2 things I really like about this show

1. It's not behind a paywall

2. 3 episodes per week

Luther's fourth and fifth pick were horrific, she is invited to any of my draft leagues, no matter the sport.

The most interesting part to me about the latest episode is the argument where Jungle is calling out Yoh Viral for trying to hog all the opportunities to accumulate coins for himself.

It creates a weird dynamic where these "teams" want to work together to survive to the next round, but at the same time are at odds with one another and want to prevent each other from getting extra coins for a larger stack in the finale.

Was watching some old school WPT and wondering what size fields they get these days and what the payouts are. Then I found that Kyna final tabled the WPT Venetian in 2021.

With 9 players left, Kyna was chip leader with 30% of the chips in play. Grinder busted 9th and Nacho busted 8th. Kyna lost a flip then turned a straight when her opponent turned a flush which left her crippled. She managed to hang on for 3rd place and a $450k payday.

You should get penalized a gold coin every time you say “Let’s go”.

Jungleman naps have been amazing lol

Ali Nejad is way too serious.


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Its pretty amazing when you think about it when you look at some of those early WPT's. I wonder what those prize pools would have looked like if they had reentry back in the day. Season 5 World Championship, $25k and a 15m prize pool all on one bullet. The LA Poker Classic that same year, 791 players in a 10k on 1 bullet. Those numbers would be insane if they did late entry and reentry. Reentry saved tournament poker outside of the main WSOP.

Nejad is so cringe with everything he does

His EV argument seems completely false. Something about skill is more likely to prevail the more hands you play. Why the **** would it matter if you go 1st 2nd or 3rd in that case. So what if you go 3rd and you don't have to play, your team already won, it doesn't matter that you didn't get any hands in to let 'skill prevail'.

Unless I am missing something, they all give the team the same amount of EV assuming no other outside forces like pressure or momentum come into play. Obviously there are selfish larger game reasons to go first, but I don't think it has any impact on the results of the team match.

if there were ties or say a quick victory resulted in more points or something instead of binary outcomes then what he said would have been accurate so it's possible he wasn't just thinking about deeply since he was obviously tired

but more likely i think that was his diplomatic way of saying "you're going last each time"

her argument was terrible though - "you're putting all the pressure on me"

but with yo likely to sweep all 3 it is sure demonstrating the personal benefit of going first



i'm actually impressed with ali - idk if those scenes were edited or he had producers talking into his ear, but i feel like he did a very good job of asking drama inspiring questions

Maybe I'm misremembering how it went. But didn't a player receive bonus coins if they eliminated someone? I thought Jungles issue was that Yoh Viral already had the most coins out of all the competitors, and this will eventually be a winner-take-all situation.

So if Yoh gets to go first and eliminates all three of the other teams players, he scoops up a bunch of bonus coins while his two teammates who have less coins than him, don't get that advantage of bonus coins.

Or were the bonus coins split evenly between everyone on the team that wins?

Olga is a rocket

the only legit strategy in this winner takes all format from a players perspective is to maximize "gold coins", you'll team will eventually survire the round if you can accumulate a lot coins, and basicly doesn't matter if your team busts because of your fault/bad luck.

in the final 1 gold coin will be translated to 1 big blind, you'll be practically drawing dead with a 100+ big blinds deficit, the team aspect is very overrated. Jungle already has a 120bb deficit on Viral.

Luther's strategy was not that bad for picking two **** players (relative to field) and she was lucky to not play jungle in the first match, just couldn't execute on the table. of course they are underdogs, but no real point in laddering to top9 if you have 30 coins, while some players already have 300.

Robin had Yo down to the rails, almost had him, and then he came back. Yo have been very lucky with the runouts overall.

For team ev it's better for the better players to go last since they get to watch the opponent play in the first/second round and may find ways to exploit them.

100% agree on the team aspect being overrated, no one is getting voted off an island. You can get eliminated if you are on a poor team for finishing last, but in the end it helps trying to maximize as many gold coins as possible. If Yoh sweeps all 3 players he wins 30 coins per elimination. The part I'm not sure about is does the team only get the 100 coin bonus for winning the round 2 winners match? If so lets say Yoh sweeps 6 players, that's 180 coins + 100 team. He makes 280 while his team only gets 100 each. Going first is the move

In the end they will be playing a turbo SNG. 20 min blinds and wild blind jumps. Having a 300bb lead can get cut down easily. The blinds in a 6 person SNG will be going up every orbit and half depending on how slow production is. Great thing is the format should create action, I just have trouble believing knowing what I know about poker players that the $432,000 won't get chopped up.

If yoh team wins round 1, I assume they can start someone else for round 2. Would be pretty funny if his team agrees to let yoh continue playing first.

From your mouth to god's ears. Please make it so.

The order can matter if certain players match up particularly well or poorly against certain players on the other team.

I think people are overly concerned about the team aspect and not enough about the individual. I assume Jungles concern is he doesn't want to get to the HU abd face Yoh with say a 2-1 chip disadvantage. Unless I'm missing something this is a winner takes all situation and 2nd gets zero just like last.

stolen from Reddit, but feel like "Weekend at Jungles" with him being in the Bernie Lomax role would've been even better

From a individual stand point max ev for everyone is to go first, from team point of ev you should have people go in order of their skill level. Jungle is easily the best player in that entire room when it comes to HU and it's not even close. I assume he didn't push himself to go first because of him 1) being nice 2) not being team leader possibly.. Cant remember who or whom it was, but lol at the other players making comments about not jungle being the best or whatever. I'm not entirely sure about picks but Josh should have went 4th or 5th pick in Nikitas team for sure.

This show is only a success if it ends up Jungle vs Yoh with Jungle pushing over Yoh's chips after losing a pot.

3) really needed that nappy nap

jungle is more accomplished but him spazzing out on yoh for the same thing he did not realize at first is lol.

both are obviously greedy for coins which is also correct strategy.

kyna should have pushed for
a coin flip to determine order .

wtf Jungle.

Charlie was very generous.