WSOP tickets would be converted into tournament dollars after the WSOP.

Well - those tickets haven´t been converted to tournament dollars yet but the real problem is that today after the maintenance my tickets which were worth 427 dollars are now somehow worth 305,56 dollars.

Is anyone having same kind of issues?

And it would be great if someone from GG Poker would explain this.

Weird as F**K.

And now when I checked the value of those tickets are 292,60 dollars.

So first they were worth 427 $ (the real value), then 305 $ and now 292 $.

The value is going down right before my eyes without any apparent reason.

I'm missing about $200 and I've seen some other similar posts. They may be in progress at the moment - if your balance keeps changing it might be true that the system is converting everything. I've emailed support already. We'll see what happens.

I guess they are at the process of turning tickets to T$.

This crossed my mind too but I guess it would be cool to inform players about that.

Let´s see what happens.

The transformation progress is ongoing and will be done later today probably

I asked to customer service about using huds for another site, while logged into ggpoker and they send me an email stating that this was allowed and also send me this link:

https://help.ggpoker.com/article/174...les-are-active

Which says (Emphasis mine): Although GGPoker actively upholds a blanket ban on third party softwares, utilizing these softwares for another poker room while GGPoker’s tables are active is not considered a contravention of the HUD ban, and will not result in an account suspension.

I posted this on the youtube video and looks like my answer got deleted... Not a very reliable video.

So, can you use a hud on Stars while playing on GG, or not?

This site is become beyond a joke...
This new reward system, seems amazing right?
But is directly conect with your PVI, with guess what? GG poker random decide
So at black whale level, lets say, is 1$ rb for every 200 FP collect, but guess what? if the site says you are a '' bad reg '' for the system, your pvi is going to be lower, and is not going to be 1$ for every 200 FP, can be 300 FP for a dolar, or 400, or 1k, who knows ?
Is the same thing GG have ben doing in every area of the site, a loot of '' grey zones '', lack of information for the players, to this guys be able to random take decisions for their own interest
And gueeees what? I complain in discord channel about that, say that is a joke, and get instant banned fron the chanel, next move is going to be banned my acount? lol

Yes, you can.

Pretty funny; 'on average a player will get 100 fpps per $1' - since the average player is a losing player and getting the best FPP rates... So if you pay enough rake in a year to get black whale or shark status 'on average' you will get 50-60% rakeback, but if you are a winning reg who has only deposited once doing this my understanding is you could end up getting some random lower amount like 10-30% then?

You guys realize if the poor players dont get better rack back amounts, then they will go busto more quickly and the games will slow down.

Makes sense. Winning players should be getting less rb and losing players should be getting more rb so they can continue to play and keep games going.

My question is if you're a winning player, what's the best black or regular?

Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.

Yeap.

And the biggest problem is not '''''''only'''''' that, the biggest problem is: you dont know as a player how much your PVI is going to be, there is not ( at lest i cant find ) any explain how that works, so GG can any time, any day, simple say '' ok, lets reduce that '' because he is winning to much money, and you not even going to know! !

That in my opnion is the sickest thing about gg, you really dont have any ideia about how your PVI is going to be!, these random decisions in the dark should be the biggest concern of ALL players. Not some stories about random guys that whe dont really know all the history facts and the truth being '''''' randomly ''''''' banned.

You do realise most people obviously agree with that sentiment. The issue is having zero transparency on rules, rakeback , deposit workings (i.e random agents who can make people accounts and deposit with crypto 3rd in a 3rd party way) etc etc

about bumhunt:

Any doubt that is allowed for some players?

https://gyazo.com/7402530d897034a2303c01672aa354de

Agree. It's ****ing rediculous.

Imagine going to Mcdonald's to buy some fries and you get charged 3x the price of the guy next to you. How would you feel then?
You ask them wtf why? Mcdonald's then give a vague answer about a hidden Customer Value Index.

I can imagine they do not want to give out the formula for there PVI calculation because winning players would then use the info to try game the system.

What factor you get could also be determined by an algorithm that tries to predict whether you are a net withdrawer. And if it is a machine learning model it might not be easily explainable.

ALL gambling companies try to give more and better promotions to 'good customers' (losing players/bettors) and try to minimize or remove offers from 'bad customers'.


If you are winning post-rake then does it matter how much rakeback you get?
As a professional surely just the net winning is the most important.

If you don't think you get much rakeback then don't play. It is obvious that GG don't want the kind of customers that analyse the value of the promotions in the first place.

With all that said I am not defending them. I am merely giving you an inside view of gambling companies and how they think about promotions.

That's not the issue here. The issue is they are marketing it like you get it no matter how good bad you are when the reality is miles away from that. Atleast with stars you know you ain't getting anything back when gg promotes high numbers and don't tell you how the pvi is calculated if you ask them.

Obv not. Only thing that matters is hourly but we are not talking about that we are talking about the shady promoting gg does.

No.

There r many ways to help losing players without using a shady formula that punishes winning players. Simply give losing players deposit bonuses, or even higher rakeback.

What they are doing w PVI is outright LIES. This could be consider fraud. All their marketing material says I should be getting 50% back but Im not. This is what pisses me off.

All their marketing material also has an asterisk and fine print saying something along the lines of "subject to PVI".

There are many things GG have done which could be considered fraud. This isn't one of them.

With the rake GG is taking in the cash games they should be ashamed of themselves for the CASH BACK program they have. It absolutely SUCKS. Unless you play the nosebleed games it's almost impossible to get 750,000 fpps. But then again they have proved time after time that they are shameless anyway, so this bullshit they just pulled with this NEW fpp system does not surprise me one bit. I am looking forward to running into Bryn Kenney somewhere, sometime so I can tell him what a thief and POS he really is for what he allowing on GG.