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Old 02-07-2015, 12:08 AM   #251
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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We dont live together and I wouldnt cheat the challenge by colluding IRL.
Fair enough. That's good enough for me
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:11 AM   #252
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The concern has never been that WCG will cheat and ghost/help in real time, as kaby said if any of the players were concerned about that there would be no challenge/bet.

TC's concern is that WCG might help in the analysis/give some advice to his friend between sessions. This is not cheating, we all ask our friends for help, and if I had the best in the world at my disposal I'd do it more :P. This is not unkosher or unethical at all, don't get me wrong. But the more financial stake WCG and maybe his friends have in this, the more motivated he will be to give good advice to Donger. That's why TC wanted this to be lower, I'm just sayin if WCG and co get tons of side action on this it will negate the low stakes.

None of this is a criticism of WCG or saying that there is any cheating going on, I would just rather bet on TC the less skin WCG has in this on the other side. Ofc nothing stops WCG from helping Donger even with no skin in the game, it just seems more likely that WCG will help more and better the more action he has on this.
ya this is exactly what i was meaning, i hope my comment wasnt taken as WCG would be ghosting him. but as you say analysis / advice from WCG can be very impacting (and id probably be too worried about losing any edge, if i even had any, becuz of this)

WCG is someone i look up too, my comment was never to imply he would cheat

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Old 02-07-2015, 12:17 AM   #253
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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We dont live together and I wouldnt cheat the challenge by colluding IRL.
He specified "IRL" when he could have just ended the sentence with a period at "I wouldnt cheat the challenge by colluding." meaning he will perform a virtual collusion.. let's go grab the stones boys
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:21 AM   #254
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On the other hand, WCG might get more action on the side if he posts ITT saying he won't help Donger during the challenge
Sure, but if he actually thinks Donger is only a small favorite over TC then getting more action might not outweigh being able to help donger being a significantly bigger favorite with less action. It would certainly be a higher variance approach.
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:24 AM   #255
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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We dont live together and I wouldnt cheat the challenge by colluding IRL.
will you be coaching/helping donger in between sessions?
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:27 AM   #256
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

I'll take big TC action at 1.6 if you wanna gamble on the fav here you will pay the price
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:37 AM   #257
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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I think Dong is a slight favorite in the challenge. Lets assume he is 1.5 evbb edge over Frame. With a variance simulation using a std deviation of ~120 (This is roughly my STD Deviation). With these numbers Dong would be 56% to win the challenge. I think the odds need to be at least 1.25 - 1 Dong - TC to be a fair line.

Im not going to bet on this (will accept at 1.25 - 1) as I assume there are plenty of others ready to bet, but I think 1.25-1.3 - 1 is roughly fair.
if u think this is fair can i bet dong at 1.4 u have a nice middle for yourself?
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:52 AM   #258
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

wtf is 1.5 evbb edge lol

amazing how poker |....| struggle with uncertainty

gl guys
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:55 AM   #259
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

also looking to xbook on donger giving 1bb, seems better than all the side betting
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Old 02-07-2015, 12:58 AM   #260
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On the other hand, WCG might get more action on the side if he posts ITT saying he won't help Donger during the challenge
I was preparing a response of what I will and wont do, but then I realized I actually don't need to help Dong in any way. He will be taking this challenge on without my help.
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:12 AM   #261
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

lol this is great


Will be doing a preview for this and WCG WILL be making his return to the power poker airwaves to talk more about it

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Old 02-07-2015, 01:48 AM   #262
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

tc vs donger kim is great and all but when will kingdmer vs wcg for #1 take place
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:49 AM   #263
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

did everyone forget asianflushie vs the world in the beginning of thread? get him some action.
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:49 AM   #264
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

Cool that this challenge is actually going down, when I read op and some of the followup posts figured it was a matter of dk and wcg getting drunk together and deciding to stir up some sh_t by issuing challenge they knew wasn't going to be accepted.

gl to both interested to see how this plays out and hope it's a good match
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:51 AM   #265
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

Also, wcg, if you don't mind saying, at roughly what # position would you currently rank tc in your own hunl power rankings list?
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Old 02-07-2015, 02:17 AM   #266
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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Cool that this challenge is actually going down, when I read op and some of the followup posts figured it was a matter of dk and wcg getting drunk together and deciding to stir up some sh_t by issuing challenge they knew wasn't going to be accepted.

gl to both interested to see how this plays out and hope it's a good match
I don't drink,
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Old 02-07-2015, 02:28 AM   #267
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I don't drink,
Do you play starcraft? Rank?

Thanks for doing this. Poker needs some dramas and/or duels.
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:28 AM   #268
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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Do you play starcraft? Rank?

Thanks for doing this. Poker needs some dramas and/or duels.
I believe I just climbed out of the silver league before I hung up the gloves.
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Old 02-07-2015, 03:31 AM   #269
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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I appreciate you countering in my direction. However atm 25/50, 10khands, 30ksb, is all I can do. Taxes are actually a factor in 2 ways. We can think of this as round 1 though
Glad it's friendly, I have a ton of respect for your game, and personally I find it much more enjoyable like this instead of it being some rage HU4rollz.

Lmk if you're up for this and we can iron out some details.
no way, really angry hu4rollz was so amazing, though i suppose it's unsurprising cooler heads have prevailed in the next generation

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You rate yourself the 3rd best player but cannot afford these stakes OK BUDDY
excellent old school em2 post
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Old 02-07-2015, 05:26 AM   #270
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

Are you guys going to play this on PS or FTP?
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Old 02-07-2015, 05:41 AM   #271
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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I believe I just climbed out of the silver league before I hung up the gloves.
then you moved on to LoL and became a boss crushing diamond1?
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Old 02-07-2015, 05:52 AM   #272
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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then you moved on to LoL and became a boss crushing diamond1?
I've never played league of legend before. I do enjoy playing counter-strike with my friends.
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Old 02-07-2015, 05:53 AM   #273
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then you moved on to LoL and became a boss crushing diamond1?
I assume Pokerstars since its 25-50. Is rake still 50c there?
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Old 02-07-2015, 06:40 AM   #274
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Yeah still 50c as PS Not sure about the 2550 rake on FTP.
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Old 02-07-2015, 06:46 AM   #275
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Re: Donger Kim to Nick Frame (TCfromUB) HU Challenge

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I believe I just climbed out of the silver league before I hung up the gloves.
on kr server? so must be like platinum on US or EU
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