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12-16-2020 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
You won me over. Tentatively. VPN is a little sketch. I feel played here if this was a troll. This would be super high quality work. I totally bought it.
Lol you too.


It wasn't high quality. Just pure garbage.
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12-16-2020 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Just bad reads. Detailed info? You think it would be hard to make up, oh dude came home and broke the bathroom door. Now he's being sued by Aria.


Why the **** would Patches care to go out of his way to clear up **** on here with a bunch of randoms?


I really wish there was a way to bet on this outcome.

I’ll take legit. Not for a super high amount of money though. I’ll do it for a $50 spot.
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12-16-2020 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Good idea if you want to get sued. If I was the player that got attacked and was on the fence about suing MGM or was just looking to put the incident behind me, being banned by the casino that attacked me would be the exact motivation I need to 100% sue those corporate *******s.
But if the player legit verbally abused the dealer, that’s grounds for banning him. You can’t allow people to treat your staff however they want without consequences. If you do, you’ll end up with the Commerce type atmosphere everywhere. You can’t just kiss the guy’s ass because you’re scared he might sue.

Last edited by Dr. Meh; 12-16-2020 at 09:52 PM. Reason: Typo
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12-16-2020 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
I’ll take legit. Not for a super high amount of money though. I’ll do it for a $50 spot.
Booked.

This may need arbitration, in which case I'm not sure how we'll proceed. For example if he's never heard from again.
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12-16-2020 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Booked.

This may need arbitration, in which case I'm not sure how we'll proceed. For example if he's never heard from again.

Confirmed.

Please any of Patches good friends help me. One of them must know of a Leo.

I lose any and all non-poker bets imaginable. I lost on the PGA not coming back until Fall. I lost on the World Series being played back in May. I lost on Trump.

One time. That guy wasn’t smart enough to be a good troll. Why push the gofundme?
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12-16-2020 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Confirmed.

Please any of Patches good friends help me. One of them must know of a Leo.

I lose any and all non-poker bets imaginable. I lost on the PGA not coming back until Fall. I lost on the World Series being played back in May. I lost on Trump.

One time. That guy wasn’t smart enough to be a good troll. Why push the gofundme?
He wasn't a good troll.
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12-16-2020 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Good idea if you want to get sued. If I was the player that got attacked and was on the fence about suing MGM or was just looking to put the incident behind me, being banned by the casino that attacked me would be the exact motivation I need to 100% sue those corporate *******s.
A skinny player who is hotheaded enough to ignite a normally placid dealer 3x his size will continue to cause liability problems for the casino. Not banning him would be insane.
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12-16-2020 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Confirmed.

Please any of Patches good friends help me. One of them must know of a Leo.

I lose any and all non-poker bets imaginable. I lost on the PGA not coming back until Fall. I lost on the World Series being played back in May. I lost on Trump.

One time. That guy wasn’t smart enough to be a good troll. Why push the gofundme?
Well it doesn’t say who’s behind the gofundme, do we know that patches is even aware of it?

Sounds like patches is a good guy who had a lapse in judgement, I agree he could use the money as most ppl could during covid losing jobs

I’m just saying I don’t think it’s posted on gofundme who set it up, I’m not sure how it works and if they check the money goes to the correct person.

I read through all Leo’s posts in one sitting and they came across quite odd

First claiming Patches his bf committed crimes out of frustration, then he moved away and left him bc he’s mad but he was still trying to solicit money on his behalf? Now needs 100k when the original gofundme was for 2.5k and then using VPN.

That’s just some stuff. Seems quite odd if turns out legit.

Last edited by golfbum983; 12-16-2020 at 10:25 PM.
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12-16-2020 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
Well it doesn’t say who’s behind the gofundme, do we know that patches is even aware of it?

There’s $26k legit in there. He is facing no job and serious legal consequences — criminal and legal. He needs that money. He ain’t dealing for a long time.

I can see this going either way. I would bet my life on it. Someone (I think) would have said there is no Leo by now. Going on hunch only. VPN is sketch though. As well as writing a lot of negative stuff about him.

Hmmm.

Can I buy out for $5? Not feeling as confident anymore as I type.
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12-16-2020 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt

One time. That guy wasn’t smart enough to be a good troll. Why push the gofundme?
Leo was sabotaging the gofundme, saying they needed $100K for legal bills, which is not at all what the gofundme was saying. There is no indication other than from Leo that Patches is involved in any civil or criminal litigation.
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12-16-2020 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
Leo was sabotaging the gofundme, saying they needed $100K for legal bills, which is not at all what the gofundme was saying. There is no indication other than from Leo that Patches is involved in any civil or criminal litigation.

I believe he does need $100k. I do believe that he is facing a host of charges. The video isn’t very kind. I don’t think anybody is going to forget about it, especially the player. He is licking his chops no doubt. Aria is forced to take some action I imagine.

Plus, his ability to get a dealing job are going to be very challenging.

Leo knows his stuff.
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12-16-2020 , 10:29 PM
I haven't seen anything about criminal charges or a lawsuit except from Leo. Wouldn't there by documentation by now if Patches was arrested?
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12-16-2020 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
There’s $26k legit in there. He is facing no job and serious legal consequences — criminal and legal. He needs that money. He ain’t dealing for a long time.

I can see this going either way. I would bet my life on it. Someone (I think) would have said there is no Leo by now. Going on hunch only. VPN is sketch though. As well as writing a lot of negative stuff about him.

Hmmm.

Can I buy out for $5? Not feeling as confident anymore as I type.
Did you mean to say "wouldn't" bet your life on it?


No buy out! I'm gonna cash your 50 out and RUB IT ON MY TITTIES! Fight Between Dealer and Player at Aria
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12-17-2020 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Did you mean to say "wouldn't" bet your life on it?


No buy out! I'm gonna cash your 50 out and RUB IT ON MY TITTIES! Fight Between Dealer and Player at Aria

Yes, wouldn’t bet my life.

Yes, willing to buy out.

I still need real evidence that this was a troll. Patches posting would suffice (as long as it is authenticated as Patches).
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12-17-2020 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ronl2k
A skinny player who is hotheaded enough to ignite a normally placid dealer 3x his size will continue to cause liability problems for the casino. Not banning him would be insane.
LoL @ insane. The poker community is full of these type of *******s and they never get banned.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
But if the player legit verbally abused the dealer, that’s grounds for banning him. You can’t allow people to treat your staff however they want without consequences. If you do, you’ll end up with the Commerce type atmosphere everywhere. You can’t just kiss the guy’s ass because you’re scared he might sue.
Very valid points, but I do think the ass kissing is in order and I believe Aria employs many professional ass kissers that would be well adept at showing this player a good time so that he can put this one negative incident behind him.

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Originally Posted by Shark1980
New York man wins $160.5M in lawsuit against Vegas casino
April 29, 2017

In the year before he suffered a traumatic brain injury in April 2012, according to trial transcripts, David Moradi managed a $1 billion hedge fund and earned $11 million.

Moradi says his hedge fund had to be shut down and he has not found work in the field since. The lawyers for both sides declined to comment on the verdict.


From: https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...-160m-verdict/
I wonder if he filed for unemployment to help him get by.
Wow, the rich get richer. If he worked the drive-thru at McDonald's he'd probably have received a happy meal as a settlement.

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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
Not only is Patches reputation harmed by the unruly video taking,
Patches reputation was harmed because he acted like a jackass in public. (in truth, I don't think his reputation has taken much of a hit).

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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Lol. Wrong.
Wrong in which direction? Are you saying Vegas dealers make more or less than Bellagio 5/T pros?
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12-17-2020 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Yes, wouldn’t bet my life.

Yes, willing to buy out.

I still need real evidence that this was a troll. Patches posting would suffice (as long as it is authenticated as Patches).

Bet expires at the end of the 2020. One of us has to show proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I am not waiting years for a wager to settle.

Leo, if you’re reading, turn off the VPN, post something convincing and I will give half of my winnings to the gofundme.
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12-17-2020 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
LoL @ insane. The poker community is full of these type of *******s and they never get banned.



Very valid points, but I do think the ass kissing is in order and I believe Aria employs many professional ass kissers that would be well adept at showing this player a good time so that he can put this one negative incident behind him.



Wow, the rich get richer. If he worked the drive-thru at McDonald's he'd probably have received a happy meal as a settlement.



Patches reputation was harmed because he acted like a jackass in public. (in truth, I don't think his reputation has taken much of a hit).



Wrong in which direction? Are you saying Vegas dealers make more or less than Bellagio 5/T pros?
I don't know what the 5/10 winrate is, but assuming 40 hour weeks, they'll easily clear 50k. $25/hr is 52k. That aint much. Average $1 toke per hand (seems fair) and you're around $35+ with wages.

I knew a dealer who broke 100k dealing exclusively 3/6 LHE. This was 2005, but still.
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12-17-2020 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by golfnutt
Bet expires at the end of the 2020. One of us has to show proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I am not waiting years for a wager to settle.

Leo, if you’re reading, turn off the VPN, post something convincing and I will give half of my winnings to the gofundme.
I suggest an arbiter if clear and convincing proof is not obvious.
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12-17-2020 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
I suggest an arbiter if clear and convincing proof is not obvious.

You need to tell me who it is. Which begs the question of why someone would go through all this effort. And relentlessly promote a legit gofundme if they were not the beneficiary. It’s possible, but weird. But then again this is 2+2.
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12-17-2020 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
I don't know what the 5/10 winrate is, but assuming 40 hour weeks, they'll easily clear 50k. $25/hr is 52k. That aint much. Average $1 toke per hand (seems fair) and you're around $35+ with wages.
$14/hr confirmed. (Source)

Assuming 40 hour weeks, that's 29k a year, but let's just be completely candid and admit that most pros are lazy and will put in the more minimum, so maybe $22k is realistic.

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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
I knew a dealer who broke 100k dealing exclusively 3/6 LHE. This was 2005, but still.
Sure, in 2005. Most everyone was a tipping fish back then. Don't think it's relevant whatsoever to tipping in Vegas in recent years.
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12-17-2020 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by zf96733n

I love how the floor tries to hold back Patches initially and when he realizes he’s not going to stop scoots away and is like, “nope”.

I’m sure if the floor just said the right thing like, “this jerk ain’t worth your job, let it go”, he might of ended the whole thing.
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12-17-2020 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by golfbum983
Well it doesn’t say who’s behind the gofundme, do we know that patches is even aware of it?

Sounds like patches is a good guy who had a lapse in judgement, I agree he could use the money as most ppl could during covid losing jobs

I’m just saying I don’t think it’s posted on gofundme who set it up, I’m not sure how it works and if they check the money goes to the correct person.
The gofundme is apparently set up by Keila Amos-Odinas. It's not clear what their relationship is to him.

I did a quick Facebook search and found 2 profiles. One was a lady in Vegas and the other was a blank profile.

The lady in Vegas has no mention of the Gofundme on her Facebook page and a quick scroll through her profile did not show any connection to Leandre Wharton.

I found Patches Facebook page and the picture of him used on the gofundme is his Facebook profile picture which anyone could get hold of. It doesn't look like he's very active on it but has no friends called "Leo" or "Keila" (I can only search his followers so it's plausible they may be in a friends list). It would appear that he has had relationships with men in the past so that much is true.

Could be lots of reasons for things but that's some information I quickly located.

Last edited by Masq; 12-17-2020 at 04:30 AM.
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12-17-2020 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
He wasn't a good troll.

This.

I thought it was pretty apparent from just a few of Uncle Leos first posts something was off. Guess poker isnt dead after all lol
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12-17-2020 , 04:36 AM
How ****ing long did it take security to finally show up?
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