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01-23-2012 , 05:12 PM

#16201

coolnout

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12,430

is that david grey?

01-23-2012 , 05:44 PM

#16202

Eldorian

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,274

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hash1982

Anyone from London here?

The APT London ICE Poker Championship starts tomorrow at the FOX Poker Club. ISPT has a booth there and Tapie will be there. If anyone can make it down and see if they can ask Tapie any questions that would be great.

im from london, link?

01-23-2012 , 05:45 PM

#16203

markksman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 20,909

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th an 1

It's just so wack, I can't really go out and have fun and am handcuffed by the frozen money, I'm 22 and don't have any real income or savings, I kept alot of my money in there. Now all i can do is sit and wait, I couldn't go to wsop with my friends last year, I can't go play poker live at casinos now because all the money I have currently I need for bills and such. I can't move to Mexico with a few of my friends who are playing down there online. Such a messed up situation. Hope it gets resolved asap. Thankfully though, Ivey and other owners are just living their lives as normal, as if FTP didn't completely, or nearly completely support his lifestyle over the years, I really have alot of disdain for him especially. He was the main reason I played on FTP, cuz I looked up to him, and now this. And he can't even be bothered to make a statement in like last 6 months. It's just so ridiculous.

/rant

Getting a job never crossed your mind?

01-23-2012 , 05:50 PM

#16204

insidemanpoker

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,590

is there a specific thread where people are buying and selling ftp money?

01-23-2012 , 05:50 PM

#16205

bigNDpants

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

Getting a job never crossed your mind?

It has, but no one is hiring around here unfortunately.

I am in the same boat as him.

01-23-2012 , 05:52 PM

#16206

Takemusu Aiki

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,722

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit

Many folks with lost FTP bankrolls have simply considered the money as gone, like a bad investment or having it stolen, and moved on or started to rebuild! Seems like a good way to deal with it since there is so little that an individual can do about it. The silver lining is that there is actully a very good chance for partial or total recovery sometime in the not too distant future! The only thing stiffed players can really do is wait for the train to arrive, and it likely will eventully. Waiting is not easy when you need the money yesterday I know!

Pretty much this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidNB

Was it in euro dollars before or US dollars?

Sick level.

01-23-2012 , 05:54 PM

#16207

SGT RJ

Twitching

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 48,792

Quote:

Originally Posted by insidemanpoker

is there a specific thread where people are buying and selling ftp money?

No, buying and selling FTP accounts is officially forbidden on 2p2.

Someone posting information about the current market rates we let slide, since it does give people a general idea of what people think about the value of FTP, but soliciting and/or offering to buy/sell funds is not allowed in any forum on 2p2.

01-23-2012 , 06:02 PM

#16208

insidemanpoker

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,590

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGT RJ

Got it. Can I ask why this is so specifically prohibited when other marketplace actions are allowed? Is there a special reason or is it just that deals gone wrong are going to be too prevalent and 2+2 doesn't want to have anything to do with such high risk deals?

01-23-2012 , 06:08 PM

#16209

SGT RJ

Twitching

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 48,792

Quote:

Originally Posted by insidemanpoker

The decision was made before I was modded, but IIRC it's because of the risk of multiple deals going wrong and multiple posters getting screwed/scammed, and 2p2 wants nothing to do with it.

Obviously this is a unique situation, since no other site are people selling funds for the promise of delivery at some unspecified and possibly never to come date when every one gets their money back (or some of it back) from FTP.

Just a risk issue AFAIK.

01-23-2012 , 06:44 PM

#16210

DA TRUF!

adept

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 882

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGT RJ

RJ, are you sure this is correct? There are multiple posts looking to either sell or buy FTP $ in the HSNL Transfer Thread within the past couple weeks, including at least one confirmation of a sale between Dave4112 and PartyGirlUK.

01-23-2012 , 06:46 PM

#16211

DMoogle

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,268

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA TRUF!

Yeah, and there's nothing in the OP about it.

Moreso, the gigantic general P2P trading thread in the Zoo doesn't have any rules posted against it, either.

01-23-2012 , 07:05 PM

#16212

4th an 1

grinder

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 420

Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

Getting a job never crossed your mind?

What an absurd comment. So if someone kills your wife your response is "can't you get a new wife?" I have enough money to live on, and my financial decisions aren't your ignorant ****ing business. Get ****ed.

01-23-2012 , 07:08 PM

#16213

4th an 1

grinder

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 420

As if the point is, I am unable to make back a large sum of money. The point is I shouldn't have to think up a ****ing plan to make back the money a bunch of crooks stole from me. You are truly a douchebag.

01-23-2012 , 07:16 PM

#16214

SGT RJ

Twitching

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 48,792

Quote:

Originally Posted by DA TRUF!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMoogle

Yeah, and there's nothing in the OP about it.

Moreso, the gigantic general P2P trading thread in the Zoo doesn't have any rules posted against it, either.

I'm sure that's what I was told. I don't enforce rules outside of the forums I moderate (other than really obvious stuff like horse pron) and certainly don't go looking for it.

If other moderators either forget or don't notice (mods don't read every thread in their forums, generally speaking) or look the other way occasionally in their own forums, IDK.

Myself and the other mods most active in this thread and in NVG in general don't allow it in here, and I was told that was a site wide decision.

01-23-2012 , 07:24 PM

#16215

NeedsToBeSaid

adept

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 997

Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

Getting a job never crossed your mind?

Not being an awful human being ever cross your mind?

01-23-2012 , 07:26 PM

#16216

Mycology

banned

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 310

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th an 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th an 1

01-23-2012 , 08:22 PM

#16217

bizzle03

adept

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,000

Lederer, Furst, Bitar, Ferguson's answers to the amended complaints were due today. Hopefully something is posted on the dockets tomorrow or relatively soon. (Probably another extension)

01-23-2012 , 08:53 PM

#16218

Diamond_Flush

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,470

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizzle03

Lederer, Furst, Bitar, Ferguson's answers to the amended complaints were due today. Hopefully something is posted on the dockets tomorrow or relatively soon. (Probably another extension)

Deadline was rescheduled until March 19. This is entirely to be expected if even one of the parties is in settlement talks.

01-23-2012 , 09:32 PM

#16219

gameoverjc

veteran

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,761

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush

Deadline was rescheduled until March 19. This is entirely to be expected if even one of the parties is in settlement talks.

Wait, we have to wait until March 19th for FTP to work stuff out with DOJ?

And after that wait even longer for DOJ to clear payments?

01-23-2012 , 10:00 PM

#16220

bizzle03

adept

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,000

Quote:

Originally Posted by gameoverjc

Wait, we have to wait until March 19th for FTP to work stuff out with DOJ?

And after that wait even longer for DOJ to clear payments?

Could be shorter, could be longer. Judges have to set deadlines, but Judges can alter those deadlines (for more time) or the parties can settle prior to the deadline.

01-23-2012 , 10:07 PM

#16221

NoahSD

Is Right

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 18,843

Quote:

Originally Posted by gameoverjc

Wait, we have to wait until March 19th for FTP to work stuff out with DOJ?

And after that wait even longer for DOJ to clear payments?

Nah. Those deadlines are insignificant.

01-23-2012 , 11:06 PM

#16222

jhn_lundgren

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 320

Quote:

Originally Posted by SneakySteve

@RealCrazyMike Mike Thorpe
This guy is $200,900,000 away from paying us all back... Loves to show his support for this company... pic.twitter.com/5ANPtoSJ

One of FT's original shareholders. He's still laughing.

Made millions from FT.

01-23-2012 , 11:07 PM

#16223

SuperJez

banned

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,087

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhn_lundgren

Made millions from player money.

FYP

01-24-2012 , 12:31 AM

#16224

oneonth3run

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,648

Was about to say the same. If it's just some random wealthy dude who doesn't know any better then whatever, but judging from the tweet it must be him. Are some really that oblivious to the fallout from all of this that were affiliated with the company?

Although, solid way to pre-tilt people at the table, I'll give him that.

01-24-2012 , 12:42 AM

#16225

floptuf

banned

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 339

I don't know what's with Ivey if he is on our side or not, I seen vids on YouTube where he lost like two mill throwing dice within minutes like it was nothing, of course that was before BF.

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