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06-17-2024 , 12:38 PM

#9401

borg23

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Originally Posted by TheEducatedGuesser

Yeah, you can see that multiway solvers on 345 board w/TJs without flush draw would actually make pretty good bet on the flop forcing pre aggressor fold his KJ,KT etc.
Same video 15 big blinds he raise-calls 3b with tens and folds KJx. In one online event he 4,5x opens on button with QTs because didnt want to fold his hand if big blind with 20 big blinds shoves.

Really would like to see Negreanu to win some event, but overall it seems his play is all over the place. But I like the vlog nevertheless.

wait so he opened way bigger than normal so he wouldn't have to fold when he's forcing the BB to shove hands that are way stronger than normal that have q10s smashed?
well at least he'd have an over vs jacks lol.

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06-17-2024 , 01:04 PM

#9402

SandraXII

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DN’s hand reviews always seem to acknowledge there’s a GTO decision to be made here, but this time he won’t be making it. But then, turns out this time=every time

The weird thing is, when DN was in the later stages of his HU match with Doug, Doug acknowledged there was a point when DN was actually playing well, it’s just it came too late in the challenge. So I honestly think the guy does get this stuff, but he doesn’t ever seem to use it

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06-17-2024 , 01:33 PM

#9403

SandraXII

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‘I’m so good at this game, it’s stupid, yo’

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06-17-2024 , 03:04 PM

#9404

damian^

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Join Date: Apr 2023 Posts: 508

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Originally Posted by SandraXII

you honestly think that or perhaps the more logical thing to think would be that some hands he plays like a solver and others he doesnt (just about everyone does that, the difference between a good reg doing this and a bad recreational doing it is the good reg KNOWS when he's playing close to optimal)

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06-17-2024 , 03:32 PM

#9405

cringeanu

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Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 22

again out of the tournament by playing too passive. And after that typical rant how his opponent played **** and hes so good at this game its stupid

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06-17-2024 , 04:33 PM

#9406

answer20

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Oh boy .. he won a hand with an 8-high flush .. then misses out on the POY jump (frinkin' gutter).

Why does he have two basketball hoops facing different directions? Maybe one in front of the garage too? GL

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06-17-2024 , 05:18 PM

#9407

TheFly

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Originally Posted by answer20

I think it’s his neighbors basketball hoop.

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06-18-2024 , 07:34 AM

#9408

NWAF99

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 319

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Originally Posted by answer20

Simply need to tank jam that river and would’ve made the POY points jump. Shows he never for once thought he was behind

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06-18-2024 , 11:34 AM

#9409

LimpDitka

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Negreanu was one of the first players to bust the $10k HORSE event. I don't care how unlucky you run ... if you are supposedly one of the best at every game I don't see how you can bust a limit event within a couple levels.

He's just completely off his game, only way to salvage the series is a big score at the 100k or 250k or win a bracelet.

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06-18-2024 , 01:10 PM

#9410

ledn

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He had 40k off of 60k on the last break of the night then lost most of that in a huge Stud pot vs an aggro guy who made his draw on 7th street v Dneg's trips and then had one bet left which he lost to the same guy a few hands later.

Maybe better players have more chips at that moment and could come back, but its hard to win when you get rivered in a ~14 big bet pot at 5k limits.

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06-18-2024 , 02:06 PM

#9411

Mixedgamelover

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Originally Posted by LimpDitka

He's just no where near good enough at games outside of NL.

For the rest of the year most of the field in something like HORSE are out grinding the cash streets on a daily basis in some variant or another.

Dnegs sits at home all year and plays a FEW NL tourneys at pokergo.

Even the NL guys are at Triton all year round playing to a much higher level than pokergo studios.

He may have been alrite at one time, but those times are clearly over. If you don't put in the reps you will get left behind.

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06-19-2024 , 01:39 AM

#9412

deuceblocker

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Originally Posted by LimpDitka

Out early in the 100K NLHE.

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06-19-2024 , 02:34 AM

#9413

feel wrath

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 32,230

I’m not a vlog watcher - how downhearted is he getting about his results?

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06-19-2024 , 03:00 AM

#9414

iwasbanned

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Originally Posted by deuceblocker

Out early in the 100K NLHE.

Entered and reentered.
Two bullets.
That's the Daniel we've come to know and love.

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06-19-2024 , 03:42 AM

#9415

Wilbury Twist

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Originally Posted by feel wrath

I’m not a vlog watcher - how downhearted is he getting about his results?

I'll assume you're also not a previous vlog watcher, either. We've seen multiple years during which he gets stuck seven figures at the WSOP, yet he continually tells the audience how well he's playing and how good he feels about his game. This is certainly no different.

Even the two bullets that iwasbanned mentioned above would elicit a "Y'all don't understand, it's still just two buy-ins, no different than if I did it in the $300 Gladiators" response.

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06-19-2024 , 03:46 AM

#9416

deuceblocker

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More bad luck. He ran A9s into AA.

Last edited by deuceblocker; 06-19-2024 at 04:03 AM.

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06-19-2024 , 04:02 AM

#9417

deuceblocker

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More bad luck. He ran A9s into AA.

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06-19-2024 , 04:10 AM

#9418

urbanwaste

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Spoiler for the next vlog:

'Oh I ran into aces twice, can you believe it? Twice!!!!!!!11111ONEONEONE'

'No stress it is the 10k razz tomorrow and we are a tier 1 razz player and it is one of my favourite games'

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06-19-2024 , 06:02 AM

#9419

theporkchop

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Daniel played like **** got mocked won a flip jammed into aces rebought and then blew up 20 bigs with nut flush draw and a gutter on the turn vs a guy shoving in a 3 way pot

should be a fun shitshow of a video

also wouldnt be shocked if daniel jumps into the 3k nl freeze before jumping into Razz because of structures

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06-19-2024 , 06:53 AM

#9420

smd173

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This years tilt began when the guy called with 10s vs his AK deep in the 500 tourney.

It grew when he oopsied the 53-1 fold.

It grew again when Nick won the 99 v QQ hand and then Nick went on to win the bracelet.

Now it’s starting to boil with every little beat. The set of 9s losing to the straight.

Now he’s dusted 2 bullets in the 100k.

It will be 2 more bullets in the 250k.

He will be on selfie stick # 2 by the weekend.

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06-19-2024 , 09:00 AM

#9421

borg23

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Originally Posted by smd173

He also check rasied and called a flop re-raise
On

A35 two clubs with a7qq nut flush draw in a heads up pot where he was a blind vs the button open

Putting in about 90 percent of his stack then folding getting almost 20-1 when the 3 paired the turn.

Bc surely if his opponent had a wheel he'd just check the turn behind
Or maybe even just take his cards and throw them in the garbage once the board pairs

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06-19-2024 , 11:18 AM

#9422

LimpDitka

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Originally Posted by smd173

This is all spot on. It's really wild how it seems to snowball out of control for him year after year. He's playing worse and worse as the series goes on. Feels like his only hope is winning some 50/50 spots in the $250k and binking it. Or binking some low buy in tournament/online event that has unlimited rebuys. Maybe the flip and go tourney ?

I really want to see him get a bracelet but dont see it happening . He had the skill, I just think it's turned into a combination of him being too rich to care and too stubborn to study /learn.

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06-19-2024 , 11:58 AM

#9423

borg23

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Originally Posted by LimpDitka

This is all spot on. It's really wild how it seems to snowball out of control for him year after year. He's playing worse and worse as the series goes on. Feels like his only hope is winning some 50/50 spots in the $250k and binking it. Or binking some low buy in tournament/online event that has unlimited rebuys. Maybe the flip and go tourney ?

I really want to see him get a bracelet but dont see it happening . He had the skill, I just think it's turned into a combination of him being too rich to care and too stubborn to study /learn.

yep. and hearing him cry about his "bad luck" is pretty intolerable. guy has run top 99.99999 percent in poker and can't handle losing a few flips.
i'll give him credit for staying marketable. but a lot of that stemmed from being in the right place at the right time initially.if he binked a few tournaments 5 years later instead he'd be just another guy.

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06-19-2024 , 12:14 PM

#9424

deuceblocker

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I suspect GG pays his buyins or part of them. They want him playing all these events. That may be partly why plays high rollers for 2 bullets, etc.

He seems to be playing sloppy. Wtf with twice folding a pair getting huge odds in PLO and limit Omaha high.

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06-19-2024 , 12:26 PM

#9425

LimpDitka

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Quote:

Originally Posted by borg23

Yep. Theres definitely a lot to dislike about him, but you can't help but root for him. You can tell how much a bracelet would mean to him even with all of the money and fame he already has.

And he's a great ambassador for the game. He could have easily took his money, early success and walked off into the sunset , instead he continues to grind ,vlog for all of us to see , and interact with fans and sign autographs.

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