I'm not sure you know that. He gets invited into the largest games pros aren't typically invited to-nor can they afford honestly- It's impossible to verify how much a few billionaires dump off when they get together for home games but I imagine it's a lot. 10,000/25,000 nl the money adds up quick... Also the level of play would be significantly bellow the high stakes play most everywhere else so it's not hard to imagine someone mildly competent cleaning up

not to mention all the untracked euro site money

I'm not sure you know that either.

I don't know what? That he is friends with and plays poker with billionaires? Yaaa i do

Not doubting you know the guy, not sure why you singled out that point when you knowing Dan wasn't even in the text I quoted. I am actually agreeing with much of what you say. It's impossible to verify how much billionaires or dan win or lose just like you said if these games take place. I will say it is surprising that these games are kept so hush hush, not an easy thing to do. Also if someone is a huge net winner like Dan implies why does he keep getting invites? They don't let pros play because they can beat the game so why let Dan continue to play? This billionaire poker circle does not appear to be his peer group, he tweets and instagrams constantly and he doesn't show himself partying with billionaires often if at all. So if he is funding his extremely high flying lifestyle through his poker winnings why would they continue to let him play?

Not hating on the guy at all, he chooses to live his life the way he does. Hell it's great for the economy and no one can say exactly what they would do in his situation. I don't agree with some of his actions like his beating up prostitutes but who cares. None of us are even close to perfect . One thing that impresses me about the guy is how he keeps himself in such great shape despite all the excess and access around him. It shows he has discipline and that's a quality many trust fund kids, especially major trust funds, don't possess.

I believe people were posting that he was the source for many of the news stories about the celebrity poker games that he played in in LA, and that many people didn't mind because he was a good spot at that game.

Now, that is obviously pure speculation from forum posters, but it probably means as much as the speculation in your post or others (on both sides of this).

But if that's what you use as evidence of how much this guy is up or down, I think this "evidence" exists on both sides of it.

On that note, I think this thread will be used as a social experiment in like 50 years. About the type of person that really hates or really loves this Blizerian guy. I can go to the gun range, drive really expensive cards (albeit rent), hire strippers and all sorts of stuff, but I can't recreate some of the awesome and hilarious replies in this thread defending him like a brother or attacking him like the devil, five stars.

the guy definitely has money not from poker and may or may not be up from poker, but he is an awesome follow on twitter and provides me entertainment even if it is in an envious way, and im fairly sure he is never the guy that doesnt throw his share of the bill.

How can anyone hate someone like that?

Fair. I sort of followed this logic.

1) While not world class or even a solid mid stakes poker skills...I believe Dan against rec players is a winning player.
2) Extremely rich people tend to be meh poker players. No explanation necessary. Games can form around a single rich guy. The richer the benefactor is the more this is true.
3) He hangs out with them more then it might appear. If you are a rich douche you tend to not mind partying with Bliz's dime escort train. You just don't want your picture being taken the whole time.

There is no doubt the guy has serious insecurity issues... and that he wouldn't be anywhere close to where he is if it wasn't for a trust fund check every quarter or whatever.

It is conceivable that a billionaire in LA would be willing to play him and dump a few hundred thousand if for no other reason he looks like he's probably fun to party with (questionable morals when it comes to hookers/drugs/ect). I imagine he can beat them.

Very well put slippery I see where you got your handle. I have lived in affluent LA communities virtually my entire life and everything you say is very possible. No sarcasm intended at all when I say if Dan needs a publicist he should call you.

he obv plugs his poker ability all the time to shy attention away from the fact that he is a trust fund baby, clear self esteem and image obsession issues with this guy.

I wasn't even saying that I think he is FOS. I was really just simply saying that in my skimming of articles about him and threads here, I would expect more people to be questioning the legitimacy of his claims.

Now, of course, I do believe that he is FOS but that wasn't my point. I think people just love the idea of billionaire fish getting run over by playboy G.I. Joe. It's fun fantasy that seems to be an easy sell among a sometimes skeptical crowd.

I read a story about him going broke and having to sell his guns and how he's been focused ever since. It didn't seemed to mention when the trust fund payments kicked in or what role that played in supporting his lifestyle. Are we to believe he grinded a few k into playing billionaires for lambos? Bc I think that is the intended take away. Color me dubious.

Either way his instagram is fun, and I would definitely not turn down a Bilzerian fantasy weekend.

Because he's a fun guy, probably parties his ass off while there, gives action in the game and brings a ****load of hot women with him?

Seems absolutely to be a fun guy and as far as partying goes he probably is a gold medal winner for sure. The hot girls part is not much of a consideration. Billions don't have a problem with access to an endless sea of beautiful women. Do you think (or know) he gives action in these games? I doubt many billionaires playing together are nitting it up but who knows.

Looking at an Oz paper on-line and came across this:

http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and...324-35e79.html

LOLZ

interview with dan. episode 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wAB11GndpY

He looks like Buzz Lightyear.

Brought up great point about the industry of poker looking for someone to get excited about away from the table. I think the more exposure for Dan on all the different mainstream websites that have been writing about him could be a really good thing for poker if bro's are taking it as "this could be my life if i get good at poker." I would imagine alot of people have already started playing poker after reading about him. It seems as if most of the stuff I have been reading lately is making it come off that he made all of his money from poker

I really like the idea as well for doing a series like this with Dan and others that are interesting in poker. Hopefully they put out some more content

^ agreed

yup. too many people underestimate the effect recreational players perception of the game have on the game itself.

disagree with/hate on the guy as much as you want but guys like him are objectively good for the game.

Time for a new podcast imo, best on one of his yachts...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wAB...ature=youtu.be

^ really?!

How on earth can you gauge that after an Instagram and some interviews? Like seriously, you must be the greatest psychologist of all time.

Was a good watch, thought he came across as a cool guy, pretty down to earth too.

+1

ops, my bad

It's not that hard to figure out that he has some serious self esteem issues. Usually the people who seek the most attention or make the most noise do it for validation bc they aren't truly confident or secure. It's like a guy who likes to talk about how cool/tough/rich he is vs the guy who lets you figure out how much of a boss he is. Quiet confidence is always going to win over more people than being a flashy dbag.

Compare Terrell Owens to Michael Jordan. One was insecure and had to tell everyone he was great while the other knew he was great but had other people say how great he was. Kind of like Bilzerean vs Ivey. One is respected by everyone the other is envied/admired but doesn't have that level of respect.