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02-09-2012 , 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serio
Good god it looks like PokrParty is gonna play this Oddsen guy across literally 12-14 tables.

edit: make that 20

Pokr: I'm at 20 tables
Pokr: find me
The cocaine is strong in this one
02-09-2012 , 09:11 PM


02-09-2012 , 09:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaarg
whatever
Translation: "I was completely wrong and showed that I don't know what I'm talking about but don't want to admit it"

As for your other claims, yes, he might have very well gone broke or at least close to it at the end of October 2010, after which he wasn't seen on FTP (last played Oct 30th 2010) or theitalienstyle (last tracked Oct 20th 2010). With the $4m he lost between those two accounts it was probably most of what he had won as blom90, zebul_on and any of his other Euro accounts. When did anyone disagree with that?

You're making it out like he's not a world-class player, which he is. He only lost that much because he was playing the highest stakes possible against the best players in the world, (i.e. playing both PA and Ivey HU PLO at the same time or in the case of his TheItalienStyle account playing LarsLuzak at HU NLHE) over huge volume. His winrate was a pretty low negative number in terms of bb/100. A bad player would have lost that money WAY faster playing the people Isildur played.

And where do you think those millions came from? He won them because as long as he isn't playing the top 10 players in the world he has an edge.

You saying that he's a "crazy degenerate maniac" shows that you don't understand he's one of the best in the world

Last edited by loveminuszero; 02-09-2012 at 09:19 PM.
02-09-2012 , 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by loveminuszero
And where do you think those millions came from?
untracked euro sites ldo
02-09-2012 , 09:36 PM
Hand #1
Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Jeans89 (BB): $45478.50
Sauce123 (BTN/SB): $93117.00

Pre Flop: ($380.00)
Sauce123 raises to $600, Jeans89 calls $400

Flop: ($1280.00) 5 5 T (2 players)
Jeans89 checks, Sauce123 bets $700, Jeans89 raises to $2400, Sauce123 calls $1700

Turn: ($6080.00) 8 (2 players)
Jeans89 bets $5200, Sauce123 calls $5200

River: ($16480.00) 4 (2 players)
Jeans89 bets $15200, Sauce123 calls $15200

Final Pot: $46880.00
Jeans89 shows 6 7 8 8 (a full house, Eights full of Fives)
Jeans89 wins $46878.00
(Rake: $2.00)



Hand #2
Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

doncarignano (CO): $21080.00
V. Wahlbeck (BTN): $45500.00
1-ronnyr3 (SB): $31947.50
Sauce123 (BB): $63352.50
Jeans89 (UTG): $15965.00

Pre Flop: ($500.00)
Jeans89 raises to $800, doncarignano raises to $2900, 1 fold, 1-ronnyr3 raises to $9900, 2 folds, doncarignano raises to $21040 all in, 1-ronnyr3 calls $11140

Flop: ($43280.00) 4 K 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($43280.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($43280.00) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $43280.00
doncarignano shows 9 A A 3 (a pair of Aces)
1-ronnyr3 shows 4 A J K (two pair, Kings and Fours)
1-ronnyr3 wins $43275.00
(Rake: $5.00)
02-09-2012 , 09:38 PM
Action has died since Ziig left, and my comps throwing a wobbler. I'm done.



02-09-2012 , 09:39 PM
Thanks for all the hand histories poster's, but this thread in the last couple pages is a freaking train-wreck. Who really cares if Isildur1 wins or loses millions, it's not like he is going to give anyone in this thread money. Just sit back and enjoy the action while he is playing.
02-09-2012 , 09:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by loveminuszero
Translation: "I was completely wrong and showed that I don't know what I'm talking about but don't want to admit it"

As for your other claims, yes, he might have very well gone broke or at least close to it at the end of October 2010, after which he wasn't seen on FTP (last played Oct 30th 2010) or theitalienstyle (last tracked Oct 20th 2010). With the $4m he lost between those two accounts it was probably most of what he had won as blom90, zebul_on and any of his other Euro accounts. When did anyone disagree with that?

You're making it out like he's not a world-class player, which he is. He only lost that much because he was playing the highest stakes possible against the best players in the world, (i.e. playing both PA and Ivey HU PLO at the same time or in the case of his TheItalienStyle account playing LarsLuzak at HU NLHE) over huge volume. His winrate was a pretty low negative number in terms of bb/100. A bad player would have lost that money WAY faster playing the people Isildur played.

And where do you think those millions came from? He won them because as long as he isn't playing the top 10 players in the world he has an edge.

You saying that he's a "crazy degenerate maniac" shows that you don't understand he's one of the best in the world

i was completely wrong in what exactly?

i just said whatever because its irrelevant what you were quoting.

i stay by my opinion, that isildur is just a degen and like you see as the luck turned around he lost it all(he managed to loose about 9million!try realizing that) and was close to busto because he has no discipline,no brm and tils alot all that are charasteristics which a worldclass player shouldnt have.
02-09-2012 , 10:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaarg
i was completely wrong in what exactly?

i just said whatever because its irrelevant what you were quoting.

i stay by my opinion, that isildur is just a degen and like you see as the luck turned around he lost it all(he managed to loose about 9million!try realizing that) and was close to busto because he has no discipline,no brm and tils alot all that are charasteristics which a worldclass player shouldnt have.
he can be a degen cause he is so good!
netxt run to 1.5M within few days, will come,, the he will lose big again, but probly not as much as he won before, with that "strategy" he made a lot,,, we dont say he wouldnt win more if he was disciplined, but his ability to run hugh amounts up is pretty unique in the whole poker world
02-09-2012 , 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaarg
i was completely wrong in what exactly?

i just said whatever because its irrelevant what you were quoting.
Not "irrelevant", wrong. You said he is at a "career low" because you didn't know that PTR is super inaccurate $ wise for Isildur ( for most people it is not that far off winrates since it's an unbiased sample but with a guy as swingy as Isildur if it misses a few sessions that can make a huge difference with the volume and swings). Then when I told you HighstakesDB is more accurate, you said it wasn't because their highpoint for Isildur is 1.3 million when it should be 5 million, because you didn't know that they graph it by end-of-month results.

Both showed that you dont' know ****
02-09-2012 , 10:16 PM
p0krparty has biggest stacks at most tables wheneve i check, not that his is satting at those tables for hours, he logs off or changes tables sometimes sick sick sick
4K, 6K, 7K stacks at 3/6 all the time
02-09-2012 , 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mavs123
he can be a degen cause he is so good!
netxt run to 1.5M within few days, will come,, the he will lose big again, but probly not as much as he won before, with that "strategy" he made a lot,,, we dont say he wouldnt win more if he was disciplined, but his ability to run hugh amounts up is pretty unique in the whole poker world
02-09-2012 , 10:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by loveminuszero
Not "irrelevant", wrong. You said he is at a "career low" because you didn't know that PTR is super inaccurate $ wise for Isildur ( for most people it is not that far off winrates since it's an unbiased sample but with a guy as swingy as Isildur if it misses a few sessions that can make a huge difference with the volume and swings). Then when I told you HighstakesDB is more accurate, you said it wasn't because their highpoint for Isildur is 1.3 million when it should be 5 million, because you didn't know that they graph it by end-of-month results.

Both showed that you dont' know ****

who cares about his highest point?fact is the graph ends with -2,63million.

but its funny that you are so stubborn with that stupid hsdb graph and claim that i dont know chit based on the fact that i was wrong at his peak.

i know he ended with -2,63million thats all what counts,right?
02-09-2012 , 10:25 PM
also interesting you are not commenting on my last paragraph..cant handle the truth of your litte boy isildur,huh?
02-09-2012 , 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaarg
whatever he left ftp with -2,63 million.

do you disagree that he was near to busto at this moment?

if he would have more $$$ he would depoist more.

he showed hes a crazy degenerate maniac who played everyone whatever stakes no matter what and if he had more money he would continue.

his only choice was signing a deal with a major pokersite who pay him monthly so he can continue degening around.
Well, no he wasn't broke when he stopped playing on full tilt. He was still regularly playing from 25/50 to 300/600 on ipoker as no_09 and other names right up until he signed for stars and also played a lot of EPTs and the WSOPE as well. (check hendon mob, he finished 15th). He also played on stars as grolongo and ingsoni on party in 2010. No doubt it was a big hit to his bankroll but he never had to stop playing 25/50+.
02-09-2012 , 10:28 PM
lol are u stupid?
he ended down 4M down on FT+Ipoker,, lost maybe everything he made before in that period..

but then since his PS time he is a winner (1M cash PS, 1.1M high roller event, rakeback, salary) he should be up over 2M since 2011

unknow is if he played only his own money, or about losses in live cash games and so on..

but a fact is he won/made over 2M since 2011
02-09-2012 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ben wb
Well, no he wasn't broke when he stopped playing on full tilt. He was still regularly playing from 25/50 to 300/600 on ipoker as no_09 and other names right up until he signed for stars and also played a lot of EPTs and the WSOPE as well. (check hendon mob, he finished 15th). He also played on stars as grolongo and ingsoni on party in 2010. No doubt it was a big hit to his bankroll but he never had to stop playing 25/50+.
correct
02-09-2012 , 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mavs123
lol are u stupid?
he ended down 4M down on FT+Ipoker,, lost maybe everything he made before in that period..

but then since his PS time he is a winner (1M cash PS, 1.1M high roller event, rakeback, salary) he should be up over 2M since 2011

unknow is if he played only his own money, or about losses in live cash games and so on..

but a fact is he won/made over 2M since 2011

did i say anything else?


but he is still a degen and far from a worldclass player.

Last edited by Zaarg; 02-09-2012 at 10:37 PM.
02-09-2012 , 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaarg
also interesting you are not commenting on my last paragraph..cant handle the truth of your litte boy isildur,huh?
True or false?

You both referred to PTR saying that it was an indication of his recent results and didn't know how HighstakesDB graphs month by month?

Both true, and both show you don't know much

And yes I've commented on everything you've said, go back and read the thread

Just leave this all won't end well
02-09-2012 , 10:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaarg
yeah but he is still a degen and far from a worldclass player.
Thought I was done but then you come with this

He only lost money when he played guys like PA, Ivey, Galfond and Lars Luzak and all that money he lost to them he won from others

He is at _least_ top 20 in the world at both HU NLHE and HU PLO, probably top 10, and back when he was playing HU NLHE consistently he was definitely top 5 (but has probably slipped in that dept since he barely plays it any more)
02-09-2012 , 10:40 PM
Stop filling the thread with BS.
02-09-2012 , 10:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by loveminuszero
True or false?

You both referred to PTR saying that it was an indication of his recent results and didn't know how HighstakesDB graphs month by month?

Both true, and both show you don't know much

And yes I've commented on everything you've said, go back and read the thread

Just leave this all won't end well
you still dont comment on my last paragraph.

here it is for you again:

i stay by my opinion, that isildur is just a degen and like you see as the luck turned around he lost it all(he managed to loose about 9million!try realizing that) and was close to busto because he has no discipline,no brm and tils alot all that are charasteristics which a worldclass player shouldnt have.


now come again, that i cant read hsdb graphs and that i didnt knew tableratings is inaccurate thats your only argument but atleast you have one not bad for a nvg tard

tis paragraph is full of facts and shows you that isildur is a degen and far from a worldclass player.
02-09-2012 , 10:55 PM
I guess we need to agree on

what is a world class player?

and

What is a degen?
02-09-2012 , 11:12 PM
we all dont know what he expects from poker, since his income is quite save with his PS contract; fact is he plays the best players and already improved in PLO; he is a guy who wants action, looks like he doesnt have the goal to make the most money or sees poker also as his hobby he would be bored if he game selects perfectly; but he knows he can live in great comfort with his attitude so whats a world class player??? maybe this shows more in big live cash games; maybe he just wants to be the best multitabling HU player?! who knows...

sorry for bad english
02-09-2012 , 11:16 PM
Can't we just pretend to agree with Zaarg that Isildur sucks balls and couldn't beat Hellmuth over 100k hands of 250bb NLHU so that he'll just go away?

I'll start...Yes Zaarg you are right, Isildur is awful. If he offered me free coaching I'd tell him to **** off because he's so bad that he'd probably hurt my game with his terrible advice.

I was blind and now I can see thanks to Zaarg and his incredibly high IQ and truly otherworldly reasoning skills with which he uncovered the truth that was eluding the rest of 2+2 for all this time.

Thank you.

      
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