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09-02-2021 , 12:00 PM

#26

SrslySirius

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4,364

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Originally Posted by nvragain

sure, everyone is so smart and reasonable in retrospect

If you have access to the internet and play poker, you've probably seen other stories about people getting rugged on these apps and ignored warnings from people about playing on them with randoms. That is foresight.

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09-02-2021 , 12:18 PM

#27

prideitoff

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 446

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Originally Posted by sixfour

Full Tilt, Absolute, Cake etc had consistent payouts. Until they didn't.

yes, because anyone with half a brain saw they were gonna stop cashouts also

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Originally Posted by MastaAces

was $20/$40 the highest stakes offered? what was max buy-in? $1.5mm is 375 $4k buy-ins.

8k max

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09-02-2021 , 12:54 PM

#28

nvragain

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Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 20

we played PLO at 25\50$ with 100$ straddle pretty often. the max BI was 10k, I guess

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09-02-2021 , 12:58 PM

#29

nvragain

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Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 20

meanwhile, Andy showed up, posting a 32min video about his view of the case, saying that he's not the only one responsible for that crash ( but mostly it's him). He claimed that he hasn't run away, but plans to get the things right. nothing particular though

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09-02-2021 , 02:36 PM

#30

MastaAces

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 10,250

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Originally Posted by nvragain

what? link?!

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09-02-2021 , 03:46 PM

#31

Pls try to bluf

adept

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 700

Not sure what legally can be done but all they would have to do is follow the money

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09-03-2021 , 12:24 AM

#32

Your Mom

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Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,503

People like this should be in jail or a deep hole.

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09-03-2021 , 01:21 PM

#33

BeerDrunker

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 215

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Originally Posted by nvragain

Where is this?

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09-03-2021 , 09:35 PM

#34

King Fish

A Big Deal Around Here

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15,117

It’s laughably bad. He blames, among other things, the guys he hired for not catching him sooner.

Last edited by Andrii Plakhotnyi; 09-07-2021 at 12:30 AM.

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09-03-2021 , 11:22 PM

#35

PokerPlayingGamble

banned

Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 4,669

also he would like the death threats to stop.

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09-04-2021 , 12:23 AM

#36

Punker

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Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,524

Apology statements:

1. Lederer files
2. Dutch Boyd Pokerspot
3. This dude
4. Scott Tom Absolute
5. Jen Larson Lock poker
6. Russ Hamilton UltimateBet

Sorry for everyone who got scammed. Hope you get your money back.

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09-04-2021 , 12:34 AM

#37

PokerPlayingGamble

banned

Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 4,669

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Originally Posted by Pls try to bluf

Not sure what legally can be done but all they would have to do is follow the money

According to Andy he didn't cash anything out, just degened away all the fake deposits at 25/50 or w/e. If that is the case then I think he is probably in the clear as far as criminal charges go. He's basically just welching on gambling debts. It's even questionable that they would have a civil case, were he not judgment proof as he claims.

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09-04-2021 , 12:46 AM

#38

Outoftime44444

adept

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 801

And that is who you guys trusted your money to. wow.

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09-04-2021 , 01:59 PM

#39

lealeks

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 4

I participated in a big game on this site, played a lot for 3 weeks, won about $ 180k. Nickname Voidwar. Since May, I have not received cashouts, and before that there were constant delays with payments and they paid ten times less than they should have. There were attempts to accuse us of unfair play in order not to pay the money, but in the end they said that everything was fair.

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09-06-2021 , 12:11 PM

#40

mcc3504

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,907

So what i got from the video was he degen'd off aton of money, then blames the other workers for not catching him doing this thru accounting n saying this happened b/c he was doing a lot of the work running the site. It never cases to amaze me how delusional these scammers are and how they justify it not being their fault etc.

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09-06-2021 , 12:15 PM

#41

Same_again

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 1,755

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Originally Posted by mcc3504

Yeah that's what I took from it as well. He was saying others could have realised it and not just me as if it was some external thing that nobody could control or see coming. When actually it was completely him losing the money and it's just that the others didn't catch him!

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09-06-2021 , 02:57 PM

#42

FUrake

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,661

anywhere else I can see this video?

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09-06-2021 , 04:04 PM

#43

Outoftime44444

adept

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 801

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Originally Posted by FUrake

anywhere else I can see this video?

Video is available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn0Z7IoPoY8

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09-06-2021 , 08:47 PM

#44

Punker

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Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,524

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Originally Posted by mcc3504

My favorite part is any time he talks about someone else scamming him or stealing money, the utter disgust and contempt in his voice, all the while seemingly forgetting he's stolen so much more.

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09-07-2021 , 06:26 AM

#45

MastaAces

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 10,250

can someone please post some juicy timestamps? i tried to watch the video but dude was so boring and pathetic i didn't last more than 6 minutes. what you guys are discussing sounds a bit more entertaining though! thanks.

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09-07-2021 , 06:28 AM

#46

Same_again

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 1,755

I notice that almost all the comments on the YouTube video have been removed!

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09-07-2021 , 06:46 AM

#47

RecreationalPlayer

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 389

If you play on a site like this, you have to accept a certain level of risk. If you have put too much of your BR on there, that's on you.

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09-07-2021 , 07:04 AM

#48

Same_again

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 1,755

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Originally Posted by RecreationalPlayer

If you play on a site like this, you have to accept a certain level of risk. If you have put too much of your BR on there, that's on you.

This is definitely correct. You should never deposit more than you are prepared to write off should the worst happen

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09-07-2021 , 07:27 AM

#49

MastaAces

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 10,250

THREAD CLIFFS
rules of a professional gambler:
1. only deal with people you know and trust 100%.
2. never in life put your money at risk and never take any chances.

anything else?

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09-07-2021 , 07:40 AM

#50

King Fish

A Big Deal Around Here

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15,117

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Originally Posted by MastaAces

I remember sometime starting around 11:00 and ending around the 20-minute mark, he pretty much throws everyone and anything under the bus to try and deflect blame. In addition to the other crap mentioned, he even blames some guy who was gonna bail them out for not bailing them out.

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