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09-20-2013 , 08:30 AM
It appears they took their database down. Can anyone log in to their claim?

I get: Login Credentials are not matching. Invalid User
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09-20-2013 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BKiCe
not sure why i keep replying saying the same thing over and over again, but...

you say i lost the money "fairly". if i lost the money fairly, that implies i stood to win when i sat at the tables after 4/15. if i actually did stand to win when i sat post-BF then i definitely have no issue, i agree i lost it fair and square. the problem is that GCG has stated that they are paying people based on balances on 4/15, which clearly implies that i would not be eligible to receive any money i won after 4/15. if that is the case then any money that GCG keeps from my post-BF losses is money they completely freerolled from me. do you actually believe this is ok? do you actually believe that GCG is acting in good faith when they say they are going to pay based on 4/15 balances but want to pay me less than half of my 4/15 balance?

i have no clue why you or anyone else assumes that people are going to be paid money they won after 4/15 - their FAQ clearly states otherwise and there is zero basis for anyone to assume they will receive their post-BF winnings.
How many times do we need to tell you that accounts did not face some magical cut off from GCG on April 16th at midnight?
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09-20-2013 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 3bet_Junkie
Thanks for the suggestion, I think that is a good idea. I attached a notepad explaining all the things that I couldn't enter in the petition form and banking detail section, also adding my FTP account/bank details on April 15th, 2011. We will see how that works out...
Should have contacted GCG!
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09-20-2013 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LT22
How many times do we need to tell you that accounts did not face some magical cut off from GCG on April 16th at midnight?
http://fulltiltpokerclaims.com/faq.php#Q6

this is the second time i have posted the source of my information. i don't know who "we" is and i have no idea where you are getting your information, but i'll ask again, can you please provide a source or otherwise explain how you are so sure i'm wrong?
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09-20-2013 , 08:55 AM
Did you guys get a confirmation email after confirming your account balance?
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09-20-2013 , 08:57 AM
For everyone out there who no longer has access to their FTP email: Between writing them couple of emails and calling them about it, I got GCG to send me my petition and control numbers.

I wrote them an email on Monday with my old address, current address and screen name. Yesterday, I called them and spoke with someone who took my new and old email and physical addresses, and then told me to send them an email with my name, that same information, and a request to forward my numbers to my new address, which I sent. Then, last night I received a response to my first email with the numbers, and I successfully submitted my petition.

Good luck everyone!!
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09-20-2013 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BKiCe
http://fulltiltpokerclaims.com/faq.php#Q6

this is the second time i have posted the source of my information. i don't know who "we" is and i have no idea where you are getting your information, but i'll ask again, can you please provide a source or otherwise explain how you are so sure i'm wrong?
Everybody in this ****ing thread other than you and the one other guy trying to angle to get his losses from April 16th.
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09-20-2013 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BKiCe
http://fulltiltpokerclaims.com/faq.php#Q6

this is the second time i have posted the source of my information. i don't know who "we" is and i have no idea where you are getting your information, but i'll ask again, can you please provide a source or otherwise explain how you are so sure i'm wrong?
I've seen a couple posts in these NVG threads from players who said that their Full Tilt Account Balance on the GCG petition web site included money that they won after April 15, 2011. "Based on your balance as of 4/15/2011" is not the same as "Your balance as of 4/15/2011".

I think that statement in the GCG FAQ was to assuage concerns among players that the remissions might be based on deposits rather than account balances, not to specifically set the account balance on that date as the final settlement amount. It could have been worded better.
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09-20-2013 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LT22
Everybody in this ****ing thread other than you and the one other guy trying to angle to get his losses from April 16th.
oh right, because NVG said so. thanks for your time buddy.

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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
I've seen a couple posts in these NVG threads from players who said that their Full Tilt Account Balance on the GCG petition web site included money that they won after April 15, 2011.
i haven't seen anyone post that they won post-BF and been credited their winnings (and i've asked a few times in this thread), though i did see one poster say he won something like $500 post-BF that had NOT been credited to their balance. if you care to link me to anyone posting as you claim i would certainly appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
"Based on your balance as of 4/15/2011" is not the same as "Your balance as of 4/15/2011".
haha, really? i don't even know what you're going for here.

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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
I think that statement in the GCG FAQ was to assuage concerns among players that the remissions might be based on deposits rather than account balances, not to specifically set the account balance on that date as the final settlement amount. It could have been worded better.
again, i am baffled why people are making these assumptions on behalf of GCG and trying so hard to read through the lines. they made a pretty clear statement in their FAQ, one that i had no clue was open to much interpretation (and probably isn't outside of the wild world of NVG). if they wanted to assuage the concerns you stated it would have been completely trivial for them to do so clearly.
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09-20-2013 , 09:18 AM
Does anyone know if phantom deposits are likely to be deducted from remission? It would be pretty annoying if they weren't.
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09-20-2013 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ifyouwin1
if you dont live in usa you tell ftp that you moved and should be able to play
Yes, he will be able to play, but he wants his money.
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09-20-2013 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BKiCe
i haven't seen anyone post that they won post-BF and been credited their winnings .
I've seen a couple people post exactly this, in here or the other thread.

Edit: here; http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=5280
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09-20-2013 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Does anyone know if phantom deposits are likely to be deducted from remission? It would be pretty annoying if they weren't.
I have no idea, but I assume they won't be removed. It will be almost impossible for GCG to figure out what money was collected and what wasn't.
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09-20-2013 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Does anyone know if phantom deposits are likely to be deducted from remission? It would be pretty annoying if they weren't.
Given that limbo funds (withdrawals) are missing in a lot of cases, I'd say it's pretty unlikely.

I believe (as I always have) those people are likely to get off completely free.

Also I'm amazed (sarcasm alert) that FTP support personnel weren't using those long months to make sure all those limbo withdrawals were correctly credited back into people's accounts.
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09-20-2013 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BKiCe
i haven't seen anyone post that they won post-BF and been credited their winnings (and i've asked a few times in this thread), though i did see one poster say he won something like $500 post-BF that had NOT been credited to their balance. if you care to link me to anyone posting as you claim i would certainly appreciate it.
Well, I'm not about to go back through the multitude of posts to find it. I'll let you know if I came across one. I'm pretty sure it was in the other thread. Have you looked or posted there?

Also, have you noticed the many posts about Full Tilt Account Balances including other post-April 15th transactions, like withdrawals that were returned to their account or rakeback credited to their account? Or did you not read any of those either?

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again, i am baffled why people are making these assumptions on behalf of GCG and trying so hard to read through the lines. they made a pretty clear statement in their FAQ, one that i had no clue was open to much interpretation (and probably isn't outside of the wild world of NVG). if they wanted to assuage the concerns you stated it would have been completely trivial for them to do so clearly.
It's no more baffling than figuring out why you insist that it can be read only one way or mean only one thing.

The GCG is a big business doing government work. Such are always crystal clear in their intentions and statements.
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09-20-2013 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover
is there a limit to the number of documents you can upload? I logged in and it only has 3 lines, but I have like 20 pages I need to upload to show the shortage of "limbo" funds. I have to do them one at a time.
I plan to just print a bunch of bank statements and then scan them into one big pdf file. I have this capability at work but if you do not have access to such a machine, I am sure a print store like kinko's would have this capability.
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09-20-2013 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by djslumdog
Did you guys get a confirmation email after confirming your account balance?
I did.
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09-20-2013 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover
is there a limit to the number of documents you can upload? I logged in and it only has 3 lines, but I have like 20 pages I need to upload to show the shortage of "limbo" funds. I have to do them one at a time.
After you upload the first 3 documents it will give you the option of uploading 3 more then 3 more ect. I uploaded 8 in total went totally fine. I then called GCG about 10 mins after to see if I could confirm that they got the documents and they had not yet. Going to call back today obv. But it looks like you can send as much as you want.

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Originally Posted by BKiCe
http://fulltiltpokerclaims.com/faq.php#Q6

this is the second time i have posted the source of my information. i don't know who "we" is and i have no idea where you are getting your information, but i'll ask again, can you please provide a source or otherwise explain how you are so sure i'm wrong?
My balance on 4/15/2011 was a bit less than what it was on 4/17/2011 when I stopped playing, I was logged in and never signed out until they forced out that update. Plus I later got a rakeback payment. When I log into the GCG web site it reflects the balance I had after 4/17/2011 including the rakeback payment I clearly received after the 15th. As much as you want to argue that it's set in stone that the 15th was the cut off date it's crystal clear that myself and others itt have gotten what we are owed after the 15th.

What ever you lost or won is either credited or debited from your account. It really does look like you're trying to freeroll on money you legit lost that should have already been paid out to ROW players or is soon to be paid out to US players depending on who you lost it too. IMO there is no way it's going to get paid out twice.

Fwiw, I think some of the time when you apply for whatever you think you are owed you reverse freeroll your self and get 0 as the GCG will think you are trying to scam especially if you have no supporting documentation, which I can't imagine you do. But you can go for it if you want.
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09-20-2013 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
Ok guys I was about to dispute but I noticed a problem. I uploaded my documents then it brought me to the bank details page which I filled out, then it has a disclaimer that you must agree to. Article 4 states:

"4. My account with FTP reflects a balance owed by FTP to me as of April 15, 2011; and"

The only way you can proceed is to agree to that, but obviously nobody who disputes their balance agrees to that, nor will I sign something saying I do. So WTF am I supposed to do? Anyone know?
This
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09-20-2013 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nba_guru
I lost $1200 at 1am April 16. According to the 15th rule, I should have 1200 more in my balance. I haven't filed my remission yet because I'm not sure if I'm enititled to that 1200. Should I just the add the extra 1200 to my remission and then send my account file showing the extra 1200 in it on April 15. My total balance is showing the losses on the 16th.

Just wondering if it worth my trouble to try to get he extra 1200 or if I should just accept the number they gave me. Thanks
Since mostly everyone's balance reflects wins and losses up until FTP 'pulled the plug' on April 18th, I doubt the balance is a mistake on GCG's part. More than likely, they used the term 'April 15th' balance instead of what they should have used, 'end balance'.
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09-20-2013 , 10:34 AM
For the handful of people (at least) on this site asking about EIN and SSN. I THINK you need an ITIN number to get an EIN number. Am getting info on that now. You can not complete the online request for remission without an EIN number. I also do not know if you need to change a wrong physical address since nothing is being mailed unless it has to match the address the bank has on file? I called GCG but they didnt really seem to know.
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09-20-2013 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Haupt_234
Since mostly everyone's balance reflects wins and losses up until FTP 'pulled the plug' on April 18th, I doubt the balance is a mistake on GCG's part. More than likely, they used the term 'April 15th' balance instead of what they should have used, 'end balance'.
My balance reflects adjustments all the way into May.
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09-20-2013 , 10:52 AM
Is there anyone else ITT that was flagged as an affiliate but shouldn't be? I feel like I could be the only one.
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09-20-2013 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
My balance reflects adjustments all the way into May.
I worded that poorly but I was just talking about the actualy poker playing balance from going in and out of games. My balance also has adjustments post-April 18th for things other than table games.
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09-20-2013 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
Is there anyone else ITT that was flagged as an affiliate but shouldn't be? I feel like I could be the only one.
To add insult to injury I've actually heard from a few US affiliates that didn't have their accounts flagged
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