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02-07-2015 , 12:08 AM

#251

Flintoff

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Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,542

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Originally Posted by WCGRider

We dont live together and I wouldnt cheat the challenge by colluding IRL.

Fair enough. That's good enough for me

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02-07-2015 , 12:11 AM

#252

kgbking

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 504

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Originally Posted by feedmykids2

The concern has never been that WCG will cheat and ghost/help in real time, as kaby said if any of the players were concerned about that there would be no challenge/bet.

TC's concern is that WCG might help in the analysis/give some advice to his friend between sessions. This is not cheating, we all ask our friends for help, and if I had the best in the world at my disposal I'd do it more :P. This is not unkosher or unethical at all, don't get me wrong. But the more financial stake WCG and maybe his friends have in this, the more motivated he will be to give good advice to Donger. That's why TC wanted this to be lower, I'm just sayin if WCG and co get tons of side action on this it will negate the low stakes.

None of this is a criticism of WCG or saying that there is any cheating going on, I would just rather bet on TC the less skin WCG has in this on the other side. Ofc nothing stops WCG from helping Donger even with no skin in the game, it just seems more likely that WCG will help more and better the more action he has on this.

ya this is exactly what i was meaning, i hope my comment wasnt taken as WCG would be ghosting him. but as you say analysis / advice from WCG can be very impacting (and id probably be too worried about losing any edge, if i even had any, becuz of this)

WCG is someone i look up too, my comment was never to imply he would cheat

Last edited by kgbking; 02-07-2015 at 12:20 AM.

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02-07-2015 , 12:17 AM

#253

Felt Mountain

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 591

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Originally Posted by WCGRider

We dont live together and I wouldnt cheat the challenge by colluding IRL.

He specified "IRL" when he could have just ended the sentence with a period at "I wouldnt cheat the challenge by colluding." meaning he will perform a virtual collusion.. let's go grab the stones boys

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02-07-2015 , 12:21 AM

#254

feedmykids2

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Originally Posted by sauce123

On the other hand, WCG might get more action on the side if he posts ITT saying he won't help Donger during the challenge

Sure, but if he actually thinks Donger is only a small favorite over TC then getting more action might not outweigh being able to help donger being a significantly bigger favorite with less action. It would certainly be a higher variance approach.

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02-07-2015 , 12:24 AM

#255

rakes

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Originally Posted by WCGRider

We dont live together and I wouldnt cheat the challenge by colluding IRL.

will you be coaching/helping donger in between sessions?

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02-07-2015 , 12:27 AM

#256

EmpireMaker2

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I'll take big TC action at 1.6 if you wanna gamble on the fav here you will pay the price

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02-07-2015 , 12:37 AM

#257

kcbj6

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 216

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Originally Posted by WCGRider

I think Dong is a slight favorite in the challenge. Lets assume he is 1.5 evbb edge over Frame. With a variance simulation using a std deviation of ~120 (This is roughly my STD Deviation). With these numbers Dong would be 56% to win the challenge. I think the odds need to be at least 1.25 - 1 Dong - TC to be a fair line.

Im not going to bet on this (will accept at 1.25 - 1) as I assume there are plenty of others ready to bet, but I think 1.25-1.3 - 1 is roughly fair.

if u think this is fair can i bet dong at 1.4 u have a nice middle for yourself?

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02-07-2015 , 12:52 AM

#258

samooth

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wtf is 1.5 evbb edge lol

amazing how poker |....| struggle with uncertainty

gl guys

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02-07-2015 , 12:55 AM

#259

JDalla

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Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15,537

also looking to xbook on donger giving 1bb, seems better than all the side betting

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02-07-2015 , 12:58 AM

#260

WCGRider

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Originally Posted by sauce123

On the other hand, WCG might get more action on the side if he posts ITT saying he won't help Donger during the challenge

I was preparing a response of what I will and wont do, but then I realized I actually don't need to help Dong in any way. He will be taking this challenge on without my help.

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02-07-2015 , 01:12 AM

#261

ChicagoJoey

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 15,467

lol this is great

Will be doing a preview for this and WCG WILL be making his return to the power poker airwaves to talk more about it

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02-07-2015 , 01:48 AM

#262

BitchiBee

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tc vs donger kim is great and all but when will kingdmer vs wcg for #1 take place

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02-07-2015 , 01:49 AM

#263

King of the North

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 149

did everyone forget asianflushie vs the world in the beginning of thread? get him some action.

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02-07-2015 , 01:49 AM

#264

crashwhips

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Cool that this challenge is actually going down, when I read op and some of the followup posts figured it was a matter of dk and wcg getting drunk together and deciding to stir up some sh_t by issuing challenge they knew wasn't going to be accepted.

gl to both interested to see how this plays out and hope it's a good match

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02-07-2015 , 01:51 AM

#265

crashwhips

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Also, wcg, if you don't mind saying, at roughly what # position would you currently rank tc in your own hunl power rankings list?

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02-07-2015 , 02:17 AM

#266

Donger Kim

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Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 72

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Originally Posted by crashwhips

gl to both interested to see how this plays out and hope it's a good match

I don't drink,

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02-07-2015 , 02:28 AM

#267

King of the North

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Originally Posted by Donger Kim

I don't drink,

Do you play starcraft? Rank?

Thanks for doing this. Poker needs some dramas and/or duels.

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02-07-2015 , 03:28 AM

#268

Donger Kim

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Originally Posted by King of the North

Do you play starcraft? Rank?

Thanks for doing this. Poker needs some dramas and/or duels.

I believe I just climbed out of the silver league before I hung up the gloves.

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02-07-2015 , 03:31 AM

#269

aejones

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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1

I appreciate you countering in my direction. However atm 25/50, 10khands, 30ksb, is all I can do. Taxes are actually a factor in 2 ways. We can think of this as round 1 though

Glad it's friendly, I have a ton of respect for your game, and personally I find it much more enjoyable like this instead of it being some rage HU4rollz.

Lmk if you're up for this and we can iron out some details.

no way, really angry hu4rollz was so amazing, though i suppose it's unsurprising cooler heads have prevailed in the next generation

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Originally Posted by EmpireMaker2

You rate yourself the 3rd best player but cannot afford these stakes OK BUDDY

excellent old school em2 post

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02-07-2015 , 05:26 AM

#270

AnFiieLd.

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Are you guys going to play this on PS or FTP?

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02-07-2015 , 05:41 AM

#271

TouchOfEVil

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Originally Posted by Donger Kim

I believe I just climbed out of the silver league before I hung up the gloves.

then you moved on to LoL and became a boss crushing diamond1?

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02-07-2015 , 05:52 AM

#272

Donger Kim

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Originally Posted by TouchOfEVil

then you moved on to LoL and became a boss crushing diamond1?

I've never played league of legend before. I do enjoy playing counter-strike with my friends.

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02-07-2015 , 05:53 AM

#273

Donger Kim

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Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 72

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Originally Posted by TouchOfEVil

then you moved on to LoL and became a boss crushing diamond1?

I assume Pokerstars since its 25-50. Is rake still 50c there?

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02-07-2015 , 06:40 AM

#274

AnFiieLd.

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Yeah still 50c as PS

Not sure about the 2550 rake on FTP.

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02-07-2015 , 06:46 AM

#275

JohnnyPanic

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 919

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Originally Posted by Donger Kim

I believe I just climbed out of the silver league before I hung up the gloves.

on kr server? so must be like platinum on US or EU

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