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10-11-2022 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by donniccolo

Finally, please will one pro cheat and one anti cheat person each post an accounting of the supposed cheating rings earnings in each show? From what I have seen it looks like you are claiming people are cheating yet those people are net down overall. Quite a weird claim.
One theory is they are not very good at cheating. Stick anal beads up their arse then give the money back later that evening? In my book amateurs. The only person looking smart here is Ivey who (allegedly) took 10 chocolate chips of Garrett's stack when he left the table.
10-11-2022 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TomHimself
there are definitely people that put bulky costanza type wallets in their back pockets and keep it there when they sit down.

just saying
A different image, if this was taken after he reached into his pocket then looks like false alarm. That’s the keyfab.

10-11-2022 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ktr
What about Eric?
He is also down a lot since Rip and Robbie's first game, and he is down something like $750,000 for the year.
10-11-2022 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ktr
A different image, if this was taken after he reached into his pocket then looks like false alarm. That’s the keyfab.

He still has yet to explain the object in my original photo. The gray part at the top in this photo is clearly the fob, but the silver part on the object in my photo is clearly not his wallet. Looks to me like he is holding both the wallet and phone in his hand and trying to use the wallet to cover the phone.

10-11-2022 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nippleman
There is evidence she didn't cheat as well. Calling drawing dead into Garret in another hand, several other plays that don't make sense if she knew the hold cards, or had some signal that she was best/should fold.
If Garrett does not have a made hand then she can raise the river and win.

They are not 100% omniscient. When they need help, in a crucial spot they ask for it. She does not know that she is drawing dead until the river.

This is the time chip hand. 10 seconds after throwing in her time chip her chair shakes and she immediately folds. I have never seen a timechip used and then a snap fold 10 seconds later.
10-11-2022 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
plenty of evidence so far, no actual proofs but lots of evidence
Evidence would be - Bryan coming out of Robbie's house the day or week prior to the game.
Proof would be - CCTV footage of them discussing the mechanisms of the operation.

You can, or even should, get a guilty verdict where evidence of this quality mounts up.

I've not seen any evidence of this quality at all, so far
10-11-2022 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
Evidence would be - Bryan coming out of Robbie's house the day or week prior to the game.
Proof would be - CCTV footage of them discussing the mechanisms of the operation.

You can, or even should, get a guilty verdict where evidence of this quality mounts up.

I've not seen any evidence of this quality at all, so far
10-11-2022 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
Berkey is a Berk. Chap wears a Baeseball hat- sign of protozoan idiocy, back to front- confirmation of an immunity to beauty or truth.

He also is adamant Robbie cheated and now at DAY 11 not an iota of evidence has appeared that she did.

Avoid!
At this point I have no idea if she cheated or not. I think things are deeper than they seemed before and Nick will never release footage of everything because at some point the negaitive press if it is found there is wide spread cheating going on would shut down his operation.

I don’t like Berkey’s takes on a lot of things. Nor do I regularly listen because their podcast bores me. And maybe he isn’t as squeaky clean as he comes off. But he is seemingly unbiased in his pursuit of putting an end to any and all cheating and brings up a very good point. Why. T F. Are they still open to do business with an investigation ongoing into one of the two biggest cheating possibilities of all time? With humongous leaks in security. Have they come out with any massive changes they have made yet? If this was a restaurant the Health Department would have shut them down over a week ago.

He must be making the Casino enough new money that they don’t mind at all and have not said a single word about the entire fiasco.
10-11-2022 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordie
I have seen this term a lot recently. Is it a typo or is it legitimately an alternate term for hole cards?
Typo on my end. I haven't seen anyone else make that mistake, but perhaps I have just missed it.
10-11-2022 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by XcrazylegsX
He still has yet to explain the object in my original photo. The gray part at the top in this photo is clearly the fob, but the silver part on the object in my photo is clearly not his wallet. Looks to me like he is holding both the wallet and phone in his hand and trying to use the wallet to cover the phone.

The most important takeaway from this DGAF clip is that DGAF isn't trying to be sneaky at all. He is rifling through his wallet in plain sight of the whole table with absolutely no regard for stealth. If he was trying to fish a cheating device off his person, there is no way he would do it like this.
10-11-2022 , 02:59 PM
So much drama, Poker is predatory and dirty. They prey on people to run these streams, RIP and Robbi were the prey offered up to Garrett, Andy ect.

I know it and Garrett knows it too.

Turns out the prey have guns to, I think it's f hilarious.



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10-11-2022 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbertoe
Any decent cheating scheme would HAVE to include making plays that made it look like you were not cheating. The unfortunate thing for her is it is very easy to make those plays in smaller pots to make it look like she is not cheating, but takes a little more smarts to pick the big pots to cheat on. She picked a horrible spot for the big pot.
And any decent scheme wouldn't have picked the spot to make a stand.

That's the paradox, isn't it? The cheating crowd has to accept she was so dumb to pick that spot to take money, but clever enough to cover her tracks on other hands?
10-11-2022 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nippleman
And any decent scheme wouldn't have picked the spot to make a stand.



That's the paradox, isn't it? The cheating crowd has to accept she was so dumb to pick that spot to take money, but clever enough to cover her tracks on other hands?
It's highly likely that nothing of substance will come from this investigation.

Hustler will tighten security, that is the only good thing to come from this.

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10-11-2022 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by happy to be hear
If Garrett does not have a made hand then she can raise the river and win.

They are not 100% omniscient. When they need help, in a crucial spot they ask for it. She does not know that she is drawing dead until the river.

This is the time chip hand. 10 seconds after throwing in her time chip her chair shakes and she immediately folds. I have never seen a timechip used and then a snap fold 10 seconds later.
It just doesn't make sense. The call on the turn just doesn't add up, and Garret is a player who will likely barrel even when he misses so bluffing him off his hand won't work. Dismissing that point is just cherry picking at that point.
10-11-2022 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mewally
It's highly likely that nothing of substance will come from this investigation.

Hustler will tighten security, that is the only good thing to come from this.

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I don't disagree. This will go back and forth until the next crazy play that gives us something to talk about. My money is on Armenian Mike making a splash again.
10-11-2022 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Theres literally 0 evidence, just a bunch of gossip
You are lucky they changed the definition of literally or your post would literally be laughable(though it still is).
10-11-2022 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by larry the legend
At this point I have no idea if she cheated or not. I think things are deeper than they seemed before and Nick will never release footage of everything because at some point the negaitive press if it is found there is wide spread cheating going on would shut down his operation.

I don’t like Berkey’s takes on a lot of things. Nor do I regularly listen because their podcast bores me. And maybe he isn’t as squeaky clean as he comes off. But he is seemingly unbiased in his pursuit of putting an end to any and all cheating and brings up a very good point. Why. T F. Are they still open to do business with an investigation ongoing into one of the two biggest cheating possibilities of all time? With humongous leaks in security. Have they come out with any massive changes they have made yet? If this was a restaurant the Health Department would have shut them down over a week ago.

He must be making the Casino enough new money that they don’t mind at all and have not said a single word about the entire fiasco.
If he was ''unbiased'' , or an Adult, he'd say there is no evidence of cheating, so far.

I think his point about shutting down is worth considering, as Hustler have decided to launch an investigation (seemingly due to a hunch of one of the players at the table that night_. However it's of note other than the chap to Adelstein's left, Andy?, the other players did not seem interested in the cheating accusation and people are still keen to play there, presumably thinking the allegation is false. If a Casino shut down every time a player lost a big hand to a 'surprising' call and cried ''cheat'' many might not stay open for long
10-11-2022 , 03:13 PM
You guys still circle jerking over this huh?
10-11-2022 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by peckx063
The most important takeaway from this DGAF clip is that DGAF isn't trying to be sneaky at all. He is rifling through his wallet in plain sight of the whole table with absolutely no regard for stealth. If he was trying to fish a cheating device off his person, there is no way he would do it like this.
Interesting. I find it to be exactly the opposite. He takes a lot of care to be stealthy.
10-11-2022 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nippleman
It just doesn't make sense. The call on the turn just doesn't add up, and Garret is a player who will likely barrel even when he misses so bluffing him off his hand won't work. Dismissing that point is just cherry picking at that point.
It adds up if Robbie believed she had a 3, not a 4, as many have speculated she may well have, or at that stage of the hand. It also adds up if money was not an important consideration and/or she was 'fed up' with Garrett's aggressive ''bluffing'' and thought for 'shits and giggles' calling with a hand with a 20-30% chance, as she may have calculated it, of winning was at that juncture worth pursuing.
10-11-2022 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RJT
It’s utterly astounding with all the pundits, talking heads, tweets, posts etc.; no one is talking about the HOW. This should be the starting point!

Best I’ve heard is an earpiece. Doesn’t tell us how her co-conspirator sent the signals.
And if he could get away with it unnoticed. I find it hard to believe for example Bryan was in control room sending her code and no one noticed anything.

The investigation is going to fail 1) they won’t find a hack in the system 2) if devices used those are long gone.

The sad part is that it’s hard to prove a negative. That she didn’t cheat.
Correct.
10-11-2022 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by happy to be hear
Interesting. I find it to be exactly the opposite. He takes a lot of care to be stealthy.
Go back like 30 seconds and you see him going through his wallet like a maniac
10-11-2022 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
One theory is they are not very good at cheating. Stick anal beads up their arse then give the money back later that evening? In my book amateurs. The only person looking smart here is Ivey who (allegedly) took 10 chocolate chips of Garrett's stack when he left the table.
Charles this isn't your native Scotland, I said it before when you take over the account you need to focus, anal beads go up one's "ass" in America.
10-11-2022 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HexBreaker
For the period since Rip and Robbie's first appearance, and for the year...

Robbie is up $254,650. I assume this does not count her giving money back to Garret.

Rip is down $83,605

Beanz is down $6,090 for this period and he is down over $150,000 for the year.

Nik Airball did not play during this period but is up over $93,000 for the year.

https://www.trackingpoker.com/


I posted it a while ago. They just immediately edit the information out of their reality.
Thank you! So if they were cheating, they would be up a little bit based on the prevailing theories of who is involved?
10-11-2022 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by larry the legend
The only ones with agendas in that post are Bart sticking up for his employers and Nick getting mad at common Sense.

Whatever they think his agenda is, he talks about all things poker on his podcast. Nothing he said about they should be shut down until security is updated is untrue or uncalled for. What Bart said about everyone making their own decisions is true. But if they are uninformed and things keep on going like they have been, then why is he upset someone is questioning obviously unsafe practices? If someone did not bring further light to the subject then who would?

In the end we have a bunch of money and power being thrown around. Everyone kisses Nick’s ass and that’s the way he likes it. It would not surprise me if he asked Bart to tweet support for him. Things need to change. Unfortunately there are ample reports of him being a horrendous person as a real estate scammer and people will do anything to protect their own interests. Wanting to play on the stream, be paid to commentate and have notoriety, and most of all keeping this money train rolling with only minor lessons learned.

Nick is obviously very smart. He knows how to get the money flowing. He is a freight train that way and refuses to slow down. He also seems to have a major problem with doing things the right way or being told he is not doing things properly. Hard working to get the money. The worst at following any kind of ethical or business standards. Confirmed by his tweets. His many many condescending tweets to people.
Well said. And what’s amazing is that if you actually run the business properly, you will likely be more efficient and more profitable. Guys like that just don’t get it. They literally don’t know what they don’t know and are not willing to learn.

      
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