This must be the good faith discussion the cheat camp is so famous for!

This 1outeronriver lady doth protest too much

perfect example of the disingenuous BS that is spewed on a daily basis in this thread

I just think it's traditional to come to conclusions after you've looked at and compiled the data, rather than before, but maybe I'm old fashioned that way.

i give you credit for the research and compilation of info, its good to look at and definitely some odd stares etc so something to consider

I don’t see why you’re assuming otherwise.

A rare contribution by the illusive MrMiragi. Care to elaborate? I don’t see how my question can be considered disingenuous.

The first fifty times you posted a variant of this rant, you included a demand that Garrett also return the $135k to Robbi's backers. Have you moved off that demand?

You posted the same question twice in ten minutes even though it was obviously not what the poster was talking about. People are saying this is 100% case closed... OK, show us why.

I also already made a post saying to stop teasing us (to the data people who say there is a serious cheating ring at Hustler), so that person you responded to is not the only one feeling like they are being teased. Admittedly, I'm not holding missing that against you as there are many posts..

This has as much new information as Garrett's OP in the megathread when he made it...none. Congrats on wasting your time

A+

I repeated the question because scaredyfish responded without addressing it at all. You both seem to expect the conclusions of the investigation in question to be released already. You both seem to think that two weeks following an announcement is a reasonable timeline to expect said results to be compiled and published for public viewing.

I am simply asking if scaredyfish, and I guess I will extend the question to you, has some sort of prior experience or knowledge that is leading him to the conclusion that the results of said investigation should be available for public consumption at this time.

Did the HCL discord group promise that their investigation would be concluded with all results made available in a report by this date? If so, I must have missed it and apologize.

i accept your apology and extend to you my own unconditional apologetic regards

They further discredit their own argument with the so-called "cheating evidence." A while back, I looked at several of the "cheating" example videos and had to stop because I was laughing so hard. The example I recall was the third example. I think it was Stanley who had a straddle & blinds to the right, several players yet to act on the left and he folded 53o ... and this was claimed as a legitimate example of a cheat. LMAO!

Smells like another big steaming pile, if there was legit reason to be in fear for one's life, this would be the very first thing to go public with.

But the OP is not trying to be witty, he's hoping to be informative. And in such a situation, it's better to be comprehensive, thorough and even exhaustive.

This thread has been a treasure trove of laughs imo. I've checked it considerably less often as of late, but always laugh my ass off when I catch up.

There is nothing here that hasn’t already been exhausted in the other thread.

Mods get rid of this it’ll just be another nut job like the other thread.

The new information hasn’t even been released yet and this is just going to put a damper on it if people keep making threads with already known information constructed and compiled the exact same.

I responded without answering your question, because your question is based on a faulty assumption.

I have no expectation that two weeks or two months or two years is a reasonable timeframe. I'm saying that their public comments seem to indicate they have already come to a conclusion about cheating, so either they have finished 'compiling data', or they are 'compiling data' solely to confirm their existing conclusion.

Let's skip the page after page of rampant speculation and get right to the "Conclusion" which doesn't actually state anything conclusive.

"10. Conclusion
One thing the Robbi side has gotten very wrong is trying to argue that Robbi/Rip canÂ’t possibly be cheating because if they were cheating, that would mean they didnÂ’t cheat in the most GTO optimal way possible. Â… ItÂ’s only the bad cheaters that get caught! Probably after they make a mistake like mixing up the RFID numbers for the 4h and 6c. If someone was good at cheating, you would never know. So if you catch someone cheating, itÂ’s not going to look like a GTO cheating strategy. ItÂ’s going to look like a failed cheating attempt. Which is exactly what I think this is."

Normally when one is trying to make an important point in a speech or paper, the strategy is tell people what you're going to tell them, then tell them, then tell them what you told them. Your "conclusion" doesn't align in any way with or accurately summarize your lengthy diatribe.

But enough of all that, let's cut right to the chase. The focus of your cheat argument, like so many others, is on the 4h/6c card swaps, so let's just blow that one clean out of the water, shall we?
1) All decks and all cards have to be accounted for. The casino is required to maintain a record of all decks and all cards. Records would clearly show like for like swaps, from which deck, at which time, etc., etc.
2) Sami is the dealer during both card swap sequences. Not only is he a recent WSOPC main event champion, not a single person anywhere has accused him of any illegal or shady shenanigans.
3) Most important of all is the fact that the 4h was replaced in one deck and the 6c was replaced in the other deck. Your explanation and those of others make it seem these were replaced in the same deck, and therefore an alleged key to the alleged cheat. If the 4h was replaced in one deck and the 6c was replaced in the other deck, then how could there possibly be any correlation with the J4o hand? This can be confirmed in two ways.
3a) First, the 4h is replaced and that deck is put into the shuffler. The next hand is played with the second deck, from which the 6c was replaced.
3b) Second, this can be confirmed by looking at the card back colors. The deck with 4h appears to be bluish back. The deck with the 6c appears to be reddish back.

Yeah this thread hasn't been vetted by the CIA like Koshkos, please advise mods!

Please refer to my depth charge here. I look forward to your response.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...7&postcount=21

I'm worried for strange occurrence, have the robbi schills kidnapped him? Where did he go? Strange occurence indeed. I'll ask my handler, I didn't sign up for kidnapping!

rant with no idea how she cheated..per usual

all she had to do was say she was shitfaced or on xanax and this all would have been a non story especially since she looked like she was both

So you’re also operating on a few dubious assumptions.

Too funny, LMAO!

APB, BOLO, 911, wee-ooo, wee-ooo! LMAO!