Going over the Solve For Why show from today. I've included some preliminary timestamps below.

Solve For Why Session #33 Live Cast (Jan 27, 2021 - Matt Berkey & Bill Perkins)


(23:30) Matt Berkey reads Doug's tweet (RE: Daniel's Session #33 tanking) aloud on stream, and immediately reacts by shouting, "What are you talking about, man?! What are you talking about?! Where does this ----ing guy get off, man?!"

(24:30) Following some financial commentary (that I don't comprehend enough to summarize) Matt again asks the question while categorizing Doug's tweet as a "hissy fit." Matt believes it's only fair that Daniel be allowed the ability to tank (because it's within the rules, according to Berkey). Matt calls Doug's stance "madness."

(25:00) Berkey starts getting worked up about Doug's tweet, pointing out Doug's decision to implement limping into his strategy, which Matt believes warrants the response from Daniel to tank. Matt also says that it was Doug who initially sought/hyped this grudge match, was going to "back up the truck." Matt calls out Doug's new limping strategy as a departure from what Matt says Doug communicated previously in the match... about maximizing total win, backing up the truck, etc.

(26:15-26:40) Matt says "go f--- yourself" in reaction to Doug's tweet. "It's just insanity! Come back to Earth!"
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(43:40) Matt is informed of the unique situation that's occurring in real time (arbitrator Phil Galfond being live on-stream with Joey Ingram and stepping away to communicate with Doug and Daniel privately). Matt acknowledges that Phil Galfond has a "very, very, very tough job," but Matt says he would be "beside myself" if Phil Galfond rules against Daniel in this tanking dispute.

(45:15-45:30) Solve For Why has been providing real time total hand counts during grudge match streams. Matt Berkey denotes the "sit out" moment is occurring at 19,934 hands played (6,066 hands were remaining at this point).

(45:50) Matt Berkey communicates to his audience that tanking is "100%" a part of strategy, just like deciding to quit after 2 hours is a part of strategy.
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(1:01:40) Bill Perkins guest call-in begins. That's it so far. Will watch Bill Perkins segment with Matt Berkey now, plus I want to see what Matt and Bill said during the post-game reaction.
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So is Dnegs confirmed CowboyMarco?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GbZUphOybs

Not going to lie Berkey never fails to come across as a moron while trying to sound smart and logical

my experience is that 98 percent of tanking is nothing but time wasting and people who tank a lot are almost always super nitty players of mediocre intelligence who can't process information quickly. occasionally there are exceptions.

Rofl, so many sensitive people.

It's meant as compliment, because that's what he is.

Instagram isn't real life buddy.

And of course I'm also a nobody who made a decent life for himself - and proud of it. Although I wouldn't phrase it like Daniel with the satisfying sausage tweet and hot ass wife.

Which was what this post was about: defending Daniels tweet.

Ya dummy.

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Yea it would.

You can't be serious. Have you ever watched basketball, soccer, football, ...?

This might be the single most ******ed take on this whole issue. Congratulations.

for anyone who thinks tanking and limping are the same- wsop doesn't mention anything about limping- they do about tanking.

next time you're in a poker room call the floor bc someone limps a lot and you'll get laughed out of the room. do it bc someone is always tanking and you'll get a much different response.

No blind increase HUSNGs. Playing him was the worst. Always lost on purpose

it's an angle-shoot:
He's exploiting the fact that the rules for session volume are rules about minimum time, not minimum number of hands. Tanking every action so that number of hands per 2 hour session drops drastically - the railing experience changing completely and the number of sessions required to complete the challenge multiplying, to name two effects - is against the spirit of the challenge/rules. It technically conforms to rules and is a tactic to employ when you're uncomfortable and want to minimise volume until you've studied/improved as much as you want.

I'm guessing this maybe explicitly prohibited for similar future challenges.

Also, it maybe spiteful/petty.

Is there a rule that says Doug must raise preflop? I saw a rule that said you need to play in a timely manner on the site, just wanted to see if there was any precedent for Doug being told not to limp or if people were just making things up. Tyia


Also let’s be real, if Doug was losing nobody would say **** about him limping. Y’all petty af and it shows

This is clearly a stalling tactic. DN saw the limping and went into the post match interview last session claiming that Doug was locking up and that DP could never win playing this startegys.

He has then gone back to his coaches who have told him that DP can absolutely win playing this strategy and that limping pre can be part of a +EV strategy, maybe moreso within the confines of this challenge. (Or perhaps they haven't told him given they seem to be telling him what he wants to hear).

As a response he stalls out the challenge to give himself more time to study and/or tilt Doug. If he was just needing the time to focus on responding to the new limping strategy then he wouldn't be tanking in all the spots where he is on the button, or facing a raise etc (although Doug's raising range looks different now so I guess we can give him that to some extent).

I'd have a lot more respect if he just came out and said, yeah, I need more time to study this, I need to minimise the hands per sesssion to build a strategy that can effectively counter this and give me the best chance of winning. Unfortunately, as we know, DN loves reading the T&C of the sites he plays on (see the preflop chart/hand recording saga from before the strat of the challenge) so he can't claim to be using the time bank to tilt DP as it is against the TOC so he has to build this BS narrative.

It is very disappointing how un-objective people are and the same people consistently support 100% of the actions of one person and criticize 100% of the other

I understand it is human nature and also cultural ("ride or die", "bffs for life", etc.) but idk it's just so, so disappointing to see

There's no particular reason that DN has to respect DP as a human being. There's no rule against him being disrespectful.

How could Kassouf's controversial tanking be comparable to Daniel's when 1.) Kassouf's tanking took place in a tournament, and 2.) Daniel's tanking time is restricted by an automatically initiated 20 second timer?

Do people who think that DP's limping is not fair, also think that it was scummy of Phil Galfond to sit out the last few hands in his challenge against Venividi, because if he folded those hands he couldn't mathematically lose ?

limping is fine. check/raising though is very rude and unsportsmanlike.

This is basically a tournament... Not like DP can cash out stop playing him.

There are built in restrictions for how much you can tank in online poker.

Requiring a player play faster than those time frames is just stupid.

Doug should have required they play on a third party platform that has a 5 second time bank if he wanted that. He agreed to the site and the time frame. Daniel can play however he wants within those time variables.

Before this challenge I would have without question labeled myself a Polk guy. I think there is a large following of Polk who have just followed him on YT (like I have) and are irrationally tied to him and slanted towards whatever he says.

Then on the other side I think it is a very small percent of Dnegs supporters who are "Dneg fan boys".

Polk isn't stupid. He knows he has a massive social media following that crushes Negreanu. And he is 100% pushing that. He is pushing the narrative to shame/push Dnegs into whatever best suits his needs or wants. This guy lives his entire life on +EV and people don't think he realizes that his social media presence destroys Negreanu and don't think he wouldn't use that to win a headsup match?

Polk fanboys dwarf the other side.

Just spotted Dnegs post-session slithering thru Vegas.

It's not like a tournament at all. There are a finite amount of hands that will be played and the end result at the end of those amount of hands are set in stone.

In a tournament, tanking effects blinds and bust outs. It's extremely time sensitive and relevant when one tanks.

Negreanu tanking is sure, annoying. But there is nothing in poker that says "you can't be annoying". The entire point of this game is to HURT THE OPPONENT. If Negreanu was up 500k, I'm sure Polk and his fanboys would be pushing the narrative that Negreanu is cheating by getting outside coaching or some other equivalently stupid nonsense.

He's playing within the rules and trying to say he has to play in a certain time pacing that is faster than the sites pre determined rules is just making excuses and trying to fabricate problems.

Half way through the challenge dnegs added a new betsize to his strategy, was that against the spirit of the game too?