Jeff Boski endorses this site and encourages you to sign up for it

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who?

Loncarpoker on instagram. I forget his wpn name

Actually his name is michael_loncar on instagram thought it was loncarpoker.just looked and his wpn name is ferrisbuuueller

Inb4 rep comes and says looked into and not a bot

Nah the only rep left will just say, "not my department"

Lmao I sent an email to support and they told me this wasnt their department.

Shame on all these WPN shills. Sluzinski, loncar, cannuli ect.

None of these paid shills are actually any good at poker so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they are literally just unaware of the existence of bots at basically every stake and format on the site (possibly the exception of hi-lo and stud games).

Probably a bot where the owner forgot to add the HU code. I have seen HU bots play a lot better than this.
So WPN already banned his account, but only because it was known on social media . Especially when you look at evidence like this Twitch video.

But it doesnt mean that WPN will fight bots does it? Then they need some sort of detection software, I doubt they have it.

Today I received some $ from multiple banned accounts

Looks like acr finally looking into cheating

Thank you

I sent Phil a list of about 30 bot accounts at PLO with some playing when I was playing a lot on the site. I've been told by another player that most of the accounts are gone now.


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THANK YOU

Thank you for your work, Joey!

much respect

The situation has improved over the past 2 weeks. For about 12 hrs there was actually no bots at plo100/200. Now bots have gradually been coming back, and new bots have also been showing up. Instead of 2-4 bots per 6max table there is only 1 bot per table. But there is one on almost every table at every stake all day long. Also nobody has been refunded a cent as of yet. If WPN wants to earn our trust they need to be constantly vigilant and ban these bots the second they show up. Glowworm and klarSSon are now running 8 hrs a day every day at plo100/200. None of the bots at plo400+ seem to have have been banned either and at least one bot account has now forayed into PLO3000 (CarrdSharrk).

If you want to get rid of bots that keep popping up vigilantly you're going to create many false positives, which causes threads like https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ounts-1738982/

can you post or PM the list?

Mass distributed bot profiles are not that hard to detect. Somebody like HandofGod666 can identify them very quickly. Several other people here can too. I'm not nearly as educated as some members of this forum are when it comes to math or programming, but I can pick them out pretty quickly as well. The false positives would only stem from poor detection methods and using a security team that is not educated enough on how these types of bots operate.

How do you know for a fact you and other players don't have false positives? I agree that the easy ones shouldn't give any problems even for a site like ACR but that only gets rid of so many of them and you'd still have better and more profitable ones still running.

I can't speak for other people, but they've come to the same conclusions I have. I monitor the account tendencies like seating habits, playing times and I also analyze their HUD statistics. There are sites dedicated to datamining online poker sites. You can look at significant sample sizes of hand data on any account. When over a large sample of hands these accounts all have the same tendencies and statistics you can be certain you have identified a bot. There comes a point at which the similarities between different accounts becomes too close to just be a coincidence. Real winning poker players don't exhibit the exact same tendencies and statistics that mass distributed bot profiles do.

After playing with hundreds of these accounts on different networks for years it has become easy for me to quickly identify them. I prefer to look at hand samples of 10k+ before coming to a final conclusion, but realistically I'm pretty confident I have identified a bot after a couple thousand hands in most circumstances.

I agree that customized bots are an issue as well, but that issue is massively dwarfed by the issue that is mass distributed bot profiles. Mass distributed bot profiles are taking millions of dollars out of the online poker economy, probably to the tune of 8 figures a year. The amount that customized bots are taking out of the games is significantly less. It's much harder and takes much more time to produce profitable customized bots that can't be linked to other accounts. They are an issue for another day. Our concern right now is the hundreds of bots that can be linked together taking millions of dollars out of the games.

What percentage of bots do you reckon could be wiped out by using minimal resources and analysis while having 100% accuracy? This included <5k hand samples and the accuracy needs to be extremely high because even a 1% error means tons of players complaining.

If I wasn't 100% certain I'd let the account remain. I'd imagine that would wipe out 99% of the bots.

I think it would be great if we had a running list in this thread.

This is blatantly false. You could wait for 3k hands which would give you a crystal clear 99.99999% certainty by just looking at a handful of stats. Anything more than this would be unneccessary. These bots are playing nearly 3k hands per day, some even more. So if the bot is being allowed to run over 3 days (some have been running since 2016) something is clearly not right with how WPN security is dealing with the situation.

I can supply a list of currently active and formerly active bots.