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*** Durrrr Challenge: Stage II; Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates - IN RUNNING THREAD *** *** Durrrr Challenge: Stage II; Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates - IN RUNNING THREAD ***
View Poll Results: Who will win the Durrrr Challenge II?
Tom "Durrrr" Dwan
1,577 41.89%
Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates
2,188 58.11%

08-27-2010 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CHRONICFEVER
crazy how all these pros are railing this and the ziigmund one liner is gold
haha
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08-27-2010 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by e i pi


I don't know what anyone thinks the edge here or sd is, so I used overly conservative stats. Still look at the swongs. It really takes the full 50k hands to converge. Its only just begun.
One should also realise that the results of pokerhands are not indepently and not identically distributed random variables. Because they are both world class players that would take immediate advantage from any kind tilt of the other, i can only imagine the swings that we will see.
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08-27-2010 , 08:37 PM
Cliffs on challenge thus far? thx
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08-27-2010 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by e i pi


I don't know what anyone thinks the edge here or sd is, so I used overly conservative stats. Still look at the swongs. It really takes the full 50k hands to converge. Its only just begun.
you need the hand history to find the true variance/standard deviation because those details lie within the pot sizes and the frequency at which they occur.

how did you come up with this sd of 120?
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08-27-2010 , 08:51 PM
I am looking to bet on Durrrr for the win. $150 on Durrr to win $200. PM me.
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08-27-2010 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ironfalcon99
its very possible that the whole isildur thing really messed with both durrr's and patricks game.
Can you expand on this?
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08-27-2010 , 08:55 PM
i think Durrr may be supersticious anyone else notice he always sets his avatar to 'smiling durrrr' is this a good omen for him?

i think durrrr will win it and be up around 30k hands
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08-27-2010 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nutfloppa
I am looking to bet on Durrrr for the win. $150 on Durrr to win $200. PM me.
Booked, will pm now.

edit: if anyone had dibs then i retract my action or w/e the right thing to do is.

Last edited by Rob1543; 08-27-2010 at 09:03 PM.
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08-27-2010 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gradx

how did you come up with this sd of 120?
Its a very low sd that might be achievable at 6max or fullring (I think). HU is known to have a much higher sd so you can tell from the graph I posted that the swings are going to be pretty wild over each 5k hand sample.
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08-27-2010 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dos
durrrr: gg
stevesbets (Observer): 'THAT
stevesbets (Observer): IS
stevesbets (Observer): SO
stevesbets (Observer): FRKAEING
stevesbets (Observer): MOTEHR
stevesbets (Observer): GOD DAMN
stevesbets (Observer): UNBELIAVBEL
stevesbets (Observer): I FEEL LIKE I'M GONNA THROW UP AND KILL SOMEONE
jungleman12: gg
durrrr: wts ur hem have us at
Boosted J (Observer): taking action, anyone wanna bet 10k on durrrr, even odds? 100% no risk.
jungleman12: 5829 hands
Alan Boston (Observer): I am a human being.
jungleman12: youre down
jungleman12: 518202.75
Andrew Lichtenberger (Observer): anyone up for dissecting HH together?
jungleman12: err thats how much im up
durrrr: kk 2sec
ziigmund (Observer): take meeting with brian & brian
durrrr: ya seems close to right by my rough count
durrrr: k gl cya
jungleman12: u2
stevesbets (Observer): The truth of the matter is that I had FTP display the player names but REVERSE durrrrs name with jungle`s. durrrr won, and jungle played it like an idiot.
most epic call ever..
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08-27-2010 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Drakulah
Cliffs on challenge thus far? thx
These two dudes are playing heads up unlimited texas hold them on the internet, one of them won more than the other.
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08-27-2010 , 09:19 PM
durrrr doesnt use a HUD ?
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08-27-2010 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dontbescurrrred
durrrr doesnt use a HUD ?
he's ****ing durrrr why would he??
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08-27-2010 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dos
durrrr: gg
stevesbets (Observer): 'THAT
stevesbets (Observer): IS
stevesbets (Observer): SO
stevesbets (Observer): FRKAEING
stevesbets (Observer): MOTEHR
stevesbets (Observer): GOD DAMN
stevesbets (Observer): UNBELIAVBEL
stevesbets (Observer): I FEEL LIKE I'M GONNA THROW UP AND KILL SOMEONE
jungleman12: gg
durrrr: wts ur hem have us at
Boosted J (Observer): taking action, anyone wanna bet 10k on durrrr, even odds? 100% no risk.
jungleman12: 5829 hands
Alan Boston (Observer): I am a human being.
jungleman12: youre down
jungleman12: 518202.75
Andrew Lichtenberger (Observer): anyone up for dissecting HH together?
jungleman12: err thats how much im up
durrrr: kk 2sec
ziigmund (Observer): take meeting with brian & brian
durrrr: ya seems close to right by my rough count
durrrr: k gl cya
jungleman12: u2
stevesbets (Observer): The truth of the matter is that I had FTP display the player names but REVERSE durrrrs name with jungle`s. durrrr won, and jungle played it like an idiot.
wat
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08-27-2010 , 09:26 PM
Neither would have a 10bb/100 edge over the other and I'd imagine the std dev is more than 120 too

Check it out with a 1bb edge over 5k



I mean, the edge could indeed be larger I guess but not 10bb

Even with a larger winrate and at the same std dev, it could go either way over the 50k

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08-27-2010 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CBorders
These two dudes are playing heads up unlimited texas hold them on the internet, one of them won more than the other.
interesting, they both won

I might start playing unlimited texas hold them as well
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08-27-2010 , 09:28 PM
ugh i keep thinking its going on... only to see two pages full of **********
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08-27-2010 , 09:28 PM
summery:

jm is up 520k in just over 6k hands
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08-27-2010 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dontbescurrrred
durrrr doesnt use a HUD ?
If he needs a HUD to get a read on someone he's played 1000s of hands HU, he probably shouldn't be playing so high.
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08-27-2010 , 09:31 PM
Hoping there would be another session tonight. Seems unlikely now.
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08-27-2010 , 09:37 PM
they played pretty late last night
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08-27-2010 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Probability
Booked, will pm now.

edit: if anyone had dibs then i retract my action or w/e the right thing to do is.
Looks like its you. Money sent
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08-27-2010 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
If he needs a HUD to get a read on someone he's played 1000s of hands HU, he probably shouldn't be playing so high.
Not an expert, but don't you think it's easy to miss the difference between someone raising turn 40% of the time and 60% of the time in the last 2k hands?
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08-27-2010 , 09:51 PM
why isn't this challenge open to galfond?
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08-27-2010 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EconTheory
why isn't this challenge open to galfond?
Basically, because they're friends.
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