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GG poker shady BTC withdrawal practices, potentially scamming out of millions on withdraws? GG poker shady BTC withdrawal practices, potentially scamming out of millions on withdraws?

05-22-2021 , 11:26 AM
Sites have two options - lock in the USD-BTC exchange rate when the withdraw is requested, or lock it in when the withdraw is sent. Either way you will potentially experience some fluctuations, both positive and negative, as a customer.

No scam at all, nothing to see here.
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05-22-2021 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
if they are locking in the price at the time of withdrawal request wouldn't they be opening themselves up to get freerolled if someone cancels the withdrawal request if btc price drops?

every single book i have played on has sent me the btc at the price of when the money gets sent - that's how it should be IMO. it greatly reduces the chances of either side freerolling.
Yeah, this. I think they even have a policy to let you cancel the withdraw up to a certain point before it is sent through? I could have just cancelled when I saw BTC starting to tank since it was already 10% lower the next day, but found it hard to believe that I'd get the requested rate and it was locked in since I never encountered a site using this method before, and it would lead to a bunch of freerolling opportunities, i.e. just keep contacting chat to cancel your withdraw until you get a favorable rate over that 1-3 day processing period. I guess they probably have safeguards in place for this and you might get some warnings if you do it repeatedly?

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Originally Posted by OompaLoompa123
GGpoker locks in the price of your btc whenever you press withdraw.
If you weren't aware of this, the fault is on you.
It's made pretty clear when you try to withdraw that the price will be locked in, and it's stated on their website under "Exchange Rates and Volatility of Exchange Rates" (https://en.ggpoker.com/withdrawal-policy/)

I myself have received btc from GGpoker which was locked in at the moment of withdrawal, even when btc had gone up >15% during the time it was being processed.

Pretty hillarious how everyone just assumes you're correct in your allegations because they enjoy pushing the narrative that GGpoker scams people.
May be true in other regards, but I don't think they're at fault at all here.
I mean when you have this kind of ******ed policy in place, besides being the most shady site out there, is it that unusual for people to assume this? Boy cried wolf type of scenario. Not a big deal, I guess I'll just know for the future. I did have a different amount come through from my requested rate of my first Natural8 withdraw a year+ ago, but who knows maybe it was some exception. I guess all the GG peeps in here won't mind when GG suddenly will change their policy on a whim to be in concordance with any sane institution and will get a market rate when they won't expect it.

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Originally Posted by DankGambles
Sites have two options - lock in the USD-BTC exchange rate when the withdraw is requested, or lock it in when the withdraw is sent. Either way you will potentially experience some fluctuations, both positive and negative, as a customer.

No scam at all, nothing to see here.
What other sites lock in the USD-exchange rate at the moment of request? I have never noticed anyone else do this, but maybe I just didn't hit a big BTC fluctuation so far, and didn't really look at all the ToS too in depth and this is just common practice for many others as well.
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05-22-2021 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by OWLS
What other sites lock in the USD-exchange rate at the moment of request?
I mean, this way is clearer fairer than that of other sites (since you know what you will be getting), so what exactly is the problem?
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05-22-2021 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OWLS
Yeah, I have been on the better end of some swings as well, mainly with BOL who processes withdraws almost instantly and have always been top notch.

I get that swings happen and there can sometimes be a spread in place and we don't get the best rates. It's one thing to skim a bit off the top, or have a small spread in place, but to send me the funds 2 days after at 25% below market rate at the time of the transaction, and claim I've been "locked in" to the requested rate, which they never would have honored in case of an appreciation, is beyond ****ed up.

They can pretty much freeroll all big time withdraws in the 50k+ range by waiting a predetermined rate for "security" purposes and then always pocket the fluctuation in their If it's a better rate, you get the old one, if it's a worse rate you get the new one; check out our patented ez profit trick we have added in our bag of shady practices.
I too remember BOL giving positive rates with BTC cashouts but maybe just lol sample size. This was a couple years ago b4 they started doing basically instant cashouts.
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05-22-2021 , 03:00 PM
Well my main issue is that I received 25% less at the time when the transfer was actually sent (in a slowly proccessed withdrawal to boot). Because I got a different rate on my first withdrawal on natural8 more than a year ago I just assumed they'd send at current rates like most sites. I forgot what the difference was, but maybe I got tacked on with additional fees or something. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt then since there's been ppl in this thread who said they always got the rate at the time of request irregardless of fluctuations and, I'll just make a note of it for the future.

But again, it wouldn't surprise me if some big withdrawal requests in the 100k+ range would suddenly not adhere to this policy anymore during fluctuations.

Bump this thread in the future when it happens

Sure GG can hedge their bets in regards to crypto and do not need to skim off the top, or engage in any further shady practices since they already rake enough. But then again neither did UB/AP, FTP, WSEX etc. and it seems to me that so far GG have been doing whatever the hell they want in most cases.
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05-23-2021 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GreatBigRedOne
No way you noticing this is different than people who notice they always get sucked out on.
Do you mean it isn’t true or people get sucked out on GG?

Last edited by Kanedog11; 05-23-2021 at 11:10 AM.
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