i just remember mrgatorade from a long time ago accusing a 2p2er of being a bot and now he's done it again. does anyone here find him credible?

uhm you must have a pretty weird playstyle if people confuse you with bots all the time? do you emulate the bots play or what

Gravy76 is online sitting right now

Anyone else think rsigley is a bot?


His explanation about recording every single hand he ever plays makes me suspicious.

Bot witch hunts = cold war communist accusations

rsigley the fact that you are a bot explains it all now. No HUMAN could be able to cap sports as well as you do. Damn, what type of bot are you if you don't mind me asking? Are you from the future, or are you Japanese?

The list I have provided is simply a means for FTP to investigate the accounts. I have zero power to actually close and seize funds. I do believe my list is accurate and would like to know which "bot" rsigley is so I can further scrutinize the evidence on that particular account. I have already been through a series of tests and have analyzed the evidence to a point where I am confident a human could not play or exhibit the types of behavior/actions/algorithms that these accounts show.

-Crazy Mike

It sounds a whole lot like a contingency plan. Sort of like, "oh **** I got caught, here look I'm not a bot these videos prove it!"

I don't see any honest player EVER doing such a thing.

Did you not understand that he was accused of this before. Not hard to do if you play higher limits and you want 100% proof you are truly playing. Rsigley are you videotaping at an angle that clearly shows you are in control of the computer? If so then this makes perfect damn sense.

He said screen capture which proves nothing. All it'll show is mouse movement.
He also stated that he was accused back in 2003, nobody in 2003 even knew what a bot was.

where can I find the software that test for bot

The "D" button doesn't seem to be working, can you please repost I want to make sure I am not a dumbass.

Thanks.

LOOL

Did that 2+2er you accused falsely "as a joke" pass those tests of yours?

And the bots will never get better and the poker sites will always protect you from them.

LOL...

-Crazy Mike

i think it's wholly irresponsble of mike to post a ton of names with no explanation of his methods at all. i wouldn't be shocked if some of the names no there were bots, but there's no way they're all bots. keep in mind mrgatorade has a history of accusing people of bots any time they beat him (i was sweating dean in a session in which mike wouldn't shut up about adding dean's account to his list of bots). he's a bit crazy, carries grudges, and has provided no evidence whatsoever. let's all hold off on judgments until there's actual discussion and not take everything mike says for granted, because he is, after all, kind of a lunatic (as anybody who has met him irl will attest).
/drunken anti-hysteria plea

First off I am crazy. My name is "Crazy Mike". To the point of how you believe I need to discuss/reveal/explain the methodology on how I prove a bot is a bot is something that I do not believe should be discussed in the open on a public forum. I find that comment simply silly and ill informed on your part. I do not like dean for many reasons and I do hold a grudge so you are correct in that. I am trying to be civil and so forth with him and I also believe he is doing the same towards me. Please review this post http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=211164 as it will help you understand that i am not simply the only one that believes these are bots. Some well respected people in the limit community understand that bots are simply put the most destructive force that online poker is going to have to contend with in the near future. I am not a drunk as I do not drink as many will contest to but I am crazy and that fact alone should be more then enough to understand that I am simply trying to inform FTP that they have a serious issue because unfortunately they cannot take action on there own to rid these without user intervention from us. That is a real shame on FTP part but in time I hope they will correct that. I have a true passion for this as I hate bots and cheating and this will ruin a game I love in time unless a more proactive approach is taken towards bots.

-Crazy Mike

Mike I do believe there are bots online and of course HU limit would be a great place to run them. The problem is if you are going public with these lists prior to any investigation you are going to damage the livelihood of the false positives.

I seriously doubt your methods can be 100% accurate, you probably can't access enough data on each player to get anywhere near this close so it's a good bet that releasing this information is just irresponsible. Of course if all the players on your list turn out to be bots we owe you an apology, but it strikes me that if you were certain as you claim you wouldn't need to compare notes with fellow players on this issue.

Do your methods spot all kinds of bots, NL ones included? If so I'd be interested in a PM to give me some pointers on your methodology so I can be more vigilant in my own games.

Last time the bots were busted. I got the 10-20% back. I was initially excited that Fulltilt had stopped bots and done refund. then realizing the small percentage you get back I was quite upset.

1. Fulltilt seems to have no ability to catch the bots themselves. Were it not for crazy mike they would never be stopped.
2. the idea of "oh people were cheating, we had no ability to stop it, here is 10% back" is absurd. I want to know that if I get cheated I get 100% back. Fulltilt should eat the cost as it is there problem that cheating is going on. How can I feel comfortable playing and knowing I might get cheated and if I do I will get an amazing 10% refund.
3. If fulltilt does not offer full explanation of plans to stop this and refund 100% I will not play on their site again.

I hope they decide to fully reimburse players, and figure out a way to stop it. The bots will only improve to point where outside users like mike will be unable to stop them.

Has Fulltilt suspended all accounts listed or are they all just cashing out? Every one of them is gone.

rsigley isn't a bot

myspacetom is a huge idiot

I <3 Alobar

keep looking into this mike there's def. bots at FTP

/thread

Cross Post from a thread I started:

I got to the heads up match up of a 4 man sng on stars where before the action began it made me match the security word in italics (i'm sure there's a name for this but it's escaping me) to begin play. Said something to the effect of "to prevent automated play, please type in security password".

Anyone else ever seen this?? I've never seen it before but it's definitely a good feature.

So at least Stars seems to being doing something about this..

i dont get how these guys 24 table without some kind of bot, even its just one that auto folds garbage.