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03-30-2016 , 08:48 AM

#51

Loctus

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I really wonder what the biggest stack he has ran up is with that playstyle over those tens of thousands of hands. Over/under on 2000bb's? 4000?

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03-30-2016 , 09:38 AM

#52

norway20188888

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can someone give me his nickname on stars please???
cant seem to find it in the articles possted.

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03-30-2016 , 10:17 AM

#53

chinagambler

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lol at people saying his VPIP is correlated with him being a psychopath. Being bad at poker doesn't make someone mentally unstable.

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03-30-2016 , 10:23 AM

#54

LektorAJ

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I think it's more his 3 bet and 4 bet stats than his vpip.

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03-30-2016 , 10:45 AM

#55

illdonk

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Originally Posted by Edgelooker1

I thought most of the time, its the person owed doing the killing, not the other way around.

The person owing the money has much more incentive to actually kill than the person being owed. My only knowledge comes from the movies, though, so I assume they had a tense meeting in a seedy diner where the debtor was given seven days to come up with the money and was punched in the stomach by the lender's muscle.

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03-30-2016 , 10:59 AM

#56

DarkMattersMan

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So in order to get out of his debt he caught a murder sentence to avoid paying back. Cool logic bro.

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03-30-2016 , 12:33 PM

#57

Kelvis

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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan

So in order to get out of his debt he caught a murder sentence to avoid paying back. Cool logic bro.

Actually the justice system in the Netherlands is screwed up. He could actually get away with an 18 month sentence and be done with it if he has a good lawyer. If he somehow convinces the judge that it wasn't plotting to murder him but just got angry the sentences are really low.

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03-30-2016 , 12:58 PM

#58

Sammy_Dog

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As for his tennis game, I get the impression that this guy aggressively, and constantly, rushes to the net no matter how many times he gets passed down the line.

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03-30-2016 , 02:28 PM

#59

Chrizza

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Originally Posted by Sammy_Dog

As for his tennis game, I get the impression that this guy aggressively, and constantly, rushes to the net no matter how many times he gets passed down the line.

And here he is together with the victim, Novak Djokovic and Boris Becker in January:

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03-30-2016 , 02:49 PM

#60

MeleaB

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Originally Posted by chinagambler

lol at people saying his VPIP is correlated with him being a psychopath. Being bad at poker doesn't make someone mentally unstable.

"lol" at taking the post too seriously, but also at mis-reading what was posted, which said nothing about bad poker players per se being mentally unstable, or someone's VPIP being correlated with their pyschopathic tendencies!

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03-30-2016 , 03:25 PM

#61

H0RUS

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Originally Posted by illdonk

Also a possible sign of serious mental problems: murdering.

not necessarily. some people murder because its the only option. Doesnt make them mentally unstable.

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03-30-2016 , 03:49 PM

#62

mikeyfan420

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Originally Posted by gabbkk

can someone give me his nickname on stars please???
cant seem to find it in the articles possted.

dastabber

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03-31-2016 , 12:33 AM

#63

JoeSchmo

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Here's hoping the Dutch prison system allows inmates lots of internet time each day.

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03-31-2016 , 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by you_wot_m8

Impressive.

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03-31-2016 , 02:19 AM

#65

Garett bamborough

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Originally Posted by Chrizza

His formula was aggressiveness.

Well we w he's kind of Aggro ...He stabbed the freekin guy !

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03-31-2016 , 04:53 AM

#66

Webjoker

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He mostly played deep ante games with auto reload on. His account here is Markie123.

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03-31-2016 , 05:23 AM

#67

norway20188888

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so his stars nick is MMdj87

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03-31-2016 , 05:25 AM

#68

BadlyBeaten

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Originally Posted by H0RUS

not necessarily. some people murder because its the only option. Doesnt make them mentally unstable.

It isn't murder unless there's another option. Murder is defined as unjustified, i.e. unethical, killing.

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03-31-2016 , 05:39 AM

#69

chinagambler

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Originally Posted by gabbkk

so his stars nick is MMdj87

Confirmed.

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03-31-2016 , 05:44 AM

#70

JudgeHoldem1848

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Originally Posted by BadlyBeaten

It isn't murder unless there's another option. Murder is defined as unjustified, i.e. unethical, killing.

That's a good point but worth noting that the more third world characteristics the jurisdiction in question exhibits the less meaningful the statement becomes until at last it has no meaning at all.

Phrases like kill or be killed have carried divine weight through most history. Adapt or die. Translate those phrases to latin or french and they would nicely adorn any sub saharan flag worth its weight in blood.

Last edited by JudgeHoldem1848; 03-31-2016 at 05:53 AM.

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03-31-2016 , 05:52 AM

#71

Edgelooker1

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Originally Posted by Webjoker

He mostly played deep ante games with auto reload on. His account here is Markie123.

Just reading his 2+2 posts. He did a lot of transactions buying stars and was recently scammed in December. He should of went after the scammer instead of killing his friend.

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03-31-2016 , 06:26 AM

#72

bumpnrun

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Blew his life roll on PLO and possibly killed Someone as a fairly direct result

#DarkSideOfPoker

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03-31-2016 , 08:07 AM

#73

bombonca

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Those stats cant be real? I understand murdering someone, but playing like that i don't.

90% steal and 0% fold to 4bet , looks like the guy was constantly on tilt or just mentally ******ed to play like this over a decent sample.