Hearing that rant on the live stream was just lol wow.

Props on the transcript.

His meltdown reminds me of Charlie Sheen having his meltdown, both having wildly aggressive language and nonsensical thinking. In Sheen's case he believes Testosterone cream was to blame for his bizarre behaviour.

Maybe Negreanu has been overapplying testosterone?

The way he is playing Polk certainly suggests so, time and time again in the game he aggressively refuses to let Polk push him around, and makes stands with weak dominated hands.

Polk's cool, Negreanu is raging.

Hey, Negreanu, leave that testosterone alone!

view: after the challenge morphs into 100k hands of 500/1k, Doug should distribute his 20mm winnings to all those grinders who were stiffed by the SNE changes.... become the Robin Hood of poker, immortal hero.

So people here have never seen a guy sitting at 1-3 who keeps getting felted, over and over, and finally, after going back into his pocket 4-5 times, proceeds to stand up, declare that everyone else at the table is a complete donk and an idiot, then invites them all to go get ahold of a couple grand so they can "come back play me for some Real Money!"

Cause that's basically what Dnegs just did last night. Don't put any weight into his comments, they were and are meaningless.

rofl

I dislike Negreanu as much as everyone else on the internet but I've never seen such pearl clutching over someone swearing.

That interview was just pure cringe. Even if he is running extremely bad, that's a pretty poor way to conduct oneself. A bit of a rant is fine, but going on a rant where every second word starts with F is just childish and shows poor emotional control. How on earth is he going to handle 100k hands if he's on ultra life tilt after running bad for a few thousand?

I have no problem with swearing and complaining in competition *if it's not specifically targeted toward a player*. Why judge him as a man if he let's loose after what was obviously a stressful and frustrating HU match?
I was thinking about this the other day and lmaoing.

"THAT C*CK SUCKING, C*CK F*CKING D*CK HAND!?" while gnashing his teeth was some cash money entertainment.

Yikes Daniel.

Polk has to use considerably less mental effort based on experience to make better decisions than Negreanu who will expend considerably more effort to reach less optimal conclusions. Playing longer sessions than the agreed upon 2 hours imo is a big mistake on Negreanu's part just taking into consideration the almost certain widening in the brain fog gap the longer Negreanu goes in each session. The gap may lessen as he gains experience but it will be like trying to win a drag race starting out releasing your drag chute 1/4 of the way down the track then 9/32 of the way, then 5/16, and so on. It would be interesting to see Negreanu's results per session chronologically.

A big +1. Live and online grinding are close to incomparable when it comes to this. A 90 minute session 4-6 tabling cash has to be the equivalent (at best) to an 8 hour session grinding in a casino. In fact, it's possible the 90 minute multi-tabling online session is more mentally taxing.

If you apply the concepts of the adult learning model to this match, DN is in the process of learning a lot of spots (unconscious of many others I would guess) and so his mental expenditure per hand is going to be vastly greater than DP's. Polk has already achieved great things in HUNL so is "unconsciously competent" in many areas. Therefore, the longer each session goes on for, the greater DP's edge becomes. Mental-energy is like physical energy in that regard. You can't feel as good towards the end of your grind as you do in the first hour, in the same way you can't feel as fresh towards the end of a distance run as you do at the start. I actually think DN is extending sessions against better judgment because he's mostly getting bled and he's not developed the emotional control and self-awareness to understand when it's time to clock off for the day. Online poker is brutal and those who make it to decent levels are forced to learn all this **** through experience. DN been playing mostly live poker his whole life and has been shielded from the worst of the brutality that poker can dish out. Ye I know live players go on lengthier downswings due to playing less hands, but there's just nothing in live that compares to the brutality of a truly bottom 1% type run online when you're playing 10x as many hands per hour.

It's like an F1 driver racing vs a kid who's just been fastracked from go-karts to F1. I'm not saying that to pile on DN and make him seem like an amateur (he's obviously a decent player in certain formats) but at the level he's competing at in this challenge, I think the analogy holds true. Maybe with a few years of hard work he could get to elite HU level (lol at "a few weeks" though... even if you forget all the other **** of the last few years, I'd want him to get rinsed for that delusion alone) but it would have to be a gradual progression through tougher and tougher levels. And who knows, maybe with all the best will and hard work in the world, he would never be good enough to get to elite HU level. I doubt most of us would be TBF but I suspect DN isn't as special a poker player as his celebrity status would have everyone believe. He's certainly coming across quite amateurish with regards to his mental-game.

I hope this can manage to be a copy pasta that persists through the years. But I kinda doubt it. Seriously epic ****.

I don’t see it as ‘Pearl clutching’ as much as pointing out the aspect of ‘brand shattering’ or at least ‘exposing his hidden side’.

I mean I’ve watched Daniel on HSP, PAD etc for years and he’s usually very mild-mannered and takes losses as well as most. Thinking back i can’t instantly recall a televised hand where he was bleeped but I’m sure they’re out there. The hand that immediately came to mind was the one where he was getting repeated coolers and Lindgren did it to him - turned quads over flopped straight - and he snapped. Greenstein even made the remark about the paired board meant DN had a straight.

To be honest, DN’s personality and profanity in these post-session rants remind me much more of TV Phil Helmuth.

What’s remarkable IMO is that DN was able to suppress that side of himself for years but feels no need to do same now.

DN has small man, or manlet syndrome. He is a pretty small and frail looking guy and has been his entire life, so add in that plus is own narcissism and other insecurities and that is why he reacts the way he does.

Just look for example on his streams this summer from the WSOP. He was always trying to prove himself to his viewers. Especially when it came to his wife. Always telling people 'how gorgeous she is' or 'look at my sexy wife look look look can't you see it?' He would talk about about sex with her and many other inappropriate things about her that you should never say about your wife to a bunch of strangers.

The guy should be in the "Cult of DNegs" if he can defend that.

Wow.

eat a bag of bleeps

If DN decides to go 25k he could lose 3-5 mill, The more hands they play the bigger advantage for Polk, if he’s smart he would let DN win some back before they hit 12.5

Dnegs has a serious tilt problem.

He should balance his range more.

damn daniel

I wonder if Timex will set a line for a challenge past 25k hands or any stakes played that exceed 200/400.

More likely too much estrogen. They have been playing almost 28 days. It was inevitable.

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Compare daniels response in this challenge to Phil galfond who was down 1m and just kept his cool took a break and started running better /playing better and won