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02-06-2021 , 02:00 AM
Stefan's respond from his blog:

I read an interview with Limitless. Oh, I didn't think I had hurt his feelings so much that he would sink to such cheap demagoguery. After our last session, when he ran out of another deposit at Stars, I waited for him the next day, he did not write anything, then I wrote to him a day later. Asked him when we were going to play. To which he simply did not answer, and now it turns out that I am afraid to play with him, what is going on here?

Now, as far as the challenge is concerned, I don't understand why Victor puts forward conditions that are convenient for him, and even with such a claim that I am obliged to accept them, I do not owe anything to anyone lol. What is my interest in agreeing to this on his terms? After his false manipulative statements, I simply don’t trust him anymore, I think that in the middle of the challenge, in despair, he can install an RTA for himself or put in his place someone who knows how to play poker, for example Truteller. What can he lose if he has been pouring deposit after deposit at Stars for two years?

I am in the lobby every day, Victor, and ready to play with you, if you start answering me on Skype, our game will immediately resume.

If you still want me to take on some obligations to play the distance, then it will be on mutually agreed terms, and not on those that are convenient for you personally. Here's what I suggest:

You said that you were ready to pay 2bb \ 100 handicap to anyone except Llinus, that since I am the top 50 HU players and worse than Fedor Holz, I ask you for 2bb \ 100.

To Fedor, as far as I know, you offered even more for playing with you. Since I am worse than him, it would be completely inconsistent and low on your part to deny me these pitiful 2bb. You consider yourself top1, and me, at best, top50 (according to you), which means that you should expect more than 20bb or even 30bb / 100 over me. You just have no moral right to back down after these words.

The second condition is that we do not reload timebanks. It annoys me how long you think about the simplest solutions and restart the tables every 30 minutes.

If you accept these conditions, then I am ready to take the risks that you will turn out to be a fraud and I will play the agreed distance with you. If you refuse, it turns out that you are a balabol. The choice is yours Mr. -1EV \ BB. aka TOP1 of the world.
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02-06-2021 , 03:54 AM
Nice respond. Im for Stef, lets go.
02-06-2021 , 05:06 AM
Stefan not pusy player
02-06-2021 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Bit of a weird one, wasn't sure where to post, hopefully mods don't mind. I got a very scammy looking message from someone called Paul Newey on Skype. It feels strange as I was not looking for any transfers, and I've never heard of Frank Op De Woerd.

Can anyone who knows the real Paul Newey get in touch with him and confirm if this is him? Obviously if it isn't then it's important he knows.

https://gyazo.com/34e8f460b13ffa781f71e0d753c72791

Again just to re-iterate this is completely out of the blue, and I wasn't messaging anyone looking for any transfers.
Hey, I am Frank Op de Woerd, indeed a Dutch poker journalist.

Someone called Paul Newey started talking to me on Skype about Dutch tax laws, which I know a bit about. I'm not friends with Newey in any way, but I've seen him plenty around since I covered the high rollers for a few years for PokerNews, so it wasn't weird for him to start chatting with me. He asked if I knew someone wanting to trade PS for Stars and I said I would ask around, believing it was Paul. I just started a new website and asked Paul if he was willing to do an interview with me and he was, so that threw me off.

Anyway, I got in touch via via with Linus who was willing to trade but I got a bad feeling about it. I messaged Paul's assistant Robbie who I know quite well and confirmed it wasn't Paul. I deleted the Newey account from my Skype and let Linus know it was a scam. There had been no contact yet between the two and no transfers, so no harm done.

Newey said it wasn't the first time someone impersonated him. The account I was talking to was liveaulnewey but there are numerous (live:topdollarman, paulnewey, paultopdollarman, etc). Newey doesn't use Skype so be careful.
02-06-2021 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by iskander
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02-06-2021 , 07:16 AM
I like pusy player Stefan.
02-06-2021 , 07:24 AM
One professional player paying another top player 2bb/100 doesn't seem right.Even doug vs dnegs there was no such terms when doug was way way ahead of dnegs.
02-06-2021 , 07:27 AM
Imagine calling someone else a fish and then demanding a handicap to play against them. Pathetic from Stefan.
02-06-2021 , 07:35 AM
How is it pathetic? Wiktor has said he will pay anyone 2bb to play them. He has also apparently ignored Stefan's Skype messages and then called him out publicly? Seems like a bit of an attention whore to me tbh.

Berri, Linus and Maikebofin have all arranged their games privately and amicably, Wiktor calling people out and ignoring them on Skype and "omg 3m tattood on you if you lose" is cringe.
02-06-2021 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
How is it pathetic? Wiktor has said he will pay anyone 2bb to play them. He has also apparently ignored Stefan's Skype messages and then called him out publicly? Seems like a bit of an attention whore to me tbh.

Berri, Linus and Maikebofin have all arranged their games privately and amicably, Wiktor calling people out and ignoring them on Skype and "omg 3m tattood on you if you lose" is cringe.
Where did he say he'd pay anyone 2bb? Don't recall ever that happening - although he did offer to play anyone except Linus drunk.

Stefan calls his conditions inconvenient, which was basically lock 50k hands at NL20k+. Since stefan apparently locked 50k hands with TUTI88, it certainly looks from an outside perspective as if he's dodging limitless. If he calls those conditions inconvenient, it's indeed pathetic to demand 2bb and no timebank
02-06-2021 , 08:18 AM
I remember watching one of the Kaki streams of those $500/$1000 games on GG a couple months ago and Wictor came in the chat and said he’d pay 2bb/100 or something like that to anyone but Linus. So Stefan isn’t just pulling that out of his ass, obv.
02-06-2021 , 08:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GazzyB123
How is it pathetic? Wiktor has said he will pay anyone 2bb to play them. He has also apparently ignored Stefan's Skype messages and then called him out publicly? Seems like a bit of an attention whore to me tbh.

Berri, Linus and Maikebofin have all arranged their games privately and amicably, Wiktor calling people out and ignoring them on Skype and "omg 3m tattood on you if you lose" is cringe.
He said that back in August... Clearly a challenge like that isnt open indefinitely. If Stefan wanted it he should have taken it when issued, not bring it up half a year later to reneg after calling Wiktor out and getting cold feet.
02-06-2021 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
How is it pathetic? Wiktor has said he will pay anyone 2bb to play them. He has also apparently ignored Stefan's Skype messages and then called him out publicly? Seems like a bit of an attention whore to me tbh.

Berri, Linus and Maikebofin have all arranged their games privately and amicably, Wiktor calling people out and ignoring them on Skype and "omg 3m tattood on you if you lose" is cringe.
any source where wiktor said that?
He said he will play drunk not pay anyone 2bb/100.
02-06-2021 , 08:35 AM
durrrr being kind of a **** to not let stefan accept his challenge IMO, he said he'd play anyone but Galfond
02-06-2021 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by indoripoha
any source where wiktor said that?
He said he will play drunk not pay anyone 2bb/100.
Not sure about 2bb thing, but he indeed offered Fedor 3bb/100, and now he said that Fedor is better then Stefan. It was an obvious joke, but who cares

02-06-2021 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by iskander
Not sure about 2bb thing, but he indeed offered Fedor 3bb/100, and now he said that Fedor is better then Stefan. It was an obvious joke, but who cares

And Stefan said TUTI88 is better than limitless, while giving TUTI88 4bb/100 for 50k hands but demanding bb to play limitless. This is all obv silly trashtalk and should just man up and play, but limitless is the only one coming up with fair conditions
02-06-2021 , 10:13 AM
dude’s flying halfway across the world to basketball diaries sweat out some russian ditch weed
02-06-2021 , 03:33 PM
krokodil is one hell of a drug
02-06-2021 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
durrrr being kind of a **** to not let stefan accept his challenge IMO, he said he'd play anyone but Galfond
+1 I wonder if Stefan was even born when Durrrr was the top dog. Joking aside, I sure hope seeing Limitless vs Stefan happening..
02-06-2021 , 07:43 PM
in, ty to hh posters
02-06-2021 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
durrrr being kind of a **** to not let stefan accept his challenge IMO, he said he'd play anyone but Galfond
durrrr confirmed balabol?
02-06-2021 , 08:30 PM
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Victor accepted my challenge. We agreed that we do not restart stacks up to 150bb and do not use more than 2 timebank reloads per session. It will be hot.
https://forum.gipsyteam.ru/index.php...post&p=6800161

Match is on, LFG
02-06-2021 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanWCollins
The terms of challenge

02-06-2021 , 08:42 PM
Yea few more tweaks regarding timebanks and stack resets, and we ready to go : ) gona be fun
02-06-2021 , 09:06 PM
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