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01-30-2023 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
Real Billy Mitchell vibes in this thread.
Now there’s a name I wasn’t expecting to see mentioned here!
01-31-2023 , 08:26 AM
I will keep this short, well I will try too. If you can’t see it just ask me more about it. I find it quite surprising that I don’t think anyone has noticed this and put two and two together.

You do also realise in the investigation the casino didn’t release outside camera footage of the main floor.

Cliffs: Floor man (dude in white shirt) and Robbie are in on it. He goes onto main floor and signals Robbie. He gets the info from Bryan. Watch body language. Robbie eyes. Action. Hands. Etc

Please just spend 5 minutes and watch Robbie Vs Eric hand. Watch Robbie’s eyes. Watch where floor man is. Watch his actions. Watch Robbie’s actions. Watch her eyes. It’s apparent that Robbie and the floor man are involved in this. He’s seeing the cards off the main stage, then she looks and he signals. I can type heaps more on his actions and hers and body language and all that but trying to keep it short sorry. Even when she’s in a hand earlier with Ivey she looks over at him lol. I’ve had this for a while but I don’t have a platform or anyone to show.

1hr20 in.

https://www.youtube.com/live/pR_PWVGUMVQ?feature=share

Once you take a look at it and where floorman is when all her hands take place and you can’t notice anything I’ll walk myself out.

I have been following this thread for a while just lurking.

Peace ✌️
01-31-2023 , 08:30 AM
Ohh **** and watch what Garrett says to Robbie right after the hand! Robbie via erik. That’s when he first starts to realise something might not be right…

Edit: 1:54:39 - watch till end of hand Robbie’s KK vs MikeX.
Look how pissed floor man is again in background he storms off when mike hits his ace. At very least he’s watching the hand and has an interest in it he’s also enjoying a meal when hand takes place and leaves his meal to go for a walk when ace hits. Bryan is texting him!

https://www.youtube.com/live/pR_PWVGUMVQ?feature=share

Last edited by Jezza88; 01-31-2023 at 08:50 AM. Reason: Edit
01-31-2023 , 08:40 AM
You should have stayed lurking.
01-31-2023 , 11:34 AM
I played in a game where 1 of 7 players cheated. Over time another player discovered what player 1 was doing, and started doing it as well. Then over more time a third player discovered what they were doing and started doing it.

The game ran for more than ten years and had two whales in it.

The cheat didn't guarantee you won the hand but it did give you a huge edge. So whales won just enough of the time to keep them in.

The three players never discussed the cheat but knew about and tolerated each other.

There were times in the game where two of the three players would clash. One player executed the cheat, but another would also have a made hand. These hands usually had three outcomes.

They were either played softly, which would be met with accusations of splitting winnings at the end of the game. Or if the dealer i.e. the executer of the cheat won the hand, there would be an immediate request for him to pay up fictional money he owed to player 2 - i.e. basically giving him back the money he lost in the pot. Lastly if player 2 won the hand that was fair game, as they hadn't cheated.

This scandal stinks of something similar.

The most likely scenario here is more than one player at the table had access to hand information, but there was a gentleman's agreement to never use it on someone in the know.

That agreement was broken and we now have a mexican stand off.
01-31-2023 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Oh there was evidence Robbi cheated? Point it out to me

I don’t care about HCL
Crickets on this?

So it was a clean report
01-31-2023 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Zilong_Zhanax
I played in a game where 1 of 7 players cheated. Over time another player discovered what player 1 was doing, and started doing it as well. Then over more time a third player discovered what they were doing and started doing it.

The game ran for more than ten years and had two whales in it.

The cheat didn't guarantee you won the hand but it did give you a huge edge. So whales won just enough of the time to keep them in.

The three players never discussed the cheat but knew about and tolerated each other.

There were times in the game where two of the three players would clash. One player executed the cheat, but another would also have a made hand. These hands usually had three outcomes.

They were either played softly, which would be met with accusations of splitting winnings at the end of the game. Or if the dealer i.e. the executer of the cheat won the hand, there would be an immediate request for him to pay up fictional money he owed to player 2 - i.e. basically giving him back the money he lost in the pot. Lastly if player 2 won the hand that was fair game, as they hadn't cheated.

This scandal stinks of something similar.

The most likely scenario here is more than one player at the table had access to hand information, but there was a gentleman's agreement to never use it on someone in the know.

That agreement was broken and we now have a mexican stand off.
This actually makes the most sense.. in before triggered responses to this
01-31-2023 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Zilong_Zhanax
I played in a game where 1 of 7 players cheated. Over time another player discovered what player 1 was doing, and started doing it as well. Then over more time a third player discovered what they were doing and started doing it.

The game ran for more than ten years and had two whales in it.

The cheat didn't guarantee you won the hand but it did give you a huge edge. So whales won just enough of the time to keep them in.

The three players never discussed the cheat but knew about and tolerated each other.

There were times in the game where two of the three players would clash. One player executed the cheat, but another would also have a made hand. These hands usually had three outcomes.

They were either played softly, which would be met with accusations of splitting winnings at the end of the game. Or if the dealer i.e. the executer of the cheat won the hand, there would be an immediate request for him to pay up fictional money he owed to player 2 - i.e. basically giving him back the money he lost in the pot. Lastly if player 2 won the hand that was fair game, as they hadn't cheated.

This scandal stinks of something similar.

The most likely scenario here is more than one player at the table had access to hand information, but there was a gentleman's agreement to never use it on someone in the know.

That agreement was broken and we now have a mexican stand off.
What was the cheat?
01-31-2023 , 01:08 PM
I used to play in a game where 6 of 8 players were colluding, I knew they probably were, and still won 30 sessions in a row
01-31-2023 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
What was the cheat?
Very simple. We played five card draw with three wild jokers. If we had a full game much was shuffled and dealt to the last couple of players if needed.

The deal was rotated so once an orbit the deck was stacked, a joker was put in the nth position, and either one or two jokers was dealt by the dealer to himself. The pack was shuffled without disturbing the first 10/20% of the deck.

It was lucrative as we played an awards system. For a royal flush every one at the table had to give the winner $40, straight flush $20, 5 of a kind $20 (with 5 of a kind beating SF), four of a kind $16 and a full house $8.

If you got any of the above without a wild card your award was doubled - so you got $80 for a Royal flush and so on. This actually happened to me once.
01-31-2023 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
I used to play in a game where 6 of 8 players were colluding, I knew they probably were, and still won 30 sessions in a row
Nah, everyone knows more than 1 person is a conspiracy theory and therefore you're just shizo.
01-31-2023 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
Nah, everyone knows more than 1 person is a conspiracy theory and therefore you're just shizo.
It was Stud on PokerStars a long time ago, the entire table was from Changle, China, kept on playing and kept on winning

F’em imo
01-31-2023 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
I used to play in a game where 6 of 8 players were colluding, I knew they probably were, and still won 30 sessions in a row
01-31-2023 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jezza88
I will keep this short, well I will try too. If you can’t see it just ask me more about it. I find it quite surprising that I don’t think anyone has noticed this and put two and two together.

You do also realise in the investigation the casino didn’t release outside camera footage of the main floor.

Cliffs: Floor man (dude in white shirt) and Robbie are in on it. He goes onto main floor and signals Robbie. He gets the info from Bryan. Watch body language. Robbie eyes. Action. Hands. Etc

Please just spend 5 minutes and watch Robbie Vs Eric hand. Watch Robbie’s eyes. Watch where floor man is. Watch his actions. Watch Robbie’s actions. Watch her eyes. It’s apparent that Robbie and the floor man are involved in this. He’s seeing the cards off the main stage, then she looks and he signals. I can type heaps more on his actions and hers and body language and all that but trying to keep it short sorry. Even when she’s in a hand earlier with Ivey she looks over at him lol. I’ve had this for a while but I don’t have a platform or anyone to show.

1hr20 in.

https://www.youtube.com/live/pR_PWVGUMVQ?feature=share

Once you take a look at it and where floorman is when all her hands take place and you can’t notice anything I’ll walk myself out.

I have been following this thread for a while just lurking.

Peace ✌️
Quoting for visibility.

Why? Okay there’s a bunch of accounts that HCL Live have created on 2p2 in an attempt to hide users posts, wether the allegations are real or not it’s very concerning. They will write a long post to change the topic by typing about something unrelated and use the accounts to try change the view of many users on here.

Raver poker is the one doing this. Look at when these 2p2 accounts are created, the threads they view, what they type.

@MasonMalmuth - please do an IP check or something on a bunch of users posting in here. Thanks
01-31-2023 , 07:49 PM
Its about time a certain discord group releases the info they promised us last Christmas. This has gone on long enough!
01-31-2023 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jezza88

@MasonMalmuth - please do an IP check or something on a bunch of users posting in here. Thanks
Not anything Mason can do these days. He sold the site a while back.
01-31-2023 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
Is this real
No, The Rock with Garret’s face photoshopped on him in fact did not respond to Robbi’s text.
01-31-2023 , 08:52 PM
Mods prob aren’t going to waste their time doing IP checks but it would definitely be entertaining if they did. Although I have a feeling it would probably out more anti-HCL/Robbi folks than it would the other side.
02-01-2023 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jezza88
Raver poker is the one doing this. Look at when these 2p2 accounts are created, the threads they view, what they type.
Great find
02-01-2023 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jezza88
Cliffs: Floor man (dude in white shirt) and Robbie are in on it. He goes onto main floor and signals Robbie. He gets the info from Bryan. Watch body language. Robbie eyes. Action. Hands. Etc
Yes, the floorman was signaling Robbi/Rip, probably with help from Beanz as well. The floorman's name is Luis.

It is so strange that you can tell just from watching the stream footage that Robbi definitely cheated, yet most people seem to think she is innocent.
02-01-2023 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Eskaborr
Its about time a certain discord group releases the info they promised us last Christmas. This has gone on long enough!
02-01-2023 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Strange Occurrence
Haven’t kept up with this story of late. Anybody who’s not a troll mind sharing any details since the HCL report came out that ended as expected? I’m assuming nothing much from a brief scroll through recent pages.
Nick Vertucci has done two shows with Robbi on his youtube channel. They were mostly bs, tho there were some hilarious moments. Like when Robbi claimed that she plays $5k/$10k private games in Miami and when Nick was "asking for a friend" if Robbi will start an onlyfans. One relevant takeaway that I remember is Nick revealed that “a random 3rd party person” with “really good intelligence” told Nick that the place Robbi went to get the lie detector test will let people retake the test until they pass. Nick also made it seem like the 3rd party person said that Robbi did in fact take the test a couple times because she initially failed.


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Originally Posted by Strange Occurrence
To be fair, as worded, they can both be true. They could have asked initially, been denied or even accepted, and then on the advice of counsel not actually conducted.

Bit of a convenient conclusion though to her being unwilling to take one with Bulletproof unless everyone else took one. Which was never going to happen. Also weird that even late into the investigation we heard Bulletproof and HCL were still asking her to take their poly if legal counsel advised against it.

I would assume they had legal counsel to begin all this, so why were they ok with the poly for most of the investigation, and then at the very end when she was still unwilling, they "advised" them not to conduct it?
HCL had legal counsel since at least October 6th.

https://twitter.com/HCLPokerShow/sta...69889788862464

I would love to hear a lawyer's opinion on if there is a legitimate legal reason for why a law firm would initially support polygraph testing, and then change their mind a month later. I have a feeling the answer is 'no', but regardless, I'm sure this is another cop out by Nick.

I bet what happened is that on November 3rd, Nick still had hope that Robbi was innocent. But by December 14th, Nick realized that Robbi definitely cheated.


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Originally Posted by Strange Occurrence
The best and possibly only time to find conclusive evidence would have been the night of the incident, but understandably IMO they didn't pursue it that aggressively. HCL doesn't have the authority to detain, interrogate, and search players based on an accusation by another player alone. And that's not really conducive to building a welcoming environment for high stakes players anyway.
Rip offered to let Nick search his bag and Robbi's bag on the night of the J4 incident and Nick refused. That is what you do when you don't really want to find anything. Nick wouldn't have found anything, but the fact that he was afraid to look says a lot.
02-01-2023 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by justiceforgman
Nick Vertucci has done two shows with Robbi on his youtube channel. They were mostly bs, tho there were some hilarious moments. Like when Robbi claimed that she plays $5k/$10k private games in Miami and when Nick was "asking for a friend" if Robbi will start an onlyfans. One relevant takeaway that I remember is Nick revealed that “a random 3rd party person” with “really good intelligence” told Nick that the place Robbi went to get the lie detector test will let people retake the test until they pass. Nick also made it seem like the 3rd party person said that Robbi did in fact take the test a couple times because she initially failed.




HCL had legal counsel since at least October 6th.

https://twitter.com/HCLPokerShow/sta...69889788862464

I would love to hear a lawyer's opinion on if there is a legitimate legal reason for why a law firm would initially support polygraph testing, and then change their mind a month later. I have a feeling the answer is 'no', but regardless, I'm sure this is another cop out by Nick.

I bet what happened is that on November 3rd, Nick still had hope that Robbi was innocent. But by December 14th, Nick realized that Robbi definitely cheated.




Rip offered to let Nick search his bag and Robbi's bag on the night of the J4 incident and Nick refused. That is what you do when you don't really want to find anything. Nick wouldn't have found anything, but the fact that he was afraid to look says a lot.
Police report being filed is a reason. Once criminal charges are involved, nobody should talk to anybody about the crime
02-01-2023 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by justiceforgman
Yes, the floorman was signaling Robbi/Rip, probably with help from Beanz as well. The floorman's name is Luis.

It is so strange that you can tell just from watching the stream footage that Robbi definitely cheated, yet most people seem to think she is innocent.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who can see this when looking close. Watch the hand where Robbie gets it aipf w/kk against mike X AJ. He’s having dinner in the back ground. He’s eating and looking at his phone. The floor lady walks over and he sort of swipes up of left to hide what he’s looking at.

Robbie then gets out flopped and he suddenly stops his dinner mid way and walks behind the set up the hallway which is the way towards the control room. I’m sure he’s getting a message from someone in the control room who told him that.
02-01-2023 , 12:40 PM
The floorman signalling is a more convincing theory than Eric P signalling at least

      
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