Coming from someone posting at 3am GMT?

Hmmm......Yea ok!

***Official questions for Dwyte Pilgrim thread***

lol jason young, whoever that is

nevermind...now i remember

Best wishes to Dwyte. He's a super-nice guy.

Bro, you don't get it. I'm happy you are a huge luckbox, but that doesn't change the fact that 95% of good players who play EXCLUSIVELY live MTTs are going to be SOL and broke.

Change that to online cash or SNGs...and you are talking about less than 1% of good players being broke(if they use proper bankroll management).

You are the definition of being results oriented. Believe it or not there are guys with double the hourly of you or dwyte pilgrim playing online right now.

They will be counting their money while both of you lose 300k in 20xx.
I mean ****, you sound like you support buying powerball tickets. Ship that 55 million...eff the haters.

Sorry to say, but Jason Young is really making a fool of himself itt, and I hope he`s just leveling. 15y olds have a better grasp of logical reasoning.

Congrats to Dwyte, great 2p2 pokercast interview, guy is hillarious!

+1 on this...

this thread seriously got derailed from the topic at hand, which is dwytes first huge win and continued dominance in the live arena, now being #1.

it's turning into a online v. live pissing contest. 99.99999999% of players grind live and online. some do better live than online...in the short term. then itll switch and you run better online than live. there is no online vs live...EIther you can play or you cant...once thats cleared up...dwyte is ranked #1 as of today...Guess that means he can play. I mean arent a lot of the best players in the world chasing that title....

Haters just look stupid here!!!

i used to grind live tourneys a while back and consider myself more of a live player than an online player and so would like to agree with the 'live' crew here but you just can't, Boobies4me owned Jason Young pretty badly here.

Dwight might be the best tourney player in the history of the game but because he is playing live we will never be able to establish that as he will never have a good enough sample size to mathematically prove it and in comparison to internet MTT grinders who do have large sample sizes he shouldnt get as much respect- i think thats what the online crowd is saying

not that he should care anyway (Which boobies4me says as well) coz he's just won a ****load, something that most of the onlien crew never will do.

de-railing aside, Dwight has done incredibly well in the past few years and this tops it off- he clearly puts a hell of a lot of effort in to his game and has as robust a sample as any live MTT grinder can hope for...

Apparently Mr. Young is disgruntled with internets pokas in general & spouts off at the mouth like this all the time...here's an example in one of his blogs where he obv displays a ton of confusion as it relates to variance:



"told you guys I’m going to tell you how it is, for better or worse always…WELL RIGHT NOW IM ****ING STEAMING so bad. I’m not going to be one of these fake F*CKS On here who always has everything work out for them….I have always been a live player…never really played much online…I’ve really put in a lot more hours online trying to improve my game over the past year or so..and I have improved a great deal. I recently had my biggest online cash for 51K and went on a nice run playing super high stakes sit n go’s.

I’ve been playing heavy volume for me anyways in 500-1k HU’s and 6max sit n go’s. I never really have the patience when I’m home to be able to devote the entire day or weekend or whatever to playing online. When I go away I love playing, and when I come home, I like doing everything BUT play poker most of the time. So sit n go’s are the answer because I can get in and out if I feel like playing for a bit, and try and make some money. While in Vegas I won 20 straight 1k sit n go’s at one point, and was feeling like I was about to break through into a new uncharted territory with my live and online success over the summer…WELL **** YOU TP, you ****** pieces of sht.

I’ve always felt like whenever I cash out any money, I’m going to get insta-fcked as soon as I do that, and it always happens, but I just chalk it up to me playing bad or whatever…In the last 2 days I’ve felt like Tim Robbins entering Shawshank. I mean they are trying to jam it in me around every corner. The biggest joke ever….I’m deleting the word (****) as often as I can, but I’m literally steaming while I right this…Broken computer and all…I’ve been playing 500-1k heads up holdem, o8 and Omaha Hi the past 2 days I have lost to 2 outters no less than 50 times. Im not kidding….I’ve had a swing in 2 days where I went from being up close to 30k since my last night in Vegas and maintaining while being home for 10 days, to down 5K. -35K in 2 days?! GO *** YOURSELVES.

I’m looking at the hand histories…because sometimes, I definitely play bad, and deserve to lose…but there is a theme here that cannot be questioned…getting it in with AK or AQ vs Ax and they hit x…every time…getting it in with top 2 against bottom 2, and they hit there bottom pair again?!?! it happened 9 times in the past 2 days…i just checked…Pair over pair forget it…now I have chalked up losing sessions and all that to variance in the past, but someone needs to explain to me how this is even possible. I really believe there are “hot” IP addresses and maybe you will call me crazy, but if you do, I will look u dead in the face, and tell you to *** OFF….I know a lot of live pro’s that run like dogsh*t online…HOW in the world can a guy who wins well into 6 figures playing live sit n go’s, have it be the complete opposite online. That is for Tommy…guy wins seats into every major tourny imaginable and cant win a cent online to save his life…the same can be said for so many other guys I know.

I played with all of the high stakes regs over the past couple weeks…and they are nothing special…they play great sure…but there are a lot of people that play great…these guys just run like ****ing GOD all of the time it seems….I’m uninstalling every online poker site on my computer…Im not playing online for at least 1 month, and I’m not putting my horses into anything online for a month either…sorry guys. I hate everyone right now…everyone can go jump off a bridge for all I care. Try to find the next guy on here that tells you he lost 35k in 2 days, gl with that.

Going to apply for a job at wal-mart, that has to be better than playing online poker all day everyday,maybe I’ll get hit by a bus on the way there…if so, it’s been real. Haters rejoice!"

P.S. 2+2 Podcast interview w/ Dwyte was an instant classic

where can i get myself a "hot IP address"?

This is a joke, ok, I know tons of online grinders that are broke that have over a million in cashes, and heres a fact for you 95% of players online are losing, but I am sure that the online players that are posting in this thread are in the other 5%.

Heres the deal, your gona have online guys that are rolling in it which are the top 1 percent, you have a better chance of being a actor or professional athlete. Same goes for Live action players.

Do you even know Dwytes hourly rate? I am gona say its pretty sick and I doubt there are TONS of online guys who have DOUBLE his.

I think this is as good an example as ever to give the "But how much did you lose?" question too.

$700K in winnings, minus just one $10K a month, minus taxes, minus all the other smaller tournaments you bought in for, doesn't seem like a whole lot to me. But then again, I'm just a cash game player so what do I know. I guess luckboxing a couple years of poker > sustainable long term earnings.

Look, he he has a house paid off, doesnt have to work right now, and has a good life. I am gona say 1% of online players and live players can say the same.

Lottery winners meet all these criteria too.

I've played quite a few live MTTs. Its not exactly rocket science.

I think anyone who is a solid enough poker player to win online, but instead chooses to play live MTTs(exclusively) either has different priorities than most human beings or doesn't fully understand how math works.

Lots of people seem to love playing MTTs. Even online...its usually not best financially for a good player. People like hitting big scores.

Honestly, I can't imagine playing live MTTs and being properly rolled.
Its purely shot taking to me. So grinding them full time doesn't make a lot of sense. If I have a 100k bankroll for example...why would I waste my time playing live $1k MTTs? Anyone who has that size bankroll should be making a few hundred an hour at the very least...

I don't care whether he's good or not (although I trust grindplz's opinion more than almost any other poker player, so I assume he's pretty good), I congratulate him and wish him luck. It must be awesome to have the kind of success he's having.

I listened to almost his whole interview wondering why they were calling him Dwyte... I thought they were talking to CHILLSHOT.

never understand people who play live mtts - surely their online hourly rate woudl be much higher assuming theyre semi decent/good at tournament poker

Worst podcast interview ever

& whats wrong with balancing both...and mixing in live cash during an on-going series?

Well, I assume you are referring to the fact that the larger % of winning online players who play smallish stakes will never win a "****load" (this is true, but MSNL+ winners do, btw). But the SSNL grinders who don't get to ship a score like this doesn't really say anything much different than "Well, even though that lotto winner just got lucky to ship $5m that's still much better than most SSNL grinders will do". That's true, but isn't really saying too much since it's not a repeatable result that's earned through grinding, it's just luckboxed.

Comparing him to the entire population of people who have ever played online poker is erroneous. If you compare him to say... all pros online playing MSNL+ it paints a much grimmer picture for what you're alluding to.

This is seriously comedic gold given the context of his previous posts in this thread. Wow.

Gee, that's a tough one.

""and I’m not putting my horses into anything online for a month either…sorry guys. I hate everyone right now…everyone can go jump off a bridge for all I care. Try to find the next guy on here that tells you he lost 35k in 2 days, gl with that."""

Matt Casterella was one of his horses IMO

Comparing him to the entire population of people who have ever played online poker is erroneous. If you compare him to say... all pros online playing MSNL+ it paints a much grimmer picture for what you're alluding to.[/QUOTE]

Ovb I was not comparing him to people who played one time online. And He is still way ahead of most mid stakes pros right now, why because there is never any games going anymore online. All the pros are playing each other and the RAKE is eating them up.

You say 300 tournamens is way to SMALL, then how many tournements should Dwyte play before he is legit and not on a heater? 3000 to 4000? Cause I know Ivey and Hellmuth have not played that many live tournements in their lifetime and therefor there just on a heater to, or am I wrong?