nor should they

So based on the convention cancellations freeing up space, it is very likely they just push it back a month or 2.

Obviously pending how bad things get the next few weeks +.

lets say they push it back til Sept.

Will getting dealers lined up be easy (many will be looking at getting back to work), or hard (some moved on , others don't want to risk a virus flare at event)

seems that getting dealers and rest of floor staff lined up is biggest challenge in rescheduling.

it will be somewhat harder but i'm guessing you could anticipate smaller fields as well and need less dealers.

a lot of the wsop dealers work at other vegas casinos and work 2 jobs during wsop. my guess is pretty much all of these dealers would work both jobs as usual, especially after losing most if not all of their income during casino shut downs.

you have some rio only dealers who have basically never dealt poker before and are terrible. my guess is you still get most of these as if this job is better than their normal job/no job in june it would still be better in september. especially with a lot of people out of work.
what could become an issue with this however is time needed to train them. you might not be able to train them with corona still going around, and then have enough time once it passes to train them before the wsop would start.

then you get traveling dealers. i know a few for example who would work the wsop at rio, and then deal wpts at borgata in September and january as well as other wpts. i'm sure you would lose some of these to the wpts but for some wsop still could make more sense.

keep in mind a lot more people will be out of work including mediocre busto poker pros who had nothing saved and weren't paying taxes so they can't get anything from the gov't.a lot of these guys will try playing online and they're going to get crushed (of course some will succeed.) this will give the rio more people to draw from.

They need to delay to 2021 at the earliest or more likely just cancel. Is there anyone who really thinks this whole thing will be solved in 2 months so that it will be okay for gatherings of tens of thousands of people from all over the world to be held?

are there any CZR, Vegas or Circuit dealers ITT.

Have WSOP folks communicated anything to you other than what they tweeted to public?

This is pretty much standard course-wear in engineering schools as well (at least it was when I was in engineering school). Not a fun topic, but obviously vital to a functioning society.

There are only some here and elsewhere who deal in terms that involve the "end of the world". Of course the failure to hold the WSOP would not be the end of the world. But it would be a big hit to the poker economy and the local economy for people directly effected. It would also be a big hit to the WSOP which till now has been one of the few successful properties of Caesars.

I don't really know what the net effect of "skipping" a year would mean long-term. But that doesn't mean it would be insignificant. I have always felt like the existence of live poker within the casino environment was a bit tenuous to begin with. Case-in-point... long before anyone heard of COVID-19 shutdowns, the Boston Encore property cancelled all of its highly popular and successful weekend tournaments due to "parking concerns". This was a property struggling for business, mind you. That ought to tell you where poker stands in the world of casino management.

I doubt January is possible. CES and other big conventions eat up rooms. I feel like somewhere in fall (Sep through Oct) might be possible.There are some who do not like that due to less travel flexibility (family, school, etc), but it would have its advantages.

No, because July is one of the slowest months of the year for conventions. Summer has actually picked up in recent years to vacationers, but Vegas is really a relative ghost town in summer compared to Jan-April. Remember the WSOP is 6 weeks long. That's a very long time to occupy space.

IMO lots of dealers will be looking to get back to work. Remember poker has basically stopped everywhere... not just the WSOP. If I were a dealer over a certain age or with any health problems I would definitely not be looking to get back to work until a vaccine is available. So we would likely be looking at some dealer shortages and/or having to accept less-experienced dealers.

I honestly do not believe weather in Las Vegas sucks at that time of the year. I offered the three Texas locales based upon 1) having homes in two of them and 2) offering frames of reference for others outside of the State.

The biggest problem I run into in Las Vegas during the summer months is the incessant desire of so many businesses to set the A/C lower than 75 degrees. It should NEVER be so chilly in a building that people need to wear jackets or coats in order to stay warm...

Depends on what you mean by solved. And what you mean by solved may not be relevant. What is relevant is what the government thinks "solved" looks like, and what companies think "solved" looks like. If people think that life is going to remain at a stand-still till the last person is infected or dies from COVID-19, then they are living in a fantasy land. There will be a point, and it may be sooner than many expect, when government and private industry responses to this look very different than they do at this moment. And given what we have learned about the virus in all this time, there's no reason to believe those responses would be any less effective overall at mitigating the health toll of the pandemic AND the economic toll. In the long run, these two things MUST be considered together.

Beyond that, if and when events are held again, you will have a choice to participate, or not.

we have very different temperature preferences.
under 75 is great. lol@ putting on a coat bc it's under 75.

i laugh when i got to vegas in december walking wearing a light hoody at most, seeing people dressed like eskimos. of course i'm sure you'd laugh at me for thinking it's hot as hell when it's 117 degrees in vegas.

i'm sure i would like the places in texas that you mentioned even less than vegas in july.

738 deaths in Spain recorded over the past 24 hours.

Schools out for summer but WSOP ain't happening kids.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-across-globe

Seth Palansky reminds me of the IOC who up till a few days ago was acting like the Olympics were going to be held this Summer or just delayed a few months. The US is going to restrict passengers from many countries for a long time. And visa versa many countries will ban US passengers. This takes most foreign players out of play for any delayed World Series. You also would be importing dealers from throughout the country. All you would need is one infected dealer while the tournament was going on to shut down the entire tournament. You would have to worry how many players and dealers would be infected. It's just simply crazy as I have stated in my previous post. The most unique thing about this virus is it's incubation period. Even when the curve is flattened it just takes one contagious asymptomatic individual to wreck havoc on thousands of people by just spreading it to a few and have it expand from there.

The convention business in Las Vegas is dead. Can you imagine CES in January. I used to go every year. 150,000 attendees from all over the world setting up booths where attendees touch and examine the latest electronics from the newest 8K TV's, cell phones and health gadgets. I would take the monorail in from the Paris Hotel. The monorail was packed with conventioneers. You literally have to wedge yourself in once your on the convention floor to view close up the many items. It is the signature Las Vegas convention event and I don't think there any chance of being held next January. It is not only in the heart of the Influenza season it is also when Corona would ramp up again as it is the middle of Winter in the United States.

Regardless of whether your local barber shop opens or people go back to work at the office, the notion of thousands of people from all over the globe travelling in planes to las vegas, to pack into a conference center, around tables one foot from one another, and all handle the same chips and cards, then all fly back to their respective countries, is one that no one sane will consider a good idea in two and a bit months.

Even when the most draconean provisions ease, most places are going to be very down on travel and very up on voluntary social distance until there is a lot more immunity or a vaccine.

The foreign nations that even let citizens travel for leisure again will have them notified of isolation periods (and depending on the state of scaling up testing, even asymptomatic testing) on their return. Because even the places who get this "under control" will be susceptible to another hit.

compelling argument.

also, I hadn't thought of part in bold. but yeah that would be a cluster.


in somewhat related news. Native Tribe/Casino in Oklahoma sued its insurance company (LLoyds / AIG) asserting business losses are covered. Evidently some business interupt/all risk policies specifically exclude Pandemics, some are ambigous. This will be a mess across many industries and could bury some commercial insurance companies if cases go against them.

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSL1N2BH1SQ

I feel like this sort of analysis is based on what things have been like thus far. I agree, if things 3 months from now, or 6 months from now, are similar to how they have been over course of the first couple months of this event, then yes, these sorts of gatherings are not likely. But we are learning more and more about the spread, effects and treatment of this virus every day. I find it hard to believe that circumstances 2 months, 3 months+, etc will be the same as they are now.

But like everyone else, that is just my prediction. Reality will be what it will be.

Money, of course. Why would they want to throw that money away?

They'll all have been out of work for some time; I don't think it will be that difficult. Of course that does depend on how much worse this gets.

I have to assume you mean in its regular form, in which case I'd ask - why does it have to be that way? Why wouldn't they just adjust it to fit the situation? Maybe it has to be in November. Maybe it will only be 1,000 people. And if things go very poorly, perhaps even that won't be possible, and they'll decide to outright cancel. But to suggest now that it can't happen even in a greatly altered form would be silly IMO.

Well sure, if you live in a place that's even worse than Vegas in the summer, you're going to like it. Most of us don't live in places like that, and many of us will therefore think Vegas in the summer sucks. Because it does.

This isn't even the case today. People (even those with symptoms) are getting tested positive all over the place in government, but government is not being shut down. The effected individuals are removed, the risk to others is assessed and life goes on. And that's today, at a time when we are still in the ramp-up phase of the effects of the pandemic in the US, at a time when we are only starting to get our act together regarding testing, and we are nowhere near where we'll be from a treatment standpoint months from now.

Okay, lets solve the OP's question once and for all here and now. Here is how to know if the WSOP 2020 will be postponed or not.

IF the churches overall in the US are packed when Easter arrives (as per Donald Dump's wish) and Sheldy reopens his Macua casino by then too, then WSOP 2020 will go on as scheduled.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I really don't like looking at the numbers but
USA seems to be doing fine so far dealing with the infected people. Italy is shipping out patients now for hospitalizations to Berlin and other parts of Germany taking patients. So infected cases can be transported to different hospitals.

Are you guys still baffled by the numbers? I don't buy that argument in Italy and Spain only olds or at risk people were affected. Italy never recovered from the financial crisis of 2008 I and I think Spain is the same. Germany on the other hand did the best of all European states. Amy ideas? Better equipment more beds? But capacity can not be the reason since patients can be transported.

No, not still baffled because I never was, and I don't think many people in the thread ever were. First of all, it's pretty early to make a big deal out of any of these numbers. I know you're proud of Germany's numbers, for example, but..."did the best"? This is far from over.

It's fairly well known that Italian hospitals were overwhelmed by the number of cases they received, so a much higher fatality rate should be expected. Every country is different in so many ways, I'd expect a lot of variation, and a few days difference in the timeline can be significant this early, so numbers aren't always that comparable.

Cliffs: Of course we'll continue to speculate, but true in-depth study and understanding won't come for quite a while.

Is it better to just go and get sick now while treatment in hospitals is still available, or wait until the staff gets practice and maybe a treatment? I'm convinced most people will be infected at some point, since this virus seems to spread easily.