Quote:
Originally Posted by straightflushin
Lol internet tough talk.
While there has always been some semi intentional scamming going on by people running bad / living beyond their means / having strings of losing months / that went completely busto, I think he's the first poker player in thailand that turned into a serious criminal with apparently local criminal accomplices.
Your average grinder is in thailand to have fun under the sun and not out to make friends with thai criminals that can make "something happen to him".
Hmm...I never said I'd do it or even that it's the right thing to do, I just said it wouldn't be hard and I stand by that.
First of all there's no evidence or even close to it that he's tied to the Thai criminal underworld.
The locals he's tied with are most likely other French Canadians, as he mentions in his PM to that guy.
This is a really poor country we're talking about, you can pay a huge % of the population very little money to do a lot of stuff, that's just a fact (not saying it's great, we're just talking facts).
I've sold debt once before. What's funny is that before the guy failed to pay me back, I had all those thoughts of "man, if this mother****er doesn't pay me back, I'll....(insert random scene from Casino)", but in reality it took me 3 months to actually muster the courage to do it.
In the end, it was incredibly simple and painless. I found a friend of a friend of a friend who after hearing the whole story, including scammer's description, etc...said he'd be happy to do it. He wasn't a "pro" collector or anything, just a pretty tough guy who knew he could make the guy I'd described pay up a very high % of the time.
He told me the guy coughed up the money almost instantly, pretty much shaking and profusely apologizing throughout the entire process.
No one was hurt and that was it.
I could've probably gotten my own money back, but I hate confrontations and I don't look very dangerous at all, so his reaction might've been very different.
Also if it'd turned out nasty, I didn't want to go to jail for something like that.
Bottomline is, it's really not hard at all to find someone who'll do that kind of stuff in the US, there's a lot of semi-broke tough guys who'll be happy to take a shot at making a teenage geek cough up scammed money, so in Thailand I have to assume it'd be easier than getting Pad Thai.
When I said "before something happens to him", I meant "if" something happens to him.
I wasn't talking about paying someone to bump him off, I guess i should've made that clearer, I was talking about selling debt for however much you think you've been scammed.
You just don't want to be around in case something does happen to him, but I'd expect that to be very unlikely.
I don't have any experience with that stuff besides that one time, but I doubt most scammers, especially in the online poker world, are going to try to mess around with the average debt collector.
EDIT: Obviously a lot of unforseen bad stuff can happen (you get scammed/threatened yourself by some serious Thai gangster, etc...) and again, I'm not saying it's a great idea, which is why I said "IF it's a lot money AND you're into revenge big time", then yeah...it's definitely doable for sure, and pretty easily.
Quote:
Originally Posted by straightflushin
I'm not sure if the police in his home country cares about all of this, but it might be another angle.
And yeah, that's definitely worth looking into.