Did you even bother reading or following the conversation before typing all of that? It would have helped, and you would have realized I was just replying to Phil's interview.

what conversation, what makes you think he is replying to you? sounds like he is referring to joey's claims about the turkish player

You have a point .... but I am online constantly anyway and keep 2+2 open. Between other matters, I open the window.

I'd probably better spend the time just reading for the content I seek out, but never responding ...

That is all true, but so is what I said. There are always technological and other developments that take a while to be accepted. A lot of people aren't ready to go to the store in a autonomous car.

This is even more true with bitcoin, because acceptance isn't the only problem. A large percentage of people don't even know what it is. From there to acceptance is a pretty big jump.

So, those folks deposit in a more traditional manner and are available to be educated.

The gaming use case is pretty good, especially multi-nationally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfhzcF6RcE (excuse the use of the term "bitcoins" as synonymous with blockchain, it was early 2013)

I just got 112$ refund from ACR. I must’ve been getting crushed by bots.

Joey, appreciate what you do man!!

They were nice enough to thank me as well

I got $4.

LOL, that refund is a spit in the face. Like wtf are you gonna do with the extra .0037 of a cent?


It's like all the poker sites are run by mental midgets these days lol.

LOL this can't be real, this is hilarious

Well, that happened.

well I must say it says I am getting over 7k now at about 530pm est,,still no $$$

well vindication is always nice

better not be a slow roll

edit...omg that is not a comma..lol it is a period wtf I got $7.0492.

7 dollars wtf...how the **** do I unsubscribe to this BS spam that just tilts me
get rolled by bot for years at HUSNGs and get 32 bucks total wtf

I am sick of this BS

edit..this is some dumb stuff right here...who the F refunds fractions of cents and slow rolls it like that wow

cant believe I rolled myself by missing that 4 digit impossible number...grrrI amback to my original thought this is spam for log--ins the money is coming so slow it will be filtered back in and all is well in their eyes..this is all bS I called the bots back then and I call BS now

They programmed that refund software hella fast, if only they were that fast at coding other broken/needed things.

4$ few weeks ago 13$ today

Read it as 13k too lol

First time they gave me a list of 7 or 8 that were banned, should I post them ?

I also read it as 1,000s not dollars... I don't see the point in listing fractions of pennies when the account balance/withdrawals don't allow that precision.

Perhaps the absurd fraction is to make it seem more legit......

ROFL I checked that mail in bed this morning and was like wow nice 4.8k refund wtf.

Haven't played on ACR for around 2 years, had to download the software and fund $5 in my account hahaha

@golfbum, no need to post, you can find the full list on their site

I honestly believe this was done on purpose..at first I thought wow I am just n idiot..while this is true I think this may have been done on purpose look how many thought they had X amount..and logged in

I don't think they realize how affected players were from this and these pointless refunds are just needling at this point and affecting my day and honestly I would prefer not to be insulted by these fractions of cents bS refunds

Refunds are pointless bc they are from years ago ? I haven’t acr to much recently

So If someone was using a bot and won a million, probably cashed it out long ago, now they find out it’s a bot 5 years later seize the 1k left in the account and disrupute it ?

It’s probably some stupid decimal now bc all players are splitting only a % of what’s left

I believe they are capping the payouts to $25,000 per banned account. Players effected by that account then get a percentage of that $25,000 max based on how they were effected.

When Phil mentioned that arbitrary cap on the podcast I found it very confusing. Phil knows absolutely nothing about how to police such a thing so he refers to the gaming commission. The literature they have must be archaic so he starts challenging Joey "you show me where the commission says how betting should be handled."

Then it hit me

ACR is white nighting saying "hey look at all these accounts we banned and all this money we are refunding, aren't we great???!!!"

The only problem is their detection methods seem to be the ones detecting the worst/broken bots (and let's face it, they're just looking at lists of suspected bots that are provided to them), and they dont have any interest in actually figuring out who is owed what. As Phil asked Joey, you tell me where it says how much we have to refund? He seems to think this number is obviously zero and set this 25k cap per account again to be like "hey look at me I dont have to refund anything and I'm refunding 25k per bot I find! Gee I hope theres not thousands of bots because 25k times thousands is a lot!"

Come on Phil you're a CEO, part of the job is you have to solve problems you might know nothing about. Joey is very sorry he hurt your feelings, fire the 24/7 security and hire someone with a clue.

Well during that podcast Phil did say they were contacting players that were suspected of being bots, so I don't think it is exactly how you are describing it. As far as the amount of refund, he was pretty up front and saying the company had to put a limit on the refund because A. they don't know what their liability will be at the end IE, they dont know how many bots are out there and B. They don't currently have the cash flow to pay out everything.

While I understand the "you have to start somewhere" idea, prudent business decisions are typically not ones that have a potential to bankrupt the company. One would think the appropriate answer would be to focus on identifying active bots and seizing funds before they are able to get the money off.

$25k payout means that the botters have stolen more than that. There are some other bots that only paid about $2500 total.