That's awesome. Hope all u guys get your dues, and quick!

Good stuff, thanks for posting

starting to get my dispute files ready, seems pretty simple but I feel like I'm missing something

I had one player signed up under me and I am trying to find what was affiliate payment and what was rakeback

My affiliate payments seem to all be filed under "Transaction" and labeled as "Affiliate to Player"

My Rakeback payments (at least post 2010 - I dont fully understand what was different before that like people say) are filed as "Promotional Payment" and
are labeled as "Player Rakeback Payment"

So basically all of my bonus/edge/rakeback etc seems to be filed under "Promotional Payment" and all of my affiliate payments are filed under "Transaction" and titled "Affiliate to Player Transfer"

So is my situation as simple as that or am I missing something?

Do you have "Affiliate to Player Transfer" transactions that are actually rakeback from your own play? (That's how rakeback was coded until sometime in 2010, apparently). It's up to you to figure this out, and to prove it to the DOJ.

See the link a few posts up that show WillOnTilt's recommended steps.

Just catching up reading, I was tagged as an affiliate and ~31k short which was all affiliate to player transfers. Thanks a lot to Wilt and the PPA for all there help, seems like should be pretty easy to explain in an appeal.

And just to confirm, if your account balance is listed as X, and your disputed claim is rejected, you still get the amount X they said as a minimum amount correct?

I just checked the bank account this morning, and did not receive my remission

I just reread the GCG announcement where they said they will be paying undisputed claims in Feb. It was dated 1/24, a Friday LDO, and it said:

GCG expects to issue payments via ACH before the end of February 2014 and will post further updates on the payment process in 2-3 weeks.

So this Friday is 2 weeks. Most likely we will hear something

I predicted 1st or 2nd week of February, so I'm sticking with it. By the end of next week, my hope is that at least some of us have received an email with either instructions on how to get our money OR just a heads up that the money will be arriving shortly. After that, I hope at least some people will start getting their funds before March 1st. Because the original petition emails went out in batches, versus all out at once, I think everything else will, too, so I suspect some people may see delays with the email and/or funds - delays in the order of days or a week or two.

Either way, the idea of having my money and this being over definitely brings a smile to my face.

For anyone that filed already and now wants to dispute their balance. I sent an email with my supporting documentation and they replied the same day to inform me that my petition was updated. Surprising...I know.

GCG please:

It's going to be an amazing day when that money hits our account. It is coming!!!!

Just got off the phone with a lady at the GCG, she said I involved in the first batch of payouts (undisputed balance) and to expect payment the last week of February...we'll see.

that makes sense cause presidents day is the 17th

Not trolling or complaining I'm genuinely curious what exactly is it that they're even doing with undisputed accounts now? Why is it going to take several more weeks?

good to hear.

If any1 else decides to call Id be interested to know what the payment process will look like.

are they just going to ship or do we need to be looking for other instructions.


would be nice if the PPA had this info. seems like individual players are getting as much or more info than they have given us

^^Look for info is what she said. I'm guessing Monday 2/24/14 is when the payments begin.

I emailed them just for the sake of reassurance as i havent heard anything since my confirmation /acceptance of my undisputed claim back in sept. I was informed my account was in good standing and to expect the payment within 2-3 weeks.

They're making arrangements with the DOJ-approved bank, according to their announcement.

Since they are paying $30M (or whatever) to 30,000 (or whatever) different people, I honestly can't blame them for taking a few weeks to make sure everything's set up correctly. Better that then all kinds of F-ups when it's time to send out the money.

ya I guess I just dont like that answer and expect the PPA to have a better one.

with as much money on the line as we have I think little questions like this should be answered by now.

I was one of those that didn't get the very first email. So, I filed a petition and sent my ftp account excel file. Then months ago when the affiliate thing first surfaced, I emailed asking whether I might have been tagged an affiliate by mistake. They never answered my question then but sent me new numbers. So, I filed again including my ftp excel file.

I never got told whether or not I was tagged as an affiliate but I had rakeback through RakeBackPros and for awhile the rakeback was noted as a "affiliate to player transfer". I never got the affiliate email a couple of weeks ago but I was worried that I might have been tagged an affiliate without knowing it. So, I emailed this morning. At first, I got a answer telling what I needed to do to dispute the affiliate tag instead of the answer to the question I asked. I emailed again saying I knew all of that, what I wanted to know was, was I tagged as an affiliate or not. Later this morning I got email saying definitively that I was not tagged by FTP as an affiliate. So, hopefully, I'll be in the undisputed payout group. But, you can be damn sure that I'm keeping that email handy. :-)

Doc

who exactly did you email? Sounds awesome

Glad to see the PPA and DOJ are still working together to help sort this out.

While this money is my money, I honestly wrote it off the day it was frozen and never expected to get it back (obv. I hoped I would).

Will def be making a contribution to the PPA once I receive my funds.

What the hell they have to do? Fuel up the trunks load them up with the money?

You have all these cute digs at the ppa. You a member feeling like your dues aren't well spent or are you just looking for someone to complain about? People aren't living up to your expectations. And? I'm frankly amazed that the PPA and DOJ were able to resolve the affiliate rb stuff so fast. WoT rocked, as well. End of February is a month sooner than we were promised in the last update. I'm thinking ahead of expectations. Not good enough? I guess randomly blame people who are actually helping.

What are backers doing about money owed to them by horses?