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01-11-2013 , 09:58 AM

#26

DoubleDealing13

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Originally Posted by murkmanz

I agree with murderers getting life. Also, pedophiles and serial rapists should get life. And obviously a violent robber deserves to spend a lengthy time in prison. But, if this was a one off/isolated offence with no prior convictions, given his academic success and his relatively young age, i think 30 years minimum is a joke.
(Unless of course, he left a few of them permanently disfigured or disabled)

Having no prior convictions could mean he has never been caught before. And just because he is intelligent, just makes him more of a threat. He is a violent criminal who injures people. Who knows what he could be capable of.

01-11-2013 , 10:13 AM

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Richas

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Originally Posted by murkmanz

I read some recent figures in the UK that murderers are set free after roughly 8 years with good behavior. Sick.

I wonder which comic you read that in?

In the UK murder carries a mandatory life sentence. Each sentence has a mandatory punishment element before which parole (release on licence) is not possible. If released any breach of parole terms or any offence leads to a return to gaol.

The guidelines for the mandatory element are published

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/s...er_cases/#an04

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Starting Points
Schedule 21 sets out the basic starting points.

a) For adults aged 21 years old and over there are 4 starting points:

a whole life order;
30 years;
25 years (effective from 2 March 2010); and
15 years.

b) For 18 - 20 year olds there are three starting points:

30 years;
25 years (effective from 2 March 2010); and
15 years.
c) For youths there is one 12-year starting point.

The same link details which mandatory element offences get by the type of murder and the circumstances around it:

Quote:

Offenders aged 21 years or over
Where the offender is 21 or over at the time of the offence and the court takes the view that the murder is so grave that the offender should spend the rest of his life in prison, a 'whole life order' is the appropriate starting point. The early release provisions in section 28 of the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997 will then not apply. Such an order should only be specified where the court considers that the seriousness of the offence is exceptionally high. Such cases include:

a) the murder of two or more persons where each murder involves a substantial degree of premeditation, the abduction of the victim, or sexual or sadistic conduct;
b) the murder of a child if involving the abduction of the child or sexual or sadistic motivation;
c) a murder done for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause; or
d) a murder by an offender previously convicted of murder.

Where the offence is not so serious as to warrant a whole life order but the seriousness of the offence is particularly high the appropriate starting point is 30 years. The following examples are given:

a) the murder of a police or prison officer in the course of his duty;
b) a murder involving the use of a firearm or explosive;
c) a murder done for gain (in the course of a robbery or burglary, or done for payment);
d) a murder intended to obstruct or interfere with the course of justice;
e) a murder involving sexual or sadistic conduct;
f) the murder of two or more persons; or
g) a murder that is racially or religiously aggravated or aggravated by sexual orientation.

Where the offender the offender took a knife or other weapon to the scene intending to (a) commit any offence, or (b) have it available to use as a weapon, and used that knife or other weapon in committing the murder the normal starting point is 25 years. This increased minimum term does not apply in relation to a life sentence imposed for an offence of murder committed before 2 March 2010.

For all other offences the appropriate starting point is 15 years.

01-11-2013 , 10:16 AM

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tultfill

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Originally Posted by DoubleDealing13

Thats the point. He thought he could get away with it, and if he did get caught he probably didn't think he would get that much time. He violated laws, injured people, and has no regard for his own future. He does not belong in society.

There's so much hate in your conservative way of viewing life. Hate, arrogance, ignorance, intolerance, narrow mindedness. Just a big pile of horsedung that is your personality.

01-11-2013 , 10:21 AM

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Richas

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Originally Posted by murkmanz

Remember that his accomplice is still free. If he had shopped him he would not be looking at this term.

I'm glad that protecting the accomplice comes at a price.

PS It really does not take a rocket scientist to work out that armed robbery and violent assault are -EV. Even if the robbery is for millions it still likely to be -EV.

01-11-2013 , 10:26 AM

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DoubleDealing13

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Originally Posted by tultfill

There's so much hate in your conservative way of viewing life. Hate, arrogance, ignorance, intolerance, narrow mindedness. Just a big pile of horsedung that is your personality.

What if that were your mother or daughter answering that door? After she was pistol whipped in the face, robbed of her purse, and had her pants stolen while her robber taunted her. I'm sure you would be very enlightened, tolerant and open minded. Hell, maybe he if he didn't get caught he could keep doing it and visit you next.

01-11-2013 , 10:30 AM

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murkmanz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Richas

Ok, well i just re-read the article, and it states one out of nine murderers are out after 8 years...
(From the Sun though)
"ONE in nine murderers is freed from prison after serving less than TEN years of their life sentence, shocking figures reveal"

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2Hg3K6H6e

01-11-2013 , 10:30 AM

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Bene Gesserit

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tultfill

There's so much hate in your conservative way of viewing life. Hate, arrogance, ignorance, intolerance, narrow mindedness. Just a big pile of horsedung that is your personality.

Come on man, tell us how you really feel about this thread LOL

01-11-2013 , 10:36 AM

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murkmanz

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Originally Posted by DoubleDealing13

I have to admit, i googled him and read the whole story. It was a pretty vicious and appalling attack. Its still a very heavy sentence though. Nobody died. He didnt shoot anyone. Just to give an example of UK sentences though. A couple of guys from home town were in a nightclub, they got into an argument, one shot the guy, (He survived) and the other slashed the victims friend across the face. They got 11 years and 14 years minimum. Both had history of violence too. Crazy.

01-11-2013 , 10:44 AM

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Duke0424

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Originally Posted by DoubleDealing13

what if it was your son who had a single lapse in judgment/fit of rage/desperate need of money/etc etc whatever it was and just got carried away with a crime? i'm sure you wouldn't be saying the same thing.

01-11-2013 , 10:47 AM

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WhatsA3bet

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lol. Took his mask off while robbing everyone in the apartment.

[x] Genius

01-11-2013 , 10:53 AM

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DoubleDealing13

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Originally Posted by Duke0424

A lapse in judgement, fit of rage, or need of money does not give you the right to assault people. This was a premeditated violent crime. The kid sounds like a sociopath.

01-11-2013 , 10:59 AM

#37

Widespread Panic

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thats a ridiculous sentence.

30 years doesn't take long to say but it is way, WAY too long for that crime.

unbelievable.

10 years sound about right with parole possible after 7 or 8.

if only i were king.

01-11-2013 , 11:08 AM

#38

AnyTwoWillDo

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**** thats so brutal

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