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12-11-2014 , 06:09 PM

#26

Anonym4TheBest

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Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 10

This could be another of the danish victims, Haarby was a winning professional NL1k$ player, back in 2012 he posted a -104 buy in graph (holdem)

http://www.pokernet.dk/forum/pokergu...ig-stadig.html

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12-11-2014 , 06:18 PM

#27

ownage4u

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 235

just wanted to say that rookienfl on ftp is a different person than rookienfl on party (from dk)

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12-11-2014 , 06:51 PM

#28

callme

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,676

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Originally Posted by MacauBound

SO sad to imagine these HS players that have legitimately honed their craft get taken for millions of dollars and, what is possibly much worse, their confidence in their games completely eroded to the point where some have given up on poker.

Sorry to hear about that, i´m sure this guy wont enjoy the rest of his life and hopefully there is some money to be rescued.. BUT its exactly this kind of ignorance that opens up these kind of opportunities for others. As someone else said - this is your business and you need to protect it in a professional way.. and that means more than making your ranges bulletproof...

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12-11-2014 , 08:19 PM

#29

kevin4283

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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist

This is a nice Cliffs/HQ of the rumors and accusations thus far. Much appreciated.

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12-12-2014 , 12:49 AM

#30

Uh*Oh

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 761

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Originally Posted by basstrapsz

This is my primary fear from buying used / resold laptops, since you never know what they could have done to the computer.

It doesn't matter what they've done if you simply reformat the drive and set it up from scratch. And if you don't know how to do this, you really have no business playing high stakes poker online.

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12-12-2014 , 12:58 AM

#31

blopp

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,756

If your playing hs online you dont have any business buying used computers.

Then you can also just buy new hardrives as many times as you want.

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12-12-2014 , 01:09 AM

#32

Clayton

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i remember jungleman getting dark at how he couldn't figure out the account 'unsuspecting' and how that guy always got the better of jungleman

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12-12-2014 , 01:10 AM

#33

H3llPhilmuth

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 108

Poker world was getting too boring until this...!?

Last edited by H3llPhilmuth; 12-12-2014 at 01:15 AM.

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12-12-2014 , 01:14 AM

#34

KyleFly

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Originally Posted by Clayton

i remember jungleman getting dark at how he couldn't figure out the account 'unsuspecting' and how that guy always got the better of jungleman

standarddddd

thats so sick. Does this have anything to do with that other EPT thread about the disappearing and reappearing laptops?

EDIT: Holy balls it does this is crazy story.

Last edited by KyleFly; 12-12-2014 at 01:23 AM.

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12-12-2014 , 01:52 AM

#35

Uh*Oh

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Originally Posted by blopp

If your playing hs online you dont have any business buying used computers.

Then you can also just buy new hardrives as many times as you want.

LOL, true, but knowing how to reformat the drive on a new computer that might have become infected is really the most basic sort of tech awareness. If you can't do that, you likely can't even begin to understand the dangers online and how to protect yourself.

Elsewhere someone was saying online HS players should hire someone to keep them secure, I suppose that's an option, but then you have to trust them, and nothing is really secure now, even banks and the largest corporations are routinely breached, and they have state-of-the-art protection.

I think I'll stick to brick and mortar poker.

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12-12-2014 , 03:57 AM

#36

scroosko

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lol at people coining in 6 figs+ a year buying used laptops

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12-12-2014 , 04:09 AM

#37

Uh*Oh

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Originally Posted by scroosko

lol at people coining in 6 figs+ a year buying used laptops

Nobody said they were, but what's truly mind-boggling about this story is that HS online players would buy laptops from the Danish poker pro who was apparently crushing the games. Like someone said, this has the makings of a good movie plot.

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12-12-2014 , 04:19 AM

#38

invictus-1

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,896

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Originally Posted by Uh*Oh

it's a lot riskier when you're buying second hand because they could just install a hardware keylogger that would require someone with a good understanding of computers to even discover it (if it's non-public).

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12-12-2014 , 04:45 AM

#39

Uh*Oh

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Originally Posted by invictus-1

What a nightmare, and we're still in the infancy of computing. It's going to get very dicy.

On a related note, they're installing USB ports at all the tables in quite a few brick and mortar rooms now, ostensibly so that people don't have to get up from the table to recharge; well, the same USB ports can also be used to transfer data... I'm just sayin'

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12-12-2014 , 05:04 AM

#40

archii

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Originally Posted by Uh*Oh

It doesn't matter what they've done if you simply reformat the drive and set it up from scratch. And if you don't know how to do this, you really have no business playing high stakes poker online.

What? If you're not handy with computers means you have no business in highstakes poker? A bit weird statement dont you think? :P You can always pay an expert to do these, or simply dont buy used computers. I dont know why one would.

Victim blaming is pointless right now so lets not do that. We can only hope HS players, and actually everyone involved in poker pretty much regardless of stakes, takes security super serious from this point forward.

Scary to imagine what might have happened to Jeans had the perpetrators managed to plant their trojans unnoticed.

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12-12-2014 , 05:40 AM

#41

MastaAces

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Originally Posted by Uh*Oh

Yeah, don't ever use any public USB ports. Ever.

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12-12-2014 , 05:41 AM

#42

invictus-1

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Originally Posted by Uh*Oh

there's been quite a few warnings by major news outlets that mobile charging stations can be used for data theft. this is why you should use a cable that only transfers power if the computer is not your own.

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12-12-2014 , 05:59 AM

#43

Elite Rounder

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Unbelievable. Poker is going down hard. Every day you hear new scams etc.. It's never ending!

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12-12-2014 , 06:26 AM

#44

blopp

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,756

Interesting if its possible to see where the trail of money is going --> is the money dumped into other known accounts before cashouts for example?

I guess if they know what accounts are into this, they can get help from HSDB and PTR.

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12-12-2014 , 06:31 AM

#45

William Murderface

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Originally Posted by Uh*Oh

It doesn't matter what they've done if you simply reformat the drive and set it up from scratch. And if you don't know how to do this, you really have no business playing high stakes poker online.

If your BIOS itself is flashed with a virus/corrupt, a reformat won't clean the PC.

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12-12-2014 , 07:34 AM

#46

TouchOfEVil

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Wow. Jungleman is out ALOT of monies to various scams. makes ones mind twist when thinking about how many souls he mustve crushed.

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12-12-2014 , 07:52 AM

#47

mumpfmampf

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Originally Posted by Uh*Oh

It actually sounds like a pretty bad movie.

Nobody would find it believable that people who make millions from poker are THAT stupid when it comes to keeping their accounts safe. It´s obviously a horrible intrusion of privacy if you get attacked by your friend using USB sticks to upload trojans, but serious wow at buying "cheap laptops".

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12-12-2014 , 08:27 AM

#48

LektorAJ

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^ presumably though he sold laptops both with and without trojans to balance his range. If your friend has bought one and it seems ok, maybe you would be more careless when you buy yours.

Anyone know if this is related to the well-known Norwegian pro who is said to have lost his roll to someone who could see his cards?

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12-12-2014 , 08:45 AM

#49

codliveroil

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 211

why not buy unusually cheap laptops and resell them with profit.
or format them before using is this too much levelling?

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12-12-2014 , 08:46 AM

#50

mumpfmampf

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ

I´m assuming you´re talking about Johnny Lodden? I read a story about him being approached regarding a possible sponsorship deal. He handed out his personal e-mail adress and promptly received an e-mail that contained a trojan. This is obviously just a rumour and I can´t remember where I read it (Huge Lodden fanboy since I once saw him sit with $1m or so on two tables in 2006).

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