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12-02-2022 , 11:37 AM
Rampage was in his rights to threaten copyright strike against FE, but it also makes him look like an absolute a-hole with a stick up his butt. Coming into money sure does reveal a lot about a person. Ironic since I doubt rampage makes all that much from youtube. He probably makes most of his money off the illegal online private games taking a rake. If I was him I wouldn’t be drawing attention to myself and making enemies.
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12-02-2022 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Rampage was in his rights to threaten copyright strike against FE, but it also makes him look like an absolute a-hole with a stick up his butt. Coming into money sure does reveal a lot about a person. Ironic since I doubt rampage makes all that much from youtube. He probably makes most of his money off the illegal online private games taking a rake. If I was him I wouldn’t be drawing attention to myself and making enemies.

He shared awhile back that his Youtube revenue was $180,000 in a year (think this was when he was around 100k subscribers?) Definitely not enough for him to be playing the big stakes he's been playing.
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12-02-2022 , 02:41 PM
I'm not a Rampage fan boi but FE should have contacted Rampage before using his content. It's common courtesy and also good business practice. If your business is based around creating content on YouTube, the last thing you need is a copyright strike or threat of a copyright strike. It's a big headache.

FE should follow Jonathan Little's example. Using other people's vlog content WITH their permission and then giving a shoutout to the vlogger in the video and putting a link to their channel in the description of the video. It's win-win. Everyone is happy and you have written permission to use their content.
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12-02-2022 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MrCrown
I'm not a Rampage fan boi but FE should have contacted Rampage before using his content. It's common courtesy and also good business practice. If your business is based around creating content on YouTube, the last thing you need is a copyright strike or threat of a copyright strike. It's a big headache.

FE should follow Jonathan Little's example. Using other people's vlog content WITH their permission and then giving a shoutout to the vlogger in the video and putting a link to their channel in the description of the video. It's win-win. Everyone is happy and you have written permission to use their content.
I'm not a FE fan boi but Rampage should have not filed an illegitimate strike. Its just a douche move

Rampage should follow the example of most reasonable people which is to not be a douche and file frivolous strikes and go about his day as this doesn't affect him in the slightest outside of potentially giving his channel exposure
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12-08-2022 , 02:31 AM
The educational Youtube channel Finding Equilibrium claims that the famous vlogger and tournament wizard Rampage Poker threatened him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArUa...ingEquilibrium

IMO, they should settle it on the green felt.
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12-08-2022 , 02:59 AM
Good video, he fkn nailed it.
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12-08-2022 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
IMO, they should settle it on the green felt.
Apparently FindingEQ is worth more time to rampage than rampage is to findingEQ.
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12-08-2022 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerEthics
I know some club owners who didn’t have btc as a withdrawal option only as a deposit option.. they were even willing to cover the fees from btc deposits.

So I’m guessing they’re taking it on the chin now
International players who can only use crypto/btc as a deposit option often win in these games vs. US playing pool so most clubs have more demand and outflow of crypto/btc is my understanding. Obviously possible some were overexposed though for sure.
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12-08-2022 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Is there not a rake cap on the site? Because if there is, I believe this would lead to lower rake generation.
There's a rake cap on almost all of these apps other than Pokerrr2 from my understanding which often is uncapped crazily enough.
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12-08-2022 , 05:12 AM
they should fight in the ring.
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12-08-2022 , 10:34 AM
What's funny is Rampage in this recent video from The Encore in Boston begs them to not take down his video (because they don't permit filming and he's doing it on the sly without permission) and then also goes on to complain about their high rake (and I doubt the club he's making his real money off of charges reasonable rake amounts)

The hypocrisy is real

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12-08-2022 , 03:10 PM
Already discussed in the Rampage thread https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=155
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12-08-2022 , 03:22 PM
not really sure how Rampage became popular, Finding Equilibrium is solid
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12-08-2022 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PZ2
What was the original finding equilibrium video? Was it making fun or rampage or something?
It was his standard style of video. He took one hand from one of Rampage's vlogs and provided GTO analysis using is GTOx software. Perhaps he was critical of his play.

The follow up video was trolling


Definitely a frivolous copyright threat. Taking ~1min of someones footage and turning it into a 10-15min video makes it transformative and falls clearly under fair use. It would have been a friendly courtesy to ask permission first but not a legal requirement.
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12-08-2022 , 03:40 PM
Problem is it’s more trouble contesting than it’s worth, so these types of frivolous copyright strikes can be very difficult for a small channel to contest.
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12-08-2022 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMiragi
not really sure how Rampage became popular, Finding Equilibrium is solid
started a youtube channel and binked some mtts
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12-12-2022 , 08:37 AM
So here's Mariano at 1 minute of the video below, casually promoting a $1/$2 Meetup game "on the virtual felt" on ClubGG, in which he will be playing on December 19th.
"Link is in the description box", "signing up is pretty easy", he goes on to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cwGqFa0AIE

The link he gives under the video is his ClubGG telegram channel, which currently has 2671 subscribers. https://t.me/joinchat/ZiDijWgOfE9kOTg5

The video is about his biggest ever win $100,000+ in two HCL sessions, and so far has 123K views.

So again, it looks like we have a friendly faced (all an act IMO) poker vlogger luring his audience into, at best a gray area, legality wise, online poker game/platform, at worst an illegal gambling operation where some, many, or even all participants might be breaking one or more of, gambling laws, wire act laws and money laundering laws, and where it is 100% certain that the ClubGG app is being used against ClubGG's own rules (and the app provider's rules, Pocket Fives).

This is unless you believe that Mariano is inviting his viewers into a play money game and that he has gained 2671 subscribers on his ClubGG telegram channel for that sole purpose.

Add to this, high rake, the increased chances of collusion, card sharing and RTA (compared to a licensed poker site), plus the fact that you are entrusting your deposit money with the agent that you send it to, and my conclusion is that Mariano (unless the games are 100% play money), is one giant fake of a person, who is happily exploiting his own viewers, and potentially putting them in financial and/or legal harm's way, for his own financial benefit.

He's definitely a very good player, however, on the balance of evidence, he has short-cut his way up the stakes by exploiting and deceiving his audience. The deception part, in the main is by the massive omissions of information about what this $1/$2 "Meetup game on the virtual felt" is really intended to produce for him, Mariano.

Last edited by PokerPlayingDunces; 12-12-2022 at 08:44 AM. Reason: Grammatical corrections
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12-12-2022 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingDunces
So here's Mariano at 1 minute of the video below, casually promoting a $1/$2 Meetup game "on the virtual felt" on ClubGG, in which he will be playing on December 19th.
"Link is in the description box", "signing up is pretty easy", he goes on to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cwGqFa0AIE

The link he gives under the video is his ClubGG telegram channel, which currently has 2671 subscribers. https://t.me/joinchat/ZiDijWgOfE9kOTg5

The video is about his biggest ever win $100,000+ in two HCL sessions, and so far has 123K views.

So again, it looks like we have a friendly faced (all an act IMO) poker vlogger luring his audience into, at best a gray area, legality wise, online poker game/platform, at worst an illegal gambling operation where some, many, or even all participants might be breaking one or more of, gambling laws, wire act laws and money laundering laws, and where it is 100% certain that the ClubGG app is being used against ClubGG's own rules (and the app provider's rules, Pocket Fives).

This is unless you believe that Mariano is inviting his viewers into a play money game and that he has gained 2671 subscribers on his ClubGG telegram channel for that sole purpose.

Add to this, high rake, the increased chances of collusion, card sharing and RTA (compared to a licensed poker site), plus the fact that you are entrusting your deposit money with the agent that you send it to, and my conclusion is that Mariano (unless the games are 100% play money), is one giant fake of a person, who is happily exploiting his own viewers, and potentially putting them in financial and/or legal harm's way, for his own financial benefit.

He's definitely a very good player, however, on the balance of evidence, he has short-cut his way up the stakes by exploiting and deceiving his audience. The deception part, in the main is by the massive omissions of information about what this $1/$2 "Meetup game on the virtual felt" is really intended to produce for him, Mariano.
- See Merriam Websters definition of "Entrepreneur"
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12-12-2022 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
- See Merriam Websters definition of "Entrepreneur"
Just did.....

entrepreneur
/ˌɒntrəprəˈnəː/
noun
a person who sets up a business or businesses, taking on financial risks in the hope of profit.

Well if he's an agent for a real money game, that is being played on a play money app, and is acting as a money conduit for it, and is earning rake, plus possibly is getting the utility of the money sent to or via him, then he hasn't set up a business taking on financial risks in the hope of profit, he has set up a business with no financial risk, that has a guaranteed profit.

The risk he is taking, if these are real money games, is a big legal risk.

A big legal risk isn't mentioned anywhere in the definition of an entrepreneur.

The words we might be looking for are:

hustler
/ˈhʌslə/

a person adept at aggressive selling or illicit dealing.
"small-time hustlers trying to sell their stuff"

&

grifter
/ˈɡrɪftə/
a person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling.
"I saw him as a grifter who preys upon people"

It is not exactly either of these words, so a new word is needed for the 21st century internet/online age, to describe people who devise (or copy other people's) money making schemes,
schemes which are not wholly honest, not completely transparent and which usually result in some big net negatives for the customer, the mark, but always a big net positive for the person running the scheme.

I got it.... the word is:

grustler
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12-12-2022 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingDunces
Just did.....

entrepreneur
/ˌɒntrəprəˈnəː/
noun
a person who sets up a business or businesses, taking on financial risks in the hope of profit.

Well if he's an agent for a real money game, that is being played on a play money app, and is acting as a money conduit for it, and is earning rake, plus possibly is getting the utility of the money sent to or via him, then he hasn't set up a business taking on financial risks in the hope of profit, he has set up a business with no financial risk, that has a guaranteed profit.

The risk he is taking, if these are real money games, is a big legal risk.

A big legal risk isn't mentioned anywhere in the definition of an entrepreneur.

The words we might be looking for are:

hustler
/ˈhʌslə/

a person adept at aggressive selling or illicit dealing.
"small-time hustlers trying to sell their stuff"

&

grifter
/ˈɡrɪftə/
a person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling.
"I saw him as a grifter who preys upon people"

It is not exactly either of these words, so a new word is needed for the 21st century internet/online age, to describe people who devise (or copy other people's) money making schemes,
schemes which are not wholly honest, not completely transparent and which usually result in some big net negatives for the customer, the mark, but always a big net positive for the person running the scheme.

I got it.... the word is:

grustler
I was being facetious
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12-12-2022 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TampaKn1sh
I was being facetious
Sorry, I wasn't sure if you were or not.
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12-13-2022 , 06:33 AM
Don't look now, but Rampage just won a WPT/Wynn 25k for 900 large beating KRab HU
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12-13-2022 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kerr
Don't look now, but Rampage just won a WPT/Wynn 25k for 900 large beating KRab HU
Congrats to him, his master plan has worked.

And this is great, it means that if he is an agent for unlicensed in effect real money poker, that his win and his "success" will attract even more players to sign up with him, even more people to buy pieces of his biggest tournament buy ins, and who knows, very soon he might be playing $100K comps, and in the biggest cash games on HCL and at Triton and in Macau too.

There is really no limit to what he can achieve, maybe one day he'll be the owner of GG Poker. It's probably only a matter of time before he is a sponsored pro for them, and then it's onwards and upwards. Anything, absolutely anything, is possible in life, through sheer hard work, and ermm......
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12-14-2022 , 12:41 AM
Don’t be so salty bro. The sun run is beautiful. Rampage is like the new moneymaker.
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12-14-2022 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
Don’t be so salty bro. The sun run is beautiful. Rampage is like the new moneymaker.
Not salty at all.

I have a lot of respect for players who have ground their way up the stakes in an ethical way.
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