Dentalle is just bad at math. Poor guy did an equity chop on 6,000 dollar pot at 40 percent and felt he only owed guy 500 dollars. He was being backed by Frankie Flowers who was banned for life from foxwoods for choking someone. Frankie later got reinstated.

sounds like he goes full ****** a lot.

Stay off the roids brah, they turned your brain into chicken soup.

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You need to listen to the podcast with Dentale and Wheeler calling into the show. You can get more of a general perspective as to who is telling the truth by listening to what the both of them have to say. I came to the conclusion that both of them were not being 100% honest. Sounds as though a plan might have been hatched to get the girl into the satty without creating attention and being as discreet about it as possible. The plan might have backfired when Wheeler and his buddy caught on to Dentale fold and the fact that he forgot when dealer asked if he remembered his hand. . I could be dead wrong but that was the impression i got after listening to the show even though Dentale denied all wrongdoing. You could swear to this and swear to that but the more he rambles on , it sounds like someone got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Jason Wheeler could have told a convincing story if he didnt cover up the fact that he cursed at Dentale. I highly doubt Dentale made up the fact that Wheeler provoked the confrontation

Where is Frankie these days anyway? Another good and classy guy!

Yup, Wheeler got caught in a huge lie and when called out there was a nice period of silence.

He was trying to paint a picture that didn't exist

OP said he did react after Dentale started talking about his family, he said he didn't react at first, Dentale said he did, OP said it's on video, Dentale went quiet.

You sound just like Dentale.

Either you're a half decent troll, or just one of them guys who want to believe something else just to be different, or you like the attention.

FYP

Also this is NVG, so it's likely all 3.

The act of Lily going all in with the 1k is not collusion. She would have done that regardless.

I'd say decent, because he is annoying.

But +1 on prob all 3

Did you actually see the post I quoted?

I do now, looks like you didn't need the simple explanation.

But you should never try and get inside the mind of a flea. Nothing to gain from that imo. Just explain why they are wrong and move on

The best part of the podcast in my opinion is when Dentale says he would never engage in physical violence at the table but instead hit them where it really hurts by attacking their physical appearance . I have to admit it will work against a younger individual but against an older person they could care less, because their physical attraction to the opposite sex went down the toilet after they reach a certain age (55 and over) anyway

Gimme more than 1 day to respond to your initial question maybe?

I don't understand this one bit. This guy uses intimidation to get away with whatever he wants all the time. He goes way too far and finally there are 2 ppl willing to stand up to him by sharing the truth and explaining the facts, but now it's "why are you giving her a pass?"

Literally can't win, either you're saying too much or not enough.

Everyone needs to understand how impossible it is to PROVE what you are all speculating. There is no recording of a conversation between the 2 of them or anything of the sort.

I haven't made 1 accusation of collusion or cheating towards ANYONE.

When Mike decided to lie about certain details and certain facts were being left out I decided to call in/post. All we can do is provide all the facts about what happened and let this play out.

At the end of the day, it's Mike's unbelievable reaction and behavior at the table that can be looked at and judged by the powers that be. Not what you're all accusing him of, as unfortunate as that may seem.

6 ppl at the table outside of Mike & Lilly & 2 of us have been willing to share details and interact with you all for the sake of shining a light on this nonsense and hopefully further prepare ppl for this kind of situation going forward.

I'm not sitting here begging for a TY, but to constantly read things like this is ridiculous. You can't lay out all the facts for everyone to see in a situation like this and only implicate 1 person. It's either both or none, OBVIOUSLY.

All the vitriol is due to his ridiculous behavior and childlike attacks. Throughout the entire episode, Lily only sat there and played poker.

Speculate all you want, it's the facts that matter most.

Muk can you give a bit more details about the kq and 44 hands you mentioned he defended on the podcast?

I think it's more damning if he claims he's on autofold and that's why he folds the a4 but if those hands are recent that's the best evidence he's guilty of soft playing

Hey man thanks for your time, and for sharing information.

It's Friday, have a good one.

Hate to quote a giant wall of text but you are wrong because the old guy asked her stack size right after the break.

understood that the sequela was unacceptable, but what his initial motivation? how would he benefit from folding? he must have known his chip stack was not inpenetrable

Hey Muk you handled yourself exceptionally well on the podcast with Tuch especially when Dentale was trying to bait you and get you off topic.

Just wanted to say thanks for bringing this to light. I think people will be much more aware of the "shenanigans" that take place in satty's and certain people to be aware of like Dentale.

Steroids are Baaaaaad, not a good look for a soon to be 50 year old.

The details are exactly as I said in the podcast. I don't remember the KQ hand extremely well but I definitely remember his small pair hand (I say small pair bc I thought it was 44, but Nipun Java who played the hand with Mike said it was 55.) I remember him folding KQ face up after missing a flop shortly before the 55 hand, I believe it was KsQs or KsQc, he defended against a MP open and folded face up on the flop after he bricked. Would be willing to bet a lot of money this hand took place and is on security footage.

The A6hh>55 hand I am absolutely positive went down within an orbit or 2 of the break that preceded the episode. Nipun Java opened MP, Mike defended. We are 10 handed. Flop came three middling cards, I believe 986 with a suit. Turn and river brought 2 bways, I believe T, K & not a single bet was made postflop. After the river, Nipun showed A6hh and Dentale felt the need to show us how unlucky he got by showing 44 or 55. I thought it was 44 originally but Nipun played the hand and is confident it was 55. Saw the hand face up, 1000% on the security footage if looked at

Oh, ok. Im wrong because you assume Mike was paying attention and heard this happen? LOL. All the evidence points to Mike being OBLIVIOUS to EVERYTHING happening at the table. There was an old guy in seat one who even vouched for Mike never looking at her stack. All he heard was "Lilys all in? Ok . FOLD!"......Had he KNOWN that she was all in for less, there is NO WAY he tries to fold. He's not that dumb. He was obviously unaware of stack sizes and the situation and he thought "slow play my boys girl" was still in effect. Why else would he make the one move that makes it look like absolute cheating?

A whole wall of text of my theory and you claim I'm wrong because you KNOW mike was fully aware of everything. Even when OP, Muk and Mike all state Mike was drunk as balls.

Mike spent the whole break discussing his bi's and tri's routines. She was quite fascinated.

he claims he was drunk and dominated the conversation during break. which is basically the only believable thing he's said the whole time, given the way he handled himself on twitch (and in general)