Surprisingly short waitlists when Guy is playing. Only 2 waiting on one table, none on the waitlist on the other.

Pepp must be on tilt to overplay a ten high flush this bad, unless Luckygump has an image that I'm not aware of


Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 5 players - View hand 1559538
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

LuckyGump (BB): $20000.00
Zypherin (UTG): $19140.00
H@££INGGOL (CO): $19580.00
Hörhö (BTN): $20120.00
PepperoniF (SB): $48938.00

Pre Flop: ($500.00)
3 folds, PepperoniF raises to $800, LuckyGump calls $600

Flop: ($1800.00) 6 7 2 (2 players)
PepperoniF bets $1200, LuckyGump raises to $3423, PepperoniF raises to $5646, LuckyGump raises to $18733, PepperoniF raises to $31820, LuckyGump calls $427 all in

Turn: ($40120.00) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($40120.00) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $40120.00
LuckyGump shows K A 3 8 (a flush, King high)
PepperoniF shows T 5 K 3 (a flush, Ten high)
LuckyGump wins $40115.00
(Rake: $5.00)






Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 5 players - View hand 1559540
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

LuckyGump (SB): $40115.00
Zypherin (BB): $19100.00
H@££INGGOL (UTG): $19540.00
Hörhö (CO): $20080.00
PepperoniF (BTN): $28938.00

Pre Flop: ($500.00)
1 fold, Hörhö raises to $600, 1 fold, LuckyGump raises to $2200, 1 fold, Hörhö calls $1600

Flop: ($4800.00) 8 T 7 (2 players)
LuckyGump checks, Hörhö bets $2800, LuckyGump raises to $13195, Hörhö raises to $17840 all in, LuckyGump calls $4645

Turn: ($40480.00) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($40480.00) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $40480.00
LuckyGump shows 9 3 6 5 (a straight, Six to Ten)
Hörhö shows K 2 K T (two pair, Kings and Eights)
LuckyGump wins $40475.00
(Rake: $5.00)



Those two hands were back to back

Fakelove sat out soon after Zypherin arrived, so whoever he is, he's definitely not a bumhunter


Edit: He's back actually, also started up a new table w/ Rui. Rui asks "2 tables" and he says "sry just one"... dunno if that helps the PA high stakes back in FTP days, did he usually keep his table #s low? He's on 3 total (2 6m, one HU)

Why are you so sure?

Most high stakes player view him as a fish. So either they are wrong or Durrrr actually is a fish. Both seem unlikely.

And secondly Durrrr seems to always be trying to be as ethical as possible. And multi-accounting isn't very ethical.

i think this is the fist time i've seen H@££INGGOL play these stakes.

Well durrr is down in PLO on HighstakesDB and in a thread where someone posted his datamined high stakes PLO hands from 2006 (HighstakesDB started in 2007) durrr was way down back then as well, so if you go by his results I don't think he's good enough to be immediately recognizable as a top player if he's playing on someone else's account

That said I don't get why people think that durrr is long, it just seems so arbitrary, and I don't see any reason to believe it's so. But still, I don't think that the fact the account is getting action necessarily is an argument against the case.


With Zypherin on the tables, what better time to take a shot

PA never liked to play many tables. He played 4 tables in the Durrrr challenge, but i remember him saying in an interview or something that he was struggling with this

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 3 players - View hand 1559548
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

aba20 (BB): $20000.00
PepperoniF (BTN): $20835.00
Fake Love888 (SB): $19149.00

Pre Flop: ($420.00)
PepperoniF raises to $600, Fake Love888 calls $500, aba20 raises to $2520, 1 fold, Fake Love888 calls $1920

Flop: ($5760.00) T 9 3 (2 players)
Fake Love888 checks, aba20 bets $3800, Fake Love888 raises to $16589 all in, aba20 calls $12789

Turn: ($38938.00) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($38938.00) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $38938.00
aba20 shows T J 9 Q (two pair, Tens and Nines)
Fake Love888 shows 6 Q 4 Q (a pair of Queens)
aba20 wins $38936.00
(Rake: $2.00)

hah, yeah looked up on hsdb and he has player this high before with zypherin on the tables before as well coincidentally.

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 3 players - View hand 1559549
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

aba20 (BTN): $35943.00
PepperoniF (SB): $27916.00
Fake Love888 (BB): $16400.00

Pre Flop: ($420.00)
aba20 raises to $600, 1 fold, Fake Love888 raises to $2020, aba20 calls $1420

Flop: ($4260.00) Q T 8 (2 players)
Fake Love888 bets $4258, aba20 raises to $17032, Fake Love888 calls $10082 all in

Turn: ($32940.00) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($32940.00) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $32940.00
aba20 shows 7 3 9 J (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Fake Love888 shows Q K 5 A (three of a kind, Queens)
aba20 wins $32938.00
(Rake: $2.00)











That's it for me, have to write a paper, hopefully someone will pick up the hand posting

Last 4 hours:

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Zypherin (CO): $46027.00
H@££INGGOL (BTN): $30250.00
Hörhö (SB): $10115.00
aba20 (BB): $21010.00
Fake Love888 (UTG): $49350.00
1Il|1Il|1il| (MP): $41284.00

Pre Flop: ($540.00)
Fake Love888 raises to $800, 1 fold, Zypherin calls $800, 2 folds, aba20 raises to $3540, Fake Love888 calls $2740, 1 fold

Flop: ($8220.00) 8 Q K (2 players)
aba20 bets $5200, Fake Love888 calls $5200

Turn: ($18620.00) 2 (2 players)
aba20 bets $12230 all in, Fake Love888 calls $12230

River: ($43080.00) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $43080.00
aba20 shows A 6 A 4 (a pair of Aces)
Fake Love888 shows 9 A K 7 (a pair of Kings)
aba20 wins $43075.00
(Rake: $5.00)



Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

LuckyGump (BB): $59849.00
Zypherin (UTG): $18790.00
H@££INGGOL (MP): $28276.00
Hörhö (CO): $25540.00
aba20 (BTN): $26045.00
Fake Love888 (SB): $192760.00

Pre Flop: ($540.00)
3 folds, aba20 raises to $600, 1 fold, LuckyGump raises to $2140, aba20 calls $1540

Flop: ($4620.00) A 4 Q (2 players)
LuckyGump checks, aba20 bets $3400, LuckyGump raises to $8600, aba20 raises to $23865 all in, LuckyGump calls $15265

Turn: ($52350.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($52350.00) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $52350.00
LuckyGump shows 7 T K J (high card Ace)
aba20 shows 3 K A 4 (two pair, Aces and Fours)
aba20 wins $52345.00
(Rake: $5.00)

It's not arbitrary at all my friend. It's circumstantial evidence combined with the style of play.

Btw, FTP made exceptions for Isildur and Guy but Stars would be above making an exception for Durrrr? I mean if I managed Stars and my biggest competitor's 2nd brightest star asked me if he could play but wanted to keep it on the down low I would snap call.

kind of a newbie question, but...

when I try to join the table (sometimes i click on the sit by mistake) it says i have to e-mail PS if i want to play there. how does that work? they ask for your documents once again? i mean, do they make a deeper research on you and your background?
'cause if so, that would mean they know if it's durrr or not...

not that it matters, i'm just curious.

since the location is china.. if it was durrrr he would have some chinese business man make the account and send in the documents for him i'd assume.

but there are a lot of people living in china, so...

and ptr stats... I don't feel comfortable posting what I've found but anybody's free to do comparisons themselves. It would have to be a spectacular coincidence for it not to be durrrr imo.

I always thought you just had to sent in the docs that proved the info you supplied (adress, bank account, name) was correct and that was that. I'm not sure though.

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

LuckyGump (BTN): $28479.00
Zypherin (SB): $15920.00
H@££INGGOL (BB): $24151.00
Hörhö (UTG): $22415.00
aba20 (MP): $73525.00
Fake Love888 (CO): $186710.00

Pre Flop: ($540.00)
1 fold, aba20 raises to $800, Fake Love888 calls $800, LuckyGump raises to $3740, 2 folds, aba20 calls $2940, Fake Love888 calls $2940

Flop: ($11760.00) 4 Q T (3 players)
aba20 checks, Fake Love888 checks, LuckyGump bets $11755, aba20 folds, Fake Love888 raises to $47020, LuckyGump calls $12944 all in

Turn: ($61158.00) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($61158.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $61158.00
LuckyGump shows A 5 7 A (a pair of Aces)
Fake Love888 shows J 8 Q T (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Fake Love888 wins $61153.00
(Rake: $5.00)



Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Zypherin (BB): $40702.00
H@££INGGOL (UTG): $27685.00
Hörhö (MP): $16955.00
aba20 (CO): $42225.00
Fake Love888 (BTN): $40500.00
1Il|1Il|1il| (SB): $29909.00

Pre Flop: ($540.00)
H@££INGGOL raises to $600, Hörhö calls $600, 1 fold, Fake Love888 calls $600, 2 folds

Flop: ($2340.00) 3 8 9 (3 players)
H@££INGGOL checks, Hörhö checks, Fake Love888 bets $2200, H@££INGGOL raises to $8800, Hörhö folds, Fake Love888 calls $6600

Turn: ($19940.00) 6 (2 players)
H@££INGGOL bets $4800, Fake Love888 calls $4800

River: ($29540.00) 9 (2 players)
H@££INGGOL bets $13445 all in, Fake Love888 folds

Final Pot: $29540.00
H@££INGGOL wins $29535.00
(Rake: $5.00)

Duhn Duhn Duhn!

Rangey if you were to post what you found could you think about doing it in a different thread? I'm always annoyed by the mindless speculation clogging up this thread. I'm sure what you've found is interesting but lets keep this thread nice and tidy.

Account verifying process at least at pokerstars.fr means supplying them with your ID, bank account information and waiting for them to send you a verification code letter by mail.

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

LuckyGump (BB): $22346.00
Zypherin (UTG): $22369.00
Hörhö (CO): $25550.00
aba20 (BTN): $65555.00
Fake Love888 (SB): $225694.00

Pre Flop: ($500.00)
Zypherin calls $200, Hörhö calls $200, aba20 calls $200, 1 fold, LuckyGump raises to $1300, Zypherin calls $1100, Hörhö calls $1100, aba20 calls $1100

Flop: ($5500.00) 7 6 4 (4 players)
LuckyGump checks, Zypherin checks, Hörhö bets $2800, aba20 raises to $11200, LuckyGump folds, Zypherin folds, Hörhö raises to $24210 all in, aba20 calls $13010

Turn: ($53920.00) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($53920.00) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $53920.00
Hörhö shows K 8 A 5 (a straight, Four to Eight)
aba20 shows 7 T T 5 (a full house, Fours full of Tens)
aba20 wins $53915.00
(Rake: $5.00)

aba timebanked on turn seemed he knew he was beat

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Zypherin (CO): $43017.00
H@££INGGOL (BTN): $38060.00
Hörhö (SB): $17630.00
aba20 (BB): $42840.00
Fake Love888 (UTG): $27975.00
1Il|1Il|1il| (MP): $28424.00

Pre Flop: ($540.00)
2 folds, Zypherin raises to $600, 2 folds, aba20 raises to $2140, Zypherin calls $1540

Flop: ($4620.00) 6 J 5 (2 players)
aba20 bets $3800, Zypherin raises to $16015, aba20 calls $12215

Turn: ($36650.00) 8 (2 players)
aba20 checks, Zypherin bets $24822 all in, aba20 calls $24645 all in

River: ($85940.00) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $85940.00
Zypherin shows 6 2 A A (a flush, Ace high)
aba20 shows K K 8 5 (a flush, King high)
Zypherin wins $85935.00
(Rake: $5.00)

simple re-sending of ID docs again, to stop people hijacking your account and emptying it at high stakes, have some small defense against people buying accounts to play on, etc

but obv the guy who played the million 2nl hands or whatever it was can verify, then let durrrr/ivey/whoever play for fun in Macau, and we'd never know. kind of useless to even speculate really, and +1 to it clogging up thread (like this post)

Hmm, now THIS interests me.

You only took in to account the high staked hands and not the micro stakes hands right? But there are only about 10,000 of them. That's enough to be 99% sure?

Poker Stars $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $40 Ante - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

LuckyGump (SB): $24036.00
Zypherin (BB): $16549.00
Axelf82 (UTG): $19500.00
Hörhö (MP): $20268.00
aba20 (CO): $106367.00
Fake Love888 (BTN): $214754.00

Pre Flop: ($540.00)
Axelf82 raises to $600, 1 fold, aba20 calls $600, Fake Love888 calls $600, 2 folds

Flop: ($2340.00) 2 T 5 (3 players)
Axelf82 bets $1400, aba20 raises to $4400, Fake Love888 calls $4400, Axelf82 folds

Turn: ($12540.00) K (2 players)
aba20 bets $11800, Fake Love888 calls $11800

River: ($36140.00) 7 (2 players)
aba20 checks, Fake Love888 checks

Final Pot: $36140.00
aba20 shows J 9 Q 8 (high card King)
Fake Love888 shows 2 4 4 3 (a pair of Fours)
Fake Love888 wins $36135.00
(Rake: $5.00)

plus PTR is f**ked right now, huge holes in database, old data not displayed accurately + no HHs captured since last stars update